🧵 where is my microscopic vertebrates??
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 07:12:18 UTC No. 16084372
why insects and spiders went fully microscopic (1/3 millimeter in size) but no vertabrates did?
is there a set limit in vertebrate genes that doesnt allow microscopic size?
smallest bird? still at least the size of a bumblebee
smallest lizard? about as big as a coin
smallest fish larva? some millimeters but you can see them without a microscope
turns out even the closest invertebrate relativs of vertebrates (acorn worm) are huge creatures measured in centimeters instead of millimeters
not even urochordates are microscopic eventhough their body suggest they should survive in that fashion
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 08:36:47 UTC No. 16084485
>>16084372
Say no more.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:43:00 UTC No. 16084883
>>16084874
okay I guess thats roughly comparable to dust mite sizes
has there a concensus been found that these things truly represent vertebrates?
Barkon at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:45:51 UTC No. 16084885
I'm trying to do with:
My Pineal Gland(ag: petty imagination).
By focusing it's location or the gland at the back, and producing petty imagination procedurally using a complex lane.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:19:36 UTC No. 16084932
>>16084883
That's not a vertebrate. That's a chordate. It has notochord, it has a spine which ends in a tail, it's cephalized, it has pharingeal slits. That's basically an embryo. It's as far as we can go about the general plan of chordates. Vertebrates and the like are mutated chordates. The smallest proper vertebrate is apparently some ant sized frog from new guinea. I have cent-sized frogs in my garden. The spawn of such animals may be just what you want.
The thing is, for such delicate kind of animal, you need a very stable environment from the very few specializations they have, i.e. you are only likely to find them at sea where the water has constant osmolarity, or maybe you can find them in a swamp of brackish water. Or you could find them in the stomach of some animal, though that shouldn't be possible since vertebrates don't have encapsulated stages that I know of.
Maybe a water bird eats the adults of a microscopic frog, that lays a shitton of eggs in its mouth, they spawn and get passed on to the next pond next time the bird feeds, i don't know.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:22:34 UTC No. 16084936
>>16084932
Also, I hadn't imagined before but what if there are animals living in the nasal sinuses of birds? I guess that's why we have snot in the first place, but such a thing could be possible. And such an animal could be very easy to extinct.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:22:34 UTC No. 16084937
>>16084932
so let me get this straight: its just easier for a arthropod to be at microscopic sizes than for a vertebrate
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:23:40 UTC No. 16084939
>>16084936
bot fly larvae (insect) lives in mammal noses but only for some weeks and then turns into adult fly which is not parasitic, only larva is
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:29:50 UTC No. 16084948
>>16084937
Yes. The arthropod specialized far, far long ago. The chitin that encapsulates him separates him from the environment and allows him to grow within himself.
Think of people that travel in spaceships. The spaceships are their shells, they can thrive on the most harsh of environments which is deep space by forming a barrier between their interior and the environment itself. A lot of breakthroughs of life has had to do with this, be it the creation of the prokariont, the inclusion of organelles (which happened many different times), the formation of chitin, the development of the uterus.