🧵 Untitled Thread
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:59:27 UTC No. 16103943
Why does it take so long to build a bridge these days?
Were engineers of the past more capable than modern ones are even though they didn't even have computers to do all their calculations for them?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:02:00 UTC No. 16103948
Safety standards are higher. Sure china builds fast but their infrastructure is failure prone.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:07:38 UTC No. 16103957
DEI, ESG, JEW, and the unions.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:08:35 UTC No. 16103961
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:09:25 UTC No. 16103963
>>16103943
And if China built it in a couple months, it wouldn't even take a barge to destroy it
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:33:22 UTC No. 16103994
>>16103943
If China built it, it would be built in a month and collapse in a week.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:45:37 UTC No. 16104508
>>16103943
>Were engineers of the past more capable than modern ones are?
Yes
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:49:21 UTC No. 16104515
>>16103943
Everybody has to take a cut from the bags, standards are higher, etc.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:27:11 UTC No. 16104622
>>16103994
>If China built it, it would be built in a month and collapse in a week.
The fact tha cities like Shanghai or Beijing exist, which are gargantuan megacities, should be evidence that this is nonsense.
No one with a brain can hear about tofu-dreg construction while also observing that chinese megacities exist and do not self-destruct in a breeze.
The videos you have seen of tofu-dreg are about a dozen cases in a country with millions of construction projects.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:32:54 UTC No. 16104625
How many years of planning were there before those 13 months took place?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:52:39 UTC No. 16104991
>>16103994
US has more bridge collapses than China by a factor of 10.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:56:07 UTC No. 16104997
>>16104991
per number of bridges?
how many bridges are in the US vs china?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:19:59 UTC No. 16105040
>>16103943
meanwhile in chinkland.
if those boomer faggots didn't cripple engineer salary and compensation for profits and gave power to the MBA class to maximize "shareholders value", things could've gotten 10 times better.
fuck boomers, they don't deserve anything.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:30:57 UTC No. 16105053
>>16104622
the retards who still believe in such nonsenses never stepped outside of the US in their entire 30 years of life.
I've been to China and some of the infrastructures at big cities like Shanghai are more modern and better than the tranny shit in North America here.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:11:57 UTC No. 16105297
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:16:35 UTC No. 16105304
>>16105053
tranny infrastructure lol
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:19:24 UTC No. 16105310
>>16105304
>tranny infrastructure
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:21:04 UTC No. 16105315
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:45:57 UTC No. 16105832
>>16104622
>>16105053
Due to >>16103961
Again, they clamp, vaccinate, circumcise, halogenate, irradiate, drug, brainwash with the media from early childhood, the education and general social sense is mediocre, and so on. All due to the items noted in the image I posted. It's very simple. I have pointed this out over and over for the last 10 years and people still fight me on it. Now everything is so trashed that they've mainly devolved into this or that rabbit hole, and are generally in a shut-down haze of forced disillusionment.
The US is pretty mediocre. It was designed to be a transformative hub and then fall apart, that's about it. It was never supposed to last.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:20:19 UTC No. 16105875
>>16105832
Silence, Garrett
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:23:17 UTC No. 16105878
>>16105875
Silence, Moderator.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:36:18 UTC No. 16105889
>>16103943
govt. bureacracy. I briefly worked for a DOT in IT; it took me a month to install a piece of software. Just for fun I did it at home in a day.
>>16103948
while thats true, and a lot of it is good stuff, its still 10% safety 90% bullshit.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:37:49 UTC No. 16105891
>>16105040
Nerds used to run tech and it was a golden age. Now its a golden age of profit.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:53:21 UTC No. 16105904
>>16105891
In the show Gilligan's Island everyone always listened to the Professor because he was correct 95% of the time. If that show was rebooted today they'd have everyone listening to Mr. Howell, ignoring the Professor, and everyone would be dead in a few days.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:00:17 UTC No. 16105910
>>16105040
imagine if the U.S. had any real leadership and we transformed Amtrak into this bullet train dream.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:19:45 UTC No. 16105920
>>16103943
Featherbedding and goldbricking by construction unions to draw out projects for as long as possible
Land use regulations and environmental impact studies take years
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:26:38 UTC No. 16105923
>>16105920
Which is all due to an inability to effectively mobilize and allocate human resources, and the production of people with these lazy and defective "milk it" mentalities. When your nation is "maim and drain" that's what you're going to get, top to bottom.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 06:59:09 UTC No. 16105968
>>16105904
No, they'd scream at Mr. Howell non-stop for being the great grandson of an oppressor, which makes his wealth illegitimate and him an oppressor who must make reparations by being the group's slave. On matters of science, they'd seek the advice of the primitive tribe on the other side of the island, whose solutions the Professor would agree are correct and valid despite not actually working.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:57:48 UTC No. 16106100
>>16105118
>only a small section collapsed
Wtf? Why didn't the whole bridge collapse like what happened in Baltimore?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 11:04:53 UTC No. 16106108
>>16106100
Scripted eclipse ritual.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 13:17:22 UTC No. 16106267
>>16103943
Okay? The original bridge also took five years to build though, and construction was started two years after bidding on the project opened, and that was a few years after the decision to build it was made. Add in the fact that they have to remove the remains of the old bridge. So "up to ten years" seems like a realistic estimate.
