🧵 Neuro hacking general?
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:28:15 UTC No. 16087169
In this thread i hope to learn about things such as neuroplasticity, classical and operant conditioning, and general hacking of brains.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:35:12 UTC No. 16087178
I mostly absorb information best through memes and infographics. Pic related: how can you use the hemispheres to split the brain? I'm not smart like you guys so i need some experiment
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:36:16 UTC No. 16087180
>>16087174
>The human brain is transhumanist
Ok retard.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 23:57:15 UTC No. 16087296
>>16087289
making the idea popular opens the door for really uncomfortable questions anon.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:39:12 UTC No. 16087350
>>16087296
I'm already uncomfortable
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:00:08 UTC No. 16087382
>>16087174
>>16087180
He been posting "tranny thread" with his same decade old fake screenshot in any thread to do with improving the human body for like over a year now. He's completely obsessed with trannys and it's all he talks about. For some reason he thinks making your brain better, even using natural methods, is bad, but doing fitness to make your body better is totally fine. He's just another totally brain damaged /sci/ spammer like all the other spammers
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:04:58 UTC No. 16087388
>>16087169
>"At least I'm safe inside my mind"
I guess those days are over. And this is the standard experience for at least half of humanity, as it happened at the peak of our population spike. Wonder why!
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:05:59 UTC No. 16087394
>>16087178
Picture is completely wrong. The master isn't external reality. The master is the internal consciousness. Everything else is abstract information that cannot be verified. That includes the physicality of everything, including the body, the brain, even the stuff like the distances, the notion of motion, the understanding of causality, time, etc.
Master controller is the consciousness, everything else is ficticious derivative.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:46:39 UTC No. 16087458
>>16087169
getting plenty of sleep helps improve memory because the brain uses sleep time to dump excess molecules that would otherwise interfere with your neurons. it does this by coordinating neurons to fire in rhythms, causing a flux in the fluid that surrounds cells. the flux moves the molecules towards the lymphatic system which acts like the garbage system of the body.
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/neu
boring i know, but you can always choose to not sleep and get early dementia instead?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:52:01 UTC No. 16087466
>>16087394
>I don't understand permanence
you should have no issues with giving me 1 million bucks then. when can I expect them moneys? you can always will them into existence back in your account.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 04:05:12 UTC No. 16087564
>>16087289
But Dave Ramsey said I need to live in a cardboard box and tip my landlord, work three jobs, and survive off rice and beans and then give all of my money to the credit card companies? Are you telling me I am getting brain damage? This must be atheist propaganda.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 04:13:21 UTC No. 16087571
>>16087564
someone had to work anon. still has for a while
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:24:17 UTC No. 16087619
>>16087458
>boring
You gotta catch more Zs nigga. This means it could be possible via brainwave entrainment to expedite this flux driven flushing to optimize brain function and reduce sleep time
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:22:21 UTC No. 16087702
>>16087466
I can give you a paper with 1 billion written on it. Should be same right? Or do you think some special soul of a money is trapped inside another piece of paper with a number written on it?
Its all ficticious mental constructs
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:32:48 UTC No. 16087709
>>16087702
nah you can't really give me 1 million dollars in paper money. know why? because you don't have any, and can't get any.
money would be worthless if you could just draw 1 billion dollars on a piece of paper. god fucking damn it what do they teach you in school over there?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:22:01 UTC No. 16087743
>>16087709
I can do it. My consciousness is strong enough to will 1 million dollars into existence right now. You'll need to pay me for my services though. I think a fair price for my service would be 1 million dollars. I'll start working on it after I've been paid. Also still doesn't invalidate that our experience of reality lies fully in our brains. I can hear schizo voices and connect to my subconscious. Doesn't make them real but you can't distinguish that from reality either. We could all be experiencing the same mass psychosis.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:26:32 UTC No. 16087746
>>16087743
>We could all be experiencing the same mass psychosis.
sure but what I'm trying to tell you is that even if we are, you still can't afford to just give me 1 million dollars. which is the part that really matters.
>You'll need to pay me for my services though.
glad you finally figured out what money is used for.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:53:41 UTC No. 16087772
>>16087169
All erotic novels are written by autistic housewives of teenage girls
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:30:05 UTC No. 16087809
>>16087746
>glad you finally figured out what money is used for.
money is just what we believe to be money though so it's much more of a collectively willed existence. You realise I was only making a joke with my post, right? You claim you can't will 1M dollars into existence but if you thought about it a little more you'd realise that money is willed into existence through collective will deciding that money exists in this and that format and must have this or that value. My conscious will alone can't beat such a huge collective will. Do you not see this?
>you still can't afford to just give me 1 million dollars. which is the part that really matters.
That's because the collective will determined how this 1M can be brought into existence. It's created the rules that apply to this kind of magic. Only central banks can dabble in that collective will and thus in that type of magic.
