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Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 04:33:31 UTC No. 16084175
Is this for real? Do they really get vaccine approvals by poisoning the control group in order to make the vaccine seem no less dangerous than the placebo?
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:01:05 UTC No. 16084197
>>16084175
Wait until you hear about the AZT trials.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:16:11 UTC No. 16084220
>>16084175
Although Notyour28981739 appears to be highly trustworthy at first glance, we must always take caution. Initially, his capitalisation of INCREASED and ILLUSION had me convinced it is indeed real. It's a tough call. I would recommend asking anonymous people on the science board of 4chan to certify its accuracy
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:47:11 UTC No. 16084251
>>16084220
LMAO, academia's credibility is death. They don't even know what is a woman.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:49:18 UTC No. 16084252
>>16084220
LMAO, academia's credibility is dead. They don't even know what is a woman.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:51:21 UTC No. 16084254
>>16084252
is academia politically pressured into saying or not saying shit?
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:58:04 UTC No. 16084263
>>16084220
He's a quite experienced antivaxxer. Not like the /pol/ retards who became antivaxx in 2021.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:01:17 UTC No. 16084266
>>16084263
He's not just an expert on vaccines but also economics. The super inflation of 3.15% is so bad that we need to abandon democracy. Says Notyour28981739 at least.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:03:10 UTC No. 16084271
>>16084263
So you're saying /pol/ changed their stance on vaccines at the same time as Oxford dictionary? What changed?
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:04:30 UTC No. 16084273
>>16084271
Honestly, I never paid too much attention to /pol/, but at least on /sci/, vaccines were never an issue in 2019. Notyour28981739 is an OG antivaxxer
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:07:16 UTC No. 16084276
>>16084175
ah, the trusty twitter medical advice.
>same toxic slurry
seems legit.
i'm sure this isn't biased at all.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:12:37 UTC No. 16084283
>>16084254
My nuts are pressured into your moms ovaries
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 07:04:59 UTC No. 16084360
>>16084263
Hmm, a professional antivaxxer. Interesting. I wonder if he's open to franchising his business model
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 07:11:41 UTC No. 16084371
>>16084360
It would actually be quite funny to DM him and offer him money if he shills some food supplements.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 07:35:58 UTC No. 16084404
>>16084175
placebos somehow cure cancer.
people actually believe its just water lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 07:36:22 UTC No. 16084405
I was a volunteer on the phase III trial for the Valneva vaccine against Covid-19 and this is exactly what they did.
The Valneva vaccine was a "traditional" vaccine IE an injection of deactivated / denatured virus, not an mRNA or viral vector.
However, the "control" group on the study received the AstraZeneca vaccine. The rational given was that it would be unethical to give the control group a saline shot and allow them to think, mistakenly, that they had some degree of protection against the virus.
https://valneva.com/press-release/v
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 09:58:16 UTC No. 16084575
>>16084263
/sci/ was massively anti-vax well before anyone ever heard of covid, people have been discussing how they cause autism and contain all sorts of poison for at least a decade
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:05:57 UTC No. 16084589
>>16084575
of course, denouncing vaccines is a great way for damaging a society. there had been a budget for that for like 15 years. i think it will increase significantly with china entering the game. a great time to make a dime.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:04:29 UTC No. 16084686
>>16084266
>>16084263
>>16084175
I immediately dismiss anyone who tells you that vaccines are unsafe and then follows up with vaccines causes autism. Steven Kirsch, a hedgefond baby, is also a proponent of the vaccine-autism theory and his reasoning is so shaddy and easily disproven in regards to many things, not just the specific one here, that it is difficult not to think of it as a psy-op.
Too many of these people are weirdly affiliated with large media groups, politicians or are aggressively pushing alternative medicine (often toxic) shit. Ever figured why the anti-vax movement suddenly became so unconditionally pro-Trump?
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:05:46 UTC No. 16084689
>>16084686
>Ever figured why the anti-vax movement suddenly became so unconditionally pro-Trump?
By that, I mean controlled opposition. Doesn't help that the whole vaccine controversy we had during Obama seems like a big runner up to the Covid-19 lockdown.
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:09:48 UTC No. 16084694
Vaccciggggggnnnhhhhhh
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:12:07 UTC No. 16084697
>>16084405
Based scientific scam.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:13:33 UTC No. 16084698
>>16084175
>Do they really get vaccine approvals by poisoning the control group in order to make the vaccine seem no less dangerous than the placebo?
No, they do two separate trials. One is comparing the vaccine with another solution of identical quality except for the pathogen. Then they also compare the vaccine solution to a simple saline solution. Pharma does shitty trials and lies but that guy isn't truthful either.