Also, you could've laid almost six Empire State Buildings along the length of the bridge.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 13:21:59 UTC No. 16106273
>>16106267
I further imagine that building something in the water brings its own challenges which may add considerably to the time required.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 13:27:03 UTC No. 16106281
>>16106267
>>16106273
Also, five people died in the construction of the Empire State Building.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 17:13:06 UTC No. 16106477
>>16106100
They're sacrificing real bridges to cast a spell for the success of the Bridge 2.0 DEI initiative.
DEI departments are being dismantled because they are going to build the globohomo religion into business practices at all levels. Meaning, basically, you will have to prove you believe in the new religion in order to get employed at all; and service to the ideology will be part of what it means to be a "good [insert profession]".
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 17:16:06 UTC No. 16106483
>>16105889
The bullshit is the safety. If everyone built bridges in a day there'd be a lot more falling.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 00:19:42 UTC No. 16107063
>>16106273
right, because most bridges aren't built to cross bodies of water
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 02:05:22 UTC No. 16107185
>>16103943
It's baltimore. Everyone will want paid off. It will take 20 years. No one wants it built besides the trash
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 02:51:16 UTC No. 16107216
>>16103948
>>16103963
>US builds 10 infrastructure projects in 10 years of which 1 fails due to a diversity hire
>China builds 10,000 infrastructure projects in 10 years of which 100 fail due to tofu dreg, half of which are quickly fixed because the average IQ of their maintainers is nowadays 10 points higher
Worth it. You can’t make an omelette without cracking some eggs.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 02:59:12 UTC No. 16107227
>>16107216
For funs, also Europe:
>Germany builds 1 giant infrastructure project in 10 years, which should have just taken 1 year but it got delayed. It runa flawlessly for 5 years but is then shut down because it’s not green
>Switzerland builds 10 infrastructure projects all ahead of schedule and under project
>France builds -1 on infrastructure project in 10 years because they all got torched by some mass protests
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:00:55 UTC No. 16107229
>>16107216
For funs, also Europe:
>Germany builds 1 giant infrastructure project in 10 years, which should have just taken 1 year but it got delayed. It runs flawlessly for 5 years but is then shut down because it’s not green
>Switzerland builds 10 infrastructure projects all ahead of schedule and under budget
>France builds -1 on infrastructure project in 10 years because they all got torched by some mass protests
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:10:18 UTC No. 16107234
>>16107229
Switzerland literally uses African slave labor, though.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:14:52 UTC No. 16107240
>>16103948
Nope. Its just grifters holding the office that delay everything for the sake of justifying their existence.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:16:29 UTC No. 16107242
>>16106100
Old bridges in US lack modern engineering standards that China has been building over the last few decades.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 05:18:48 UTC No. 16107390
>>16106477
retard
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 05:40:11 UTC No. 16107401
>>16107390
He's correct. World events are astrological and numerological rituals.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 05:47:19 UTC No. 16107407
>>16103948
>>16103963
>>16103994
Cope. China has better infrastructure and engineers and had less rail accidents in the past 15 years than the US. Shortcuts and shitty designs are a criminal offense there, unlike America. China has better infrastructure and you're just repeating agitprop for imaginary reasons why the US is so great. It isn't. This country sucks if you make less than $200k a year, and even if you make 200k a year or more, and that's assuming you're in a low cost of living area, it's still nothing if you started from nothing. I bet you're a nobody making $50k a year or less and need some made up reasons to feel patriotic. Wow heckin safety for ten years building the George Floyd Memorial Bridge, upvoted! Potholes everywhere. No high speed rail. People can't afford new $60k shitter vehicles. 20% home ownership for people under 40 (China has 95% and housing surplus). Disorganized system where any retard is allowed to cast a vote for whichever candidates are funded by the biggest businesses and wealthiest people who don't give a damned. And then they're grateful for the opportunity to make someone else a lot of money and then grateful to pay 40% taxes (it is an effective 40% for single filers if you included federal, state, local, and double FICA taxes and is even higher if you included sales and paid and passed on real estate taxes) and then use the leftovers for some shack rented from a landlord for exorbitant prices to survive another week. Joke country. Can't even build a bridge in less than 10 years. Hitler designed a few of the bridges in Germany before the allies destroyed them. It didn't take him 10 years to have them built in the 1930s. Imagine defending this gross incompetence.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 05:48:16 UTC No. 16107410
>>16103943
Safety standards and impact assessments are a big part of it. Modern impact assessments can take a real long time. If they need to acquire additional property for whatever reason that can also bog stuff down for years. Additionally financing can play a big role in making things take longer too. Here in Seattle the light rail taking forever to get implemented is largely due to cost as they only are allowed to spend so much year over year.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 06:01:02 UTC No. 16107423
>>16103943
Structural engineer here. There are lots of reasons