Reality is dependent on faith in reality.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:37:32 UTC No. 16087820
>>16087809
the million dollars is the rate exchange for what you contribute with for the collective, which uses those moneys. if you had a skill that was worth 1 million dollars. money represent what you can do for others, that they need, and you can offer. depending how good you are at that, they are willing to pay you this money, that you can then use in the same group of people to get shit you need from them. a car, your cock sucked, food.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:44:52 UTC No. 16087825
>>16087289
Wait, does he imply living in the pod and owning nothing is bad for the brain?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:52:16 UTC No. 16087832
>>16087820
Yeah tell that to a certain group of bankers who don't do shit and got where they are through nepotism. Meritocracy is meant for the middle class masses bro. Again it's all faith based. People believe a central banker is better than they are and is deserving of earning his high pay. Both are fictions of the mind.
bodhi at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:09:25 UTC No. 16087857
>>16087169
>Activities linked to IQ increase
Doing difficult math and logic problems (e.g. Springer Graduate Texts)
Orbitofrontal D1-D2 stimulation (apparently very potent)
Learning a new language (the more it differs from your mother tongue, the better)
Nucleus Basalis stimulation
Learn to play an instrument
Some (!) meditation techniques
Neurofeedback training (specifically Dual-N-Back)
Intermittent fasting
transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS)
some memory activities/games
Continued education
lucid dreaming
some binaural beats
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:30:20 UTC No. 16087872
>>16087832
I'll take a wild guess and say you're thinking that because you don't really have a skill that is useful for the group, enough to pay you that, so then you found a way to cope with it "money is shit anyway it's not even real lmao". that's taking a piss on the group's needs and on your ability to do anything useful for the group. that it needs.
one thing to notice there's shit people abusing the system, other to completely dismiss what it represents.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:11:39 UTC No. 16087908
>>16087872
That is a wild guess nigger. I'm an engineer with enough skills to get by multiple industries. I don't need to cope. You ignoring that money and most concepts are not real but created by collective faith is, this is my wild guess, because you're coping with the fact that faith precedes reality and your little atheist mind can't accept that. Shoo now you robot, you've chosen to not have faith so you don't get free will. You're just a little robot. Again just a wiiilldd guess.
If it'd were a real representation then you wouldn't be able to abuse it. It's collectively imagined. That's why you can abuse it.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:39:45 UTC No. 16088825
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:44:02 UTC No. 16088832
>>16087169
https://twitter.com/neuralink/statu
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:51:18 UTC No. 16088842
>>16087908
>Shoo now you robot, you've chosen to not have faith so you don't get free will.
you sound like such a piece of shit that I'd stay away from whatever the your beliefs are. don't seem to do any good, they make you retarded as fuck. and a massive piece of shit on top of it
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:01:44 UTC No. 16089183
>>16088842
hahahhahaha I'd knew you'd get mad little robot you know I'm right that's why you're afraid of my ideas
I earn more than you, and society thinks I'm useful.
Atheists always get super upset when confronted with the reality that they cannot argue for free will. But I can.
But I'm not a hateful person. In fact I only pissed you off to help you. You know I'm right. Pray, accept Jesus in your life. Read the bible. Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Matthew, First few chapters of genesis. Have faith and you can go from being a robot to an self actualised human. I've only made you mad to help you see that I'm right. I'm not dunking on you. I love you as my fellow human being. But I cannot help those whose ears and eyes are waxed shut. Open your eyes, and ears, and heart. You don't know me, and you'll never do. Just go into your room and pray and read the bible. No one will judge you for it. I least of all. I care about your soul anon. It's trapped in a body that doesn't accept its existence. What is real cannot be measured.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:15:14 UTC No. 16089192
>>16087743
>Also still doesn't invalidate that our experience of reality lies fully in our brains.
Maybe, but saying reality lies fully in brains does invalidate your earlier claim about consciousness rather than material being the master.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:16:50 UTC No. 16089196
>>16087809
>My conscious will alone can't beat such a huge collective will.
Which means your consciousness is not actually the master. Do you not see this?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:38:45 UTC No. 16089224
>>16089192
>>16089196
Thanks for noticing that.
I should've been more subtle.
I meant to say that your reality exists fully in your mind, but is ultimately determined by what you accept to be real.
If you accept that money is real, which is what we generally do in this society, then you'll naturally go along with the demands of that collective imagination. But you cannot dominate that collective. You've in fact chained yourself to the demands of that collective, to their imposed rules on your reality.
Consciousness is the master, but unless you're going to be an ascetic, you're gonna have to deal with collective imaginations. They're going to impose rules on you and you cannot change them because changing them implies changing the collective. You'll need to obtain certain positions of power/status according to the rules of that collective imagination. Churches are led by a priest. That priest has obtained his position of power by following the rules of the collective and obtaining rule over it. You cannot simply will yourself to be ruler over a collective imagination, there are rules, rituals to be followed. Basically it's a form of magic.
