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Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:24:33 UTC No. 16104944
Given the very rise of recent VR and AI expeditious developments like ChatGPT and SORA, how likely is it were already in a computer simulation?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:31:07 UTC No. 16104957
I believe very likely, but I can’t shake the feeling that this is base reality.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:34:24 UTC No. 16104964
Darwinism proves simulation theory is is inaccurate or bullshit because it’s not adaptive why would the theory be so dysgenic and existentially dread inducing if it was true what ever theory increase fertility and group health is mostly true any belief or theory that isn’t healthy to psyche isn’t true
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:36:11 UTC No. 16104965
>>16104944
>>16104957
this is some /x/ shit, but it's nicer to read than the endless philosophical wheel-spinning over the same subject. both approaches are equally unproductive.
the development of VR and AI can't be used to make this sort of judgment. you'd need to know how the world the simulation hardware is running in works, whether the laws of physics are the same etc.
it's not very pragmatic to try to grapple with unobservable shit using your BRAIN, and with obsession it can lead to insanity.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:42:08 UTC No. 16104970
>>16104965
I ask because of this recent perhaps thought provoking article, and it made me realize we are so much closer to creating the real life Matrix today than just 5 years ago. It made me wonder if we're already living in a simulation by alien beings
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/30/opin
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:47:07 UTC No. 16104980
>>16104944
Indeed, its quite possible
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:54:00 UTC No. 16104993
>>16104970
i think if there were/is a way to tell, it will become clear once we're advanced enough.
it's sort of like when a teenager gets worried about locking down a quality life partner, it's something that ought to take care of itself if we do things right.
until that point, wonder is good, but don't get too bugged out over it
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:23:02 UTC No. 16105122
ITT:
>Is the material world dependent (or build upon) the world of thoughts/ideas (such as in Matrix or even dream universe theories) OR is it the world of thoughts and ideas that's dependent upon the physical world (aka materialism)
However, I would ask: Why not both? Why can't it be a recursive function? One built upon the other, which is built upon the other, so on and so on, with out a start OR end. What if there is no "base reality" and the expression "turtles all the way down" applies simply because it's an illusion created by it's recursive nature.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:25:39 UTC No. 16105126
>>16104944
Dude, you were uploaded to Second Life in 2008 at your own request. Your fault for not reading the ToS.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:37:41 UTC No. 16105142
>>16105122
fuckin fractals
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:20:39 UTC No. 16105206
>>16105122
No.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:25:43 UTC No. 16105214
>>16104944
You people who say this: What do you actually imagine? Because there has to be a base reality. Do you think of it like the matrix?
How are we conscious?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:59:44 UTC No. 16105450
>>16104970
This isn't a new conclusion made by someone somewhat educated in technology and philosophy, but the points regarding the recent developments of GPT and DALLE do support his reasonings we are heading toward creating the matrix within the next hundred years
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:01:20 UTC No. 16105453
>>16105450
who's paying for your matrix and why?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:05:02 UTC No. 16105458
>>16105453
The elites will inevitably build it, to keep the masses entertained and enslaved partly in terms of pity, otherwise to control . Meanwhile the child harvesters of adrenchrome will live on in their mansions in the real world, with robots doing all the work.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:47:22 UTC No. 16105524
>>16105458
That sounds like the same shit but far more expensive. Anyway most apes deserve to be slaves, they can't even be called humans.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:49:47 UTC No. 16105525
>>16105524
not expensive when super intelligent AGI invents it and robots do all the building
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:15:27 UTC No. 16105563
>>16104944
You are already an active pseudo agent inside a conscious simulation.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:54:40 UTC No. 16105745
>>16104944
>how likely is it were already in a computer simulation?
If you're asking how likely is that our universe is computationally-based, as in Stephen Wolfram's theories, then imo 100%.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:36:08 UTC No. 16105927
0%. The only people who think life is a simulation (and by extension religious people) are subscribing to a metaphysical belief to feel as if their lives and events in them have a purpose and reason and they view coincidences and events and such as synchronicities that cannot possibly be explained. This is the result of a small brain, population density, and doing events where things happen (dating apps). The more going ons a person has, and inflated sense of importance, the more likely they are to think bog or simulation dun did it. This thread is riddled with average IQ midwits, probably were raised in cities or suburbs their whole lives and opining only to feel as if their experiences mean something. There is no scientific basis or proof to any of it. Even the remotest justification for it, the BBT, has fallen apart so they can't say 'simulation man did it see the universe has a start point and had to be created' anymore.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 06:39:15 UTC No. 16105957
>>16104944
you inhabit both reality and the simulation, simultaneously
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljj32
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:21:57 UTC No. 16106037
>>16104944
Zero, not even a kardashev type 3 civ could do it, because reality is too complex to simulate
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:05:28 UTC No. 16106074
>>16104944
Better Question OP
Does it actually matter if the world is a simulation or not?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:45:01 UTC No. 16106086
>>16106074
Kinda.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:51:33 UTC No. 16106091
>>16106037
for this reality/universe. how would we know the calculation limit of a universe containing ours?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 11:03:15 UTC No. 16106106
>>16106091
What does calculation limit have to do with it, if you wanted to simulate a reality the only way to do that would be to physically create said reality, "simulating" with a computer would do jack shit, it's no more alive than a battery, reality is an inherently qualitative system, that's why things like mathematics and physics devolve states into numbers, to predict outcomes based on known variables and their interactions, but it doesn't describe what reality is, because ultimately it can't be quantified and thus is noncomputable or simulatable in any way, all you can create are empty imitations
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:49:40 UTC No. 16106412
>>16106106
>if you wanted to simulate a reality the only way to do that would be to physically create said reality
isn't that what a computer is? it's something we physically created to simulate Elden Ring world (as a random example)?
it's like you're trying to say that our reality's rules are part of root reality's rules, just that somehow walled? I don't get what you're trying to say
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:49:42 UTC No. 16106413
>>16105927
Spotted Agent Smith, everyone.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:15:13 UTC No. 16106427
>>16106412
>isn't that what a computer is
No? If you haven't noticed yet real life is made of more things than flowing electrons
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 01:13:25 UTC No. 16107118
Sciencebros how long until we get sexbots that look and feel like actual cute girls?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:31:28 UTC No. 16108225
>>16107118
2024
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:39:28 UTC No. 16108240
>>16107118
on the 15th of this month