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Anonymous No. 16105483

How come people in the sciences are never able or willing to fund their own research? Why do they always depend on welfare gibes handouts for funding instead? Are their advanced degrees worthless?

Anonymous No. 16105490

>>16105483
that takes away from attention you can give to whatever the fuck you study.
you only have so much attention and time. wasting it on gathering resources makes other scientists, who have resource support, out compete you. you can either maximize a skill or be a jack of all trades.

Anonymous No. 16105572

>>16105483
>I'm a billionaire
he's also the romanian mafia's bitch, a possible informant, LARPs as a muslim while pimping underage girls on onlyfans, and a lowly drug dealer on top of it all

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Anonymous No. 16105694

>>16105572

Cult of Passion No. 16105700

>>16105572
wut colour bugatt?

Anonymous No. 16105712

>>16105483
seems like a very insecure post

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Anonymous No. 16105906

>>16105483
They feel entitled to be burdensome leeches even though they produce nothing of value

Anonymous No. 16105913

>>16105483
I’ve unironically spent the last six months self-funding a small experimental setup, mostly through getting second hand equipment off eBay and surplus stores and machining a few parts myself. Currently have a lead on an HV supply I’m waiting to hear back on.

I’m out about two grand so far, probably another grand before it’ll be to the point where I can start doing actual experiments, but probably double that to get sufficient instrumentation to be publish-worthy.

So, in answer to your question - because it’s fucking expensive and time-consuming and has worse odds of success.

Anonymous No. 16106118

honestly it seems like the correct way to go about making advances in scientific research is to first become rich and then fund your own studies into things you want to develop
anything else inevitably just ends with becoming a whore for whatever agenda someone wants to slap a wafer thin veneer of scientific credibility on top of
I mean the enlightenment era geniuses were literally just a bunch of rich dudes

Anonymous No. 16106128

>>16106118
>is to first become rich and then fund
don't think that works out that way. when you start making money you usually start having extra obligations for various vacuous shit, and all of a sudden you're wasting all your time to make money. doesn't work like that, the two mindsets are not congruent

Anonymous No. 16106130

>>16106128
you're wrong

Anonymous No. 16106135

>>16105483
in a logical world researchers would find something useful to fix a problem for the rest of humanity
thus be abbe to capitalize on that finding by selling a cure or a fix ...

the problem come when researchers a funded by states to find problems in order to tax peoples

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Anonymous No. 16106142

>>16106130
nuh-uh

Anonymous No. 16106149

>>16105483
How come billionaires are never able to earn their wealth? They rely on getting it from others. Whether it is inherited from family or from smaller amounts from many people across the country, they never earn it themselves.

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Anonymous No. 16106150

>>16106142
all right let's break this down
>extra obligations
okay then accommodate those extra obligations you should still be left with a profit margin
if you're not then someone somewhere is trying to fuck you
figure out who it is
and then fuck them back
threaten to destroy everything they own
this is how life works in the upper class
like I'm sorry but you can't just pursue wealth and wisdom and also be a pussy at the same time

Anonymous No. 16106155

>>16106150
>threaten to destroy everything they own
that means dedicating braincycles to it, and money, and other resources. all of a sudden some rich imbecile is raping away x years from your life, for some retarded petty reason.
the best move is to not play that game.

Anonymous No. 16106158

>>16106155
I mean not really
threatening some bitch and fucking him up and terrorizing him until he curls up into a ball should not take up that much of your cognitive space
it should not realistically exceed 1%
like goddamn
just how limp wristed are you exactly

Anonymous No. 16106296

>>16106118
All the big key researchers were either people who came from wealthy families (they didn’t have to take time or effort to become rich, they were just born into it and used their family’s money to fund their lifestyle and research) or had wealthy patrons fund their research (which is essentially the system we have now)

Anonymous No. 16106332

>>16105700
I have you filtered. What'd you say?

Anonymous No. 16106350

>>16105483
Former Physics postdoc here. Basically the equipment needed is way too expensive for self funding. Salaries, however, were so low you kind of subsidised research by hardly getting paid. I didn't know disposable income before I left academia.

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Anonymous No. 16106394

>>16105483
"I have masters degree"

Cool.

I'm going to prison

Anonymous No. 16106403

>>16105483
I have hair

Anonymous No. 16106694

>>16106350
Why did you feel that it was OK to spend fortunes of other people's money on pointless useless experiments that you couldn't afford to fund on your own dime? Why is it unthinkable for you to fund your own research, but not unthinkable for you to seize other people's wealth for the same purpose? Why do you assume that others were willing and able to pay when you weren't willing or able to part with a penny of your own money for that cause?
Why are science faggots so cheap with their own money and at the same time greedy from other people's money?
>b-b-b-but its for a good cause!!
>i promise!!
>*proceeds to produce nothing of any value, just useless vanity publications in the academic press*

Anonymous No. 16106830

>>16106694
why are you expecting tech gibbs if you are not willing to support your scientists? the fucking entitlement

Anonymous No. 16106881

It’s why MDs discovered a huge chunk of basic science shit.
Be a Gastroenterologist, make a million a year working rurally. Run as a 1099, pay yourself through that. Take Fridays off to administer your lab and hire a biologist with a masters.
Bingo bongo boom you have a biotech company.

