Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:33:07 UTC No. 16103910

>>16103905
>filename

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:36:58 UTC No. 16103914

>>16103905
This just seems like a lamer version of Descartes ontological argument

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:09:45 UTC No. 16103965

>>16103905
>black and white photo of a guy = good
>i fucking love science

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:32:20 UTC No. 16103993

>>16103905
>1 = god
>1 exists therefore god exists
Bravo, Gödel

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:27:23 UTC No. 16104055

>>16103905
>A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you closer to Him.
I felt this way while studying medical physiology. When you read a bit of it, say on an IFLS article, you think to yourself "wow okay this explains everything, no more of that silly religious mumbo jumbo about intelligent design I was taught as a kid". But the more you read, the more it starts to not make sense again. You start to realise that although we have both observed and postulated a bunch of biochemical processes going on in the body and how they affect our physiology, we have no idea how or what initiates or guides them, or how they occur so perfectly every time. Take these DNA topoisomerases for instance. They're little enzymes that attach themselves to very precise locations on the DNA chain and cause them to unwind from their supercoiled structure. This however, causes kinks to form in the DNA strand (imagine pulling apart a tangled up wire), but the topoisomerase adjusts itself, as if it has a mind of its own, to bind the exact same spot of DNA in a different way, splitting the strands to relax the kinks and allowing continuation of DNA unwinding in preparation for transcription onto mRNA. This is what amazes me and leaves me unable to reconcile in my mind that such a process can occur due to chance alone: out of 20,000 gene loci, and billions of nitrogenous base pairs unwinding can potentially begin at, topoisomerase recognises the exact location of the exact allele needed to code a particular protein, unwinds the DNA by a multi-step biological reaction that doesn't cause any damage to the surrounding DNA units, and continues sliding down the strand unraveling it as it goes, only until the necessary gene has been transcribed, after which it leaves. The slightest irregularity in this function at all and the necessary protein fails to be produced, leading to cell death.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:33:36 UTC No. 16104064

>>16104055
And to top it all off, this whole process is a huge oversimplification of the hundreds of biochemical reactions actually going on, which we may never be able to truly understand owing to their complexity. I feel that the more I study, and the more I will (one day hopefully) research about these processes, the stronger my faith in an intelligent designer will become.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:38:22 UTC No. 16104072

>>16103905
if youre a pure scientist you believe that there an "objective truth" out there somewhere which is basically the same as a religious guy believing god is out there somewhere.

Morphism at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:06:28 UTC No. 16104230

>>16103965
it is nontrivial.

The scientists and mathematicians back in the old world were magnitudes better thinkers than we are today.

Today we are all distracted by entertainment, video games, TV, Tiktok, hedonism, materialism, ect.

Back then, they had time to think.
They had time to study.

And they were damn good at it.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:44:53 UTC No. 16104262

I can't bump this thread up enough. Why is this profound and timeless discussion being sidelined in favour of endless threads of popular science and le seggs

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:47:52 UTC No. 16104267

>>16104055
>>16104064
but I dug up dinosaur rocks in the ground and hated my religious parents

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:55:05 UTC No. 16104273

>>16104055
> The slightest irregularity in this function at all and the necessary protein fails to be produced, leading to cell death.
Oh, you mean the slightest irregularities which happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME which is why there are so many genetic diseases?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:59:09 UTC No. 16104276

>>16104273
Genetic diseases are due to mutations in DNA, which can be both hereditary and environmental. The protein synthesis pathway doesn't have anything to do with them.