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:17:43 UTC No. 16084701
They're just trying to kill off some of the population, and I'm all for it because you waste the clothes of good by being half witted half submissive sub-good people, while I'm here making the ultimate intellectual sacrifice, your false support weakens me. Good. Take the goyshot.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:24:32 UTC No. 16084704
>>16084273
many such cases of narcolepsy from that bird or swine or whatever flu vax sure have been a topic here
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:34:33 UTC No. 16084708
>>16084704
Fuggin faggats.
Get the fucking shot. Now.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:28:36 UTC No. 16084748
>>16084266
>3.15
It's over 20% since the Biden regime was installed.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:00:14 UTC No. 16084779
>>16084175
I got vaxxed thrice cause my dad has a heart condition and i didn't want to kill him.
How fucked am i?
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:03:26 UTC No. 16084780
>>16084779
Shut up fag you never took the vax', otherwise you'd die.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:05:35 UTC No. 16084782
>>16084780
I took two doses and a booster at age 15. Astra Zeneca i'm pretty sure.
Idk if the quality varied worldwide but i'm a European(not a russian)
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:08:16 UTC No. 16084785
>>16084782
Underaged b&
COVID has been around for 2 years
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:14:04 UTC No. 16084787
>>16084220
"This method, which he later formulated in Discourse on Method (1637) and Rules for the Direction of the Mind (written by 1628 but not published until 1701), consists of four rules: (1) accept nothing as true that is not self-evident, (2) divide problems into their simplest parts, (3) solve problems by proceeding from simple to complex, and (4) recheck the reasoning. These rules are a direct application of mathematical procedures. In addition, Descartes insisted that all key notions and the limits of each problem must be clearly defined"
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:14:32 UTC No. 16084788
>>16084785
>COVID has been around for 2 years
That's not true
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:44:18 UTC No. 16084815
>>16084748
Sauce?
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:44:58 UTC No. 16084816
>>16084815
-Here's your homo sauce sir, as you ordered-
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:47:30 UTC No. 16084819
>>16084787
>question everything and solve methodically
Based Descartes
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:11:27 UTC No. 16084840
>>16084815
Going outside.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:13:58 UTC No. 16084842
>>16084175
Kill all of them.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:17:19 UTC No. 16084847
>>16084815
You want my sauce? I can give you some of my sauce.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:51:55 UTC No. 16085031
>>16084686
bro these people are professional well poisoners
>start group discussing weird science theories
>it gets flooded by flat earthers
>everyone who is smart leaves because they cringe
literally this pattern
do it for everything and anything
>darwinian evolution is entirely right (still taught in schools though)
>oh this must be the "young earth creationist" place
>start talking about how the earth is like 6000 years old
>everyone leaves
>darwinism remains dominant
see
happens time and time again
you don't defeat an idea
you poison the well from which it sprang
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:08:01 UTC No. 16085052
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:25:13 UTC No. 16086005
>>16084273
there was tons of vaccine content on this board since the beginning, you're a newfag and you weren't here, thats why you don't remember it
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10468
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:07:18 UTC No. 16086033
>>16086005
One schizo is not a board of schizos.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:31:02 UTC No. 16086043
>>16086033
>I hate /sci/, this board triggers me massively
So go somewhere else, then you won't have to be upset all the time. Problem solved, good bye
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:19:09 UTC No. 16086463
>>16086043
>then you won't have to be upset all the time
t. still kvetching about vaccines after being debunked like 4 years straight
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:32:46 UTC No. 16086927
>>16084254
yes
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:10:00 UTC No. 16087731
>>16084254
the get all their money from politicians, so they'll always say only what they presume what the politicians want even if they're not told to
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:45:33 UTC No. 16087826
>>16084263
Dude I was anti SARS vaxx before they even announced the mRNA mystery shots.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:44:53 UTC No. 16087888
>>16084175
not quite. they administered to vax to control group after deciding NOT doing so would be tantamount to harm without having concluded the study. it just so happens to thwart any future attempts to assign guilt or elucidate cause and effect as a result of treatment. i think this was a trial in latin america - argentina maybe?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:06:07 UTC No. 16088232
>>16084779
Congrats now you both die
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:45:33 UTC No. 16088835
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:43:08 UTC No. 16089479
>>16084175
I just wonder if control groups for schizopills gets more gaslighted.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 22:16:38 UTC No. 16090129
>>16087731
Thats how science works when its government funded because scientists too dumb to be able to earn a living in the private sector
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 22 Mar 2024 23:21:40 UTC No. 16091874
>>16087731
So scientists aren't really researchers, they're political propagandists on the government payroll
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Mar 2024 01:39:03 UTC No. 16092031
>>16084175
Yes. They test vaccines against either another vaccine or adjuvant alone, then call it a placebo group. When pressed on this they say it would be unethical to do otherwise.
