🧵 Ancient Infrastructure
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:11:12 UTC No. 16111416
If there was an advanced race in ancient times, let's say 1 million years ago, and they had infrastructure similar to ours, with cities numbering in the millions covering multiple square miles, and a high utilization of chemical or nuclear energy, would any of that stuff have survived to today? Or would it disintegrate so finely over a million years that it would be indistinguishable from regional geology? What kind of structures or artifacts might survive over such a time frame?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:14:51 UTC No. 16111417
Watch Graham Hancock
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Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:23:56 UTC No. 16111423
>>16111417
No I'm not interested in ancient alien pseuds. I would prefer a /sci/ examination of the idea of hypothetical much older civilization.
And yes I am aware that such a civilization would predate humanity, but for the sake of argument let's assume they're like us.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:40:00 UTC No. 16111439
>>16111423
it's retarded, they would have had satellites. there's zero arguments for it. let the thread die
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:40:58 UTC No. 16111441
>>16111439
Would the satellites we have launched still be in orbit a million years from now?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:45:09 UTC No. 16111445
>>16111441
Musk's roadster is most likely to stay in orbit (Earth-Mars) over 20 million years.
some lower orbit ones would decay in time but there's plenty of them who'd make it for way longer
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:50:42 UTC No. 16111451
>>16111416
Glass, some plastics and some metals can take millions of years to biodegrade. And I imagine if there was larger amounts of biodegradable material in some areas it would still leave kind of sediment layers in the ground that could be detected as abnormal
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:54:19 UTC No. 16111453
>>16111416
>He doesn't know about the dinosaur castles
The answer is no, nothing survived in recognizable form on the surface.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:54:54 UTC No. 16111454
we found dino bones and even some 3.5 billion years forms of life. we didn't miss a fucking advanced civilization lol
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 02:00:46 UTC No. 16111460
>>16111454
>hundreds of millions of years of fuckhuge dinosaurs
>bones are super rare and a full skeleton is a banner day
not a lot of stuff survives the passage of time.
a civilization like ours might only be around a few thousand years before self-destructing or otherwise dying off.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 02:05:10 UTC No. 16111464
>>16111460
well of-course this wasn't legit inquiry but schizos pushing this retarded take.
let the fucking thread die. it's flatearth territory, they are the same fucking retards
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 02:07:09 UTC No. 16111467
>>16111464
We are just exploring a radical idea. Why are you hostile to inquiry on something unique and novel?
No one except guys looking to make a book and legit lunatics believes in ancient aliens stuff.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 02:09:51 UTC No. 16111473
>>16111467
fuck off you mentally deranged lunatic
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 03:05:30 UTC No. 16111525
>>16111416
some of it would but you would never recognize it
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 04:41:53 UTC No. 16111597
>>16111464
It's not flat earth. It's more like flat civilisation
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 04:45:24 UTC No. 16111600
>>16111597
it's not flat civilization, it's more like flat brain
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 05:31:06 UTC No. 16111642
>>16111467
Keep going, your lunacy is pretty.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 07:11:06 UTC No. 16111697
>>16111642
When I was pushed off the roof by cranie, it's something about what the ground did.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:30:48 UTC No. 16112195
>>16111416
People have considered this, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silur
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 07:00:57 UTC No. 16113253
>>16111416
Back to >>>/x/ shitzo
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 07:47:34 UTC No. 16113312
>>16111416
Some materials might still be there, like glass. Also everything in space, particulary at lagrange points would just sit there pretty much untouched.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:37:55 UTC No. 16113381
>>16111441
Geostationary for sure. Low orbit no.
Stuff on the moon will still be there.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:47:06 UTC No. 16113393
I believe nothing would survive. Concrete, plastic, steel, all that would disintegrate after a few thousand years. Maybe something like the pyramids would persist but i think the widespread climate changes would either mean they end up under water or just get colonized by plants like moss and lichens.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:48:45 UTC No. 16113397
>>16111416
>>16111423
I've heard this question before and it seems there'd be two thing no amount of time would get rid of:
-Anything they left in orbit or otherwise on the Moon would still be there and available for us to archeologize.
-Bones. I know some people will argue that you can't know if a species is intelligent or not from whatever bones it has, and they have a point, but I mean that more in just the sheer quantity of skelebones a civilization comparable to us would leave behind. They'd be everywhere. Millions, potentially billions, of them.
>>16111451
>Glass, some plastics and some metals can take millions of years to biodegrade.
I don't know what happens to glass on land, but glass in the ocean, even in our own time, gets smoothed and worn down into delightful colourful fruit-pebble sand. Plastic "may" also end up being less forever than we think since there's already fungi, worms, microbes, and insects developing a taste for it. In another 200 years plastic mold may be a thing.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 09:06:44 UTC No. 16113406
>>16113397
Not after a billion years. They would all be under the ocean being transformed to limestone after a couple of hundred million years. Plus plants have an incredibly larger biomass compared to us so chances of finding human bones would be extremely rare leave alone in the significant quantities you allude to.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 09:09:08 UTC No. 16113410
>>16113406
>Not after a billion years. They would all be under the ocean being transformed to limestone after a