I'd like to ask you, master over what? Your own reality? then yes. You are the master over your own reality. But not someone else's. Not unless they let you. And this comes with rules and rituals. Magic.
Also I hope you don't actually think I can magically create 1M dollars out of nowhere. It was a joke. That's why I wanted to be paid 1M dollars... so I could give it right back to you pretending I'd created 1M dollars.
Does that make sense to you friend?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:41:13 UTC No. 16089225
>>16089183
>that's why you're afraid of my ideas
not afraid of any of your retarded ideas, you'll always default to schizo bullshit which has nothing to do with science.
>I earn more than you
you seem insecure.
>Atheists
am agnostic
>I care about your soul anon
mind your own anon, leave mine alone. not for sale.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:46:06 UTC No. 16089227
>>16089224
>but is ultimately determined by what you accept to be real.
No, no amount of pretending the sun is dark and the moon is bright will make it easier to see at night than at day. Reality is that which doesn't go away just because you don't believe in it.
>Consciousness is the master, but unless you're going to be an ascetic, you're gonna have to deal with collective imaginations.
No, you were once a baby with no real conscious experience who had to have everything done for you, your mind resulted from that process, not the other way around, you didn't just pop into existence fully formed one day.
>changing them implies changing the collective.
Which means the collective is not a construct of your mind, so your consciousness is not the master, to change things you have to behave a certain way and do real physical work.
>That priest has obtained his position of power by following the rules of the collective and obtaining rule over it.
Which again makes the consciousness secondary rather than the driver, the collection of physical bodies is what defines the collective, you have no way of knowing if they all experience the same type of consciousness as you.
>joke
Your worldview is a joke and you were taught everything all wrong just to be laughed at.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:54:57 UTC No. 16089234
>>16089224
>Also I hope you don't actually think I can magically create 1M dollars out of nowhere. It was a joke. That's why I wanted to be paid 1M dollars... so I could give it right back to you pretending I'd created 1M dollars.
>Does that make sense to you friend?
yeah, of-course. I used the example for 1 million dollars because 1 million dollars tend to clear a lot of confusion.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:58:54 UTC No. 16089237
>>16089227
>pretending the sun is dark and the moon is bright will make it easier to see at night than at day.
If you're used to darkness you can see very well. Meanwhile the day will seem too bright. Only a matter of perspective.
>your mind resulted from that process, not the other way around
No it didn't. I didn't say your mind was already developed. You participate in collective imaginations which impose demands on reality, both physically and mentally. And eventually you figured out that they were collective imaginations.
>Which means the collective is not a construct of your mind, so your consciousness is not the master
The master of what exactly?
>the collection of physical bodies is what defines the collective
social media literally invalidates what you're saying. So does the Republic of Letters.
You've got no idea what defines collectives. But you pretend to do. I won't go as far to claim I know all. But you're more wrong than I am.
You're not even open to honest discussion which is why you act like a fag. Fuck off.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:07:06 UTC No. 16089241
>>16089237
>If you're used to darkness you can see very well.
Maybe if you are a nocturnal cat, but seeing in the dark is a generational adaptation that isn't as simple as getting used to wandering around in the dark.
>Meanwhile the day will seem too bright
Yes, like I said it will never be less bright than the moon no matter how much you consciously wish it would be, even during eclipses its still brighter.
>I didn't say your mind was already developed.
You said it is the master rather than it being developed through physical circumstance since physical reality is the driving master.
>The master of what exactly?
Now you have forgotten what the entire conversation was about? So much for your consciousness having any real connection to reality let alone dictating its terms.
>social media literally invalidates what you're saying.
No, social media is literally a collection of bodies of computing devices.
> So does the Republic of Letters.
No, it is literally a body of literature.
>You've got no idea what defines collectives.
Your original claim was that consciousness is the only thing that really exists and everything else is a fictitious derivative, now you have changed and said that your consciousness has to adapt to some external collective, you are the one refuting yourself with your own retarded definitions and claims.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:36:18 UTC No. 16089255
>>16089241
>Your original claim was that consciousness is the only thing that really exists
My original claim was that your consciousness dictates your reality.
I wasn't the original poster who started talking about masters.
>>16087743
this was my original post.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:40:49 UTC No. 16089260
>>16089255
>My original claim was that your consciousness dictates your reality.
Which you then immediately contradicted by saying external collectives of other bodies are too powerful to actually control with your consciousness.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:26:19 UTC No. 16089458
>>16087169
If you want to help you to become more smart, you could try study nootrpics and making a nootropics thread.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:51:35 UTC No. 16089491
>>16089260
>Which you then immediately contradicted by saying external collectives of other bodies are too powerful to actually control with your consciousness.
How is that a contradiction? You can control your reality. Not someone else's.
There was no contradiction in what I said. At most I wasn't subtle enough, but you should've been able to see what I meant.