1- More testing. Our suppliers have to certify all their materials by doing hundreds of tests. They also have to carry out regular non-destructive testing on site. There is even more testing after the work is done. None of that was a thing 100 years ago
2- Building codes are more complex. My grandpa was also an engineer, and his building codes were a lot slimmer than the ones I use now. The number of load cases required to design for increased tenfold at minumum
3- Shit is more expensive. Back then, they could get away with slapping a ridiculously high margin of safety instead of wasting time on a refined design. I can't do that shit today because building materials cost a fortune
4- Labor regulations. No more dangling unsecured workers 600ft above the ground. One dude falling to his death is a scandal that warrants a site shutdown and a week-long investigation. Workers have to be paid real wages now because labor shortages are a thing. Back then, they could lose 3-4 workers per week and nobody would give a fuck. Humans were cheaper
5- Government restrictions. Can't make too much noise at night. Can't block traffic for a few months till we're done. Can't disrupt utility lines. It makes work alot more complex
I could probably go on forever. Engineering now is nothing like engineering 100 years ago
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 05:40:06 UTC No. 16108851
>>16107423
>None of that was a thing 100 years ago
and yet the brooklyn bridge is still standing
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 10:01:10 UTC No. 16109079
>>16107063
Point is the Empire State Building wasn't
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 16:23:50 UTC No. 16109392
>>16108851
There are bridges in Turkey that are thousands of years old. They probably couldn't withstand modern traffic patterns, but nonetheless.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 16:26:37 UTC No. 16109395
>>16107201
How did women become so unbelievably retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:04:49 UTC No. 16109424
>>16107423
>2- Building codes are more complex.
So how did >>16107201 get away with it??
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:05:37 UTC No. 16109425
>>16109395
Their optimised evolutionary purpose is to be seductive to chad and keep accident prone little retards alive while building things, food supply and defence were left to chad.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:45:35 UTC No. 16109466
>>16109395
They have always been this way. The dopamine response men have when interacting with them is simply great enough to overcome the annoyance. It's a beautiful system that keeps humans from going extinct, at least until recently.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 01:43:24 UTC No. 16110007
>>16107407
China is all apartments and they made so many prices are massively dumping and killing their economy you stupid chud. unless you want that to happen here property should remain as highas it is now, 67% of americans own homes btw.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 02:18:13 UTC No. 16110028
>>16110007
Literally who the fuck cares about “muh economy number hurr durr” if everyone owns a home?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:19:04 UTC No. 16110062
>>16103943
When you build with paper and rice with zero safety regards then you can do anything fast with slave labor.
I mean look at the pyramids people think it should have been impossible but they did it despite what modern soience cucks thinks
Plus that's a good thing, we live in a litigious society so things need to be done right and safe. I constantly report illegal construction practices cause it's just not fucking safe. I don't want to see these poor guys fucking die and their whole life just leads up to some edgy 4chan tranny fapping to the liveleak footage before they mutilate their cock and balls on livestream.
Yeah really fucking opaque like lauding china. Very brave.
Also I don't live in that shit hole thus not my problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:20:23 UTC No. 16110063
>>16107216
Yeah I'm really impressed that china built a million empty apartment buildings out of rice and paper clips.
Very cool.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:28:14 UTC No. 16110077
>>16103943
Because our civilization is collapsing.
https://www.ecosophia.net/civilizat
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:32:47 UTC No. 16110081
>>16107407
China is a dictatorship, there is much less red tape so things like large infrastructure projects get done quicker apart from that it's a shit place to live
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:34:36 UTC No. 16110082
>>16103948
kek absolute cope
China is now building better infrastructure than anywhere in the west and mutts are still sticking their heads in the sand
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:35:55 UTC No. 16110083
>>16110007
>property is cheap and affordable because they built more in advance
wow how horrible
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:38:54 UTC No. 16110090
>>16107234
Oh boo hoo poor niggers
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:40:08 UTC No. 16110091
>>16105889
What's sad is you actually believe this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2o
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:27:05 UTC No. 16111143
>>16110007
>67% of americans own homes btw.
rly?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 04:26:48 UTC No. 16111586
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 07:22:17 UTC No. 16111706
>>16111143
Don't be ridiculous. It's 65.7%. And that's for entire cohabitating families, not individuals, so the rate is technically significantly lower.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:30:39 UTC No. 16111853
>>16103943
>Were engineers of the past more capable than modern ones are even though they didn't even have computers to do all their calculations for them?
Yes
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:59:13 UTC No. 16111878
>>16110062
>>16110063
>>16110081
>>16110082
>I want big infrastructure projects done fast, that is the measure of a society!
>Nooo, not like that!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 01:59:21 UTC No. 16112921
>>16103943
People need computers to do all their calculations for them because they're incapable of doing those operations on their own