pic related in every vaccine insert
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 23 Mar 2024 21:48:10 UTC No. 16093242
>>16091874
pretty much
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 24 Mar 2024 22:05:05 UTC No. 16094946
>>16090129
scientists are low iq incompetent people who nobody wants around
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Mar 2024 00:05:31 UTC No. 16095172
>>16094946
Which makes them malleable prey. Easy to dominate. Maim, separate, and soothe cycle.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 00:23:09 UTC No. 16096920
>>16095172
it also means we'd be better off without them
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 00:29:01 UTC No. 16096926
>>16084175
You can say literally anything without proof.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:10:31 UTC No. 16096993
>>16096920
So long as they aren't under the control of "pneumatics", or philosopher kings, then yes. They're a tunnel vision prone amoral threat to everything around them. Even so their manufacture would be limited in a just world.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:12:27 UTC No. 16096996
>>16084197
SHUT IT DOWN!!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvRo
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:19:04 UTC No. 16097010
>>16084175
100% real, only morons get vaccinated.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:19:42 UTC No. 16097012
>>16097010
Morons or naive literal infants and children you mean.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:23:30 UTC No. 16097015
>>16084254
If you can read a scientific paper is obvious what is woke crap and what has value. Things will get harder than ever for midwits since they can't even rely in instincts honed by natural selection like dimwits can do.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:24:42 UTC No. 16097016
>>16097012
Fuck off you idiot, you are not welcomed here.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 01:38:28 UTC No. 16097032
>>16097016
This is the part where I call you a ginger or something. Anagram for nigger btw.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 02:31:59 UTC No. 16097085
>>16084175
what is a toxic slurry? is that a term?
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 02:33:45 UTC No. 16097086
>>16087731
this, but also as an academic 95% of your colleagues are libshits and it's really not worth it to rock the boat
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:31:46 UTC No. 16097396
>>16097086
Have you ever wondered why everything about everything is so unbelieveably horrible on every level?
Anonymous at Wed, 27 Mar 2024 03:26:15 UTC No. 16098746
>>16086043
really would be nice if the election tourists from reddit would finally go back home
Anonymous at Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:17:08 UTC No. 16099334
>>16084263
for some strange reason "antivax" was coined in 2019 and started trending massively so that everyone hated them by the time 2020 started
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 27 Mar 2024 23:38:26 UTC No. 16100212
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:02:33 UTC No. 16101927
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:13:20 UTC No. 16101953
>>16084175
>>16084197
>>16084220
>>16084252
>>16084254
Man if only these vaccine papers were public, we could double check this. But I guess arguing about it on 4chan is just as good.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:42:04 UTC No. 16102556
>>16084266
>still living in the US in current year
Embarrassing. 100 elections wont save that shit hole
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:50:46 UTC No. 16102564
>people are still telling themselves the covid restrictions and vaccine weren't hideous failures
I'm going to be getting laughs for the rest of my life
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:31:50 UTC No. 16103047
>>16102564
once the vaxxies all drop dead you'll be happy with the results of the psyop
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:42:43 UTC No. 16105519
>>16104073
what'd i miss
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:05:46 UTC No. 16106681
>>16105519
You missed a post extolling the virtues of future mass die offs of those who were shortsighted enough to volunteer to take the untested experimental covid vaccine
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:58:41 UTC No. 16106772
>>16106681
>the untested experimental covid vaccine
Anyone repeating this phrase is a shill / bot / useful idiot. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 05:59:09 UTC No. 16107420
>>16106772
why does that phrase trigger you? are you a vaxxie with regrets over your own shortsighted, low IQ decision making?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 08:05:31 UTC No. 16107499
>>16084175
It's true.
Another trick is exclusion criteria. Candidates in the intervention arm are excluded mid-trial if they develop any of a list of pre-selected (post-selected) criteria.
To make up for it, the same number of random participants in the placebo arm are also excluded.
This was (in)famously used to hide the literal deaths in the first two sets of efficacy trials for Pfizer and AZ covid jabs.
No-one batted an eyelid because according to the rules of "le science" they can exclude any safety signal - Because they never did safety trials. They were only efficacy trials (Efficacy signal being antibody response, not efficacy against infection).
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 08:43:51 UTC No. 16107511
>>16084254
its politically pressured to obfuscate everything and make you stupid
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 01:59:32 UTC No. 16108679
>>16107420
I didn't get jabbed and haven't interacted with the medical-industrial complex for over 10 years. That means I'm probably at least 10 years ahead of you on how they run these shows. Keep that possibility in mind.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 18:31:31 UTC No. 16109522
>>16107499
>we pick the experimental results that will bring us the biggest profits
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 18:42:34 UTC No. 16109541
Its different for every trial, but generally yeah, placebo doesn't always mean placebo. A lot of the time it is the drug just abscent the active pharmaceutical ingrediant.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 18:43:51 UTC No. 16109544
We won't know for the Covid trials within our lifetime. All the trial data is sealed.