Anonymous No. 16106938

Was Al Capone a better person than Nikola Tesla because he had more money? Basically the same thing here, just replace drugs with prostitutes

Anonymous No. 16106952

>>16106830
>why are you expecting tech gibbs
you don't produce that, by claiming that you do all you're doing is highlighting the fact that the only way you can justify wasting other people's stolen money on your vanity publications is by lying

Anonymous No. 16106957

>>16106952
what do you mean? scientists produce tech, they fucking come up with it by doing experiments and tests and shit.
why would they struggle to do all that shit and the rest of you stingy fucks just benefit from it?

Anonymous No. 16107454

>>16106957
>scientists produce tech
no they don't, they publish lies in the academic vanity press, they don't do anything other than that. the airplane was invented by bicycle mechanics, electronic data networks were invented by a portrait artist, the computer was invented by lyonnaise loom operators. scientists can only invent fictions like dark matter and global warming and like their own completely false reputation for being inventive and useful when all they really do is waste other people's money on publishing lies in the academic vanity press

Anonymous No. 16107560

>>16107454
There are a lot of problemsof useless researchers yes but it's all about the system and the thinking needing to be more out to seek for the best of everyone wich is not the case : everyone cares about their own bs and bury temselves in it.
If scholars are taught to reallybe open minded and to think for everyone many more people would start studying things that matter more like energywise, medical and etc.
But corruption and the use of a consumerist society made us seek the wrong things, seeking neuroscience just to sell and not to make people smarter, searching for better foam for shoes technology when people still starve.
It's a cruel world and it's only because the people are corrupted

Anonymous No. 16107642

>>16107560
Stop replying to the lolbertarian flat earther.

Anonymous No. 16108682

I don't think he's actually a billionaire

Anonymous No. 16108691

>>16105483
The skills and/or luck needed to amass a fortune for own funding are not similar to the knowledge and training needed to pursure research.
Unfortunatly, we have limited time and youth...

Anonymous No. 16108695

>>16105483
>fund my own research
>submit research for peer review
>review found evidence of funding bias

Anonymous No. 16108926

>>16106158
But you are using like 90% of your brainpower right now just to impotently seethe and cope at anon.

Anonymous No. 16108947

bald

Anonymous No. 16108948

>>16105572
everyone who is very rich is someone's bitch, unfortunately that means we poorsfags are everyone's bitch... but if you're everyone's bitch you're really noones

Anonymous No. 16109575

>>16108948
nice cope

Anonymous No. 16109641

>>16105483
Thoughout the Enlightenment and the industrial age, scientists were just NEETs who could afford to mill around in the lab all day because their parents were aristocrats. And if they needed to fund their research, their family's estate covered the costs. Then academia was opened up to the proles, who couldn't afford to fund their own research.

Anonymous No. 16109644

>>16106128
Option 1: hire people to do your job for you and live off a reduced passive income
Option 2: sell your company and live off the revenue

Anonymous No. 16109647

>>16106952
Physicists are responsible for every scientific discovery that led to the invention of every piece of tech you take for granted, faggot.

Anonymous No. 16109659

>>16109647
no they aren't. they have to dishonestly claim credit for other people's work because they have nothing of their own to boast about. the airplane was invented by bicycle mechanics, electronic data networks were invented by a portrait artist, the computer was invented by lyonnaise loom operators

Anonymous No. 16109820

>>16106394
He actually looks kinda like an observant Muslim in this one

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Anonymous No. 16109857

>>16106394

Anonymous No. 16111108

>>16109857
why does he trigger you so badly?

Anonymous No. 16111399

Zero chance he is a billionaire. He has like $3M-$8M at the most.

Anonymous No. 16111401

>>16111108
It's satisfying to see arrogant megalomaniacs suffer.

Anonymous No. 16111408

>>16105483
Universities, as hubs of research and innovation, have played a pivotal role in driving technological advancements. With support from government grants, these institutions have been able to conduct groundbreaking research across a myriad of fields, from medicine and engineering to computer science and renewable energy. This research often forms the foundation for transformative technologies that shape industries and improve lives.

Government grants have been crucial in providing the financial resources necessary for researchers to explore new frontiers and push the boundaries of knowledge. By funding basic research, governments have created an environment where scientists and engineers can pursue ambitious ideas without the immediate pressure of commercial viability. This freedom to explore has led to serendipitous discoveries and breakthroughs that have paved the way for countless innovations.

Moreover, public funding ensures that the benefits of technological progress are accessible to all, rather than being confined to those who can afford it. By investing in research and development, governments can foster innovation that addresses societal challenges and promotes economic growth.

From the internet and GPS to renewable energy technologies, many of the most transformative innovations of the last century have roots in publicly funded research. As we look to the future, continued investment in research and innovation will be essential for tackling pressing global issues and unlocking the full potential of emerging technologies. By recognizing the vital role of public funding in driving technological progress, we can ensure that future generations continue to benefit from the fruits of innovation.

Anonymous No. 16111412

>>16111408
>As we look to the future

Anonymous No. 16111714

>>16105483
>I'm a billionaire
Cool.
I have a chin.

Anonymous No. 16111737

>>16111399
He is one of the most famous people on the planet, if he got paid by the amount of jealousy and butthurt he causes, he would easily be a trillionaire

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Anonymous No. 16112044

>>16111714
but you don't have a bugatti

Anonymous No. 16112259

I bet all the zoomers kneeled to him afterwards

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Anonymous No. 16112399

>>16105483
He's no where NEAR a billionaire. His net worth is 12 million

Anonymous No. 16112958

Why does Tate massively trigger so many people? What did he do thats so bad other than become successful and independently wealthy?
Do people get upset at him strictly on the basis of jealousy and envy?