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Anonymous No. 16111073

If you believe in Boltzmann brains then you must also believe it's possible to go through walls due to quantum fluctuations.

Anonymous No. 16111085

>>16111073
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi go through walls all the time.

Anonymous No. 16111087

>>16111073
>If you believe in Boltzmann brains
i have no clue what that is
>you must also believe it's possible to go through walls
yes i do
> due to quantum fluctuations.
wtf is that

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Anonymous No. 16111093

>>16111087
>yes i believe i can go through walls
>why? don't know

Anonymous No. 16111134

>>16111073
Such brain could pop up into existence, but that being more likely than evolution, I don't think so, doesn't make much sense.

Going thought walls should also be possible but realistically, the chance is so low we might as well call it impossible, just like waking up on the moon or countless other crazy ass events.

Anyway, the Universe is huge ass place and its there for a long time, so who knows what crazy shit happened already.

Anonymous No. 16111140

I'm more likely to get 10 Nobels and single-handedly save humanity from an alien invasion than I have to randomly teleport through a wall. And I'm pretty much retarded.

Anonymous No. 16111172

>>16111073
Yeah, and what stops it? A strong hard-coded PSR that kills your metaphysics? A god that kills your metaphysics? Pick your poison.

>>16111134
>but that being more likely than evolution, I don't think so, doesn't make much sense.
They can emerge post heat death and in universes which prohibit life, so very wrong.
>Anyway, the Universe is huge ass place and its there for a long time, so who knows what crazy shit happened already.
It's a very small place and a very short time (infinitesimally small, actually) compared to the time and space where boltzmann brains to dominate.

Unless you're appealing to a simulation hypothesis (with differing base physics) or a God (that also prefers 'conventional' life) the Boltzmann brain objection is not just brutal, it's usually outright fatal.

Anonymous No. 16111192

>>16111172
stellar fusion should exist for up to 100 trillion years. this cycle is incredibly young, and you have no clue what tech could allow us to do later on.
we don't know what else is more possible than a boltzman brain, even in end times of universe. we could also get the tech to bail on this universe, go to a younger one. or fuck knows what else.
the general idea is that you can't call it NOW, not with your brain, especially considering all of the information that we are missing.
you are a boltzman brainlet

Anonymous No. 16111199

>>16111172
>It's a very small place and a very short time (infinitesimally small, actually) compared to the time and space where boltzmann brains to dominate.

You don't really know its size but we do know it maxed our visible limit and estimated age has just doubled recently so spare me that bullshit.

Anonymous No. 16111262

As Wittgenstein said, "If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present."
Boltzmann Brain concepts are just a call to be such a person

Anonymous No. 16111308

>>16111262
What?

Anonymous No. 16111515

>>16111308
A Bolzmann Brain is a brain that could be you, because of a vaccum fluctuation, somewhere in the universe, experiencing what you are experiencing, but it passes back into the vacuum instantly.

The idea is that YOU could pass back into the vacuum instantly at the drop of a hat, if you are indeed a Bolzmann Brain.

Well, re-read the quotation in light of that.

Anonymous No. 16111521

>>16111515
is it more likely for it to spawn as exactly you or one which is you but with a different memory about something, anything? like aren't there way higher chances for "your brain" to spawn with various "wrong" memories vs this precise you?
also what's more likely, to spawn as you from now or you from one year ago? or any you since you were born?

Anonymous No. 16111531

>>16111515
I understand that already but I don't understand the quote

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>>16111172
>>but that being more likely than evolution, I don't think so, doesn't make much sense.
>They can emerge post heat death and in universes which prohibit life, so very wrong.
With laws of physics which make sense m NAHH

Anonymous No. 16111542

>>16111172
>>but that being more likely than evolution, I don't think so, doesn't make much sense.
>>They can emerge post heat death and in universes which prohibit life, so very wrong.
With mathematical laws of physics which make sense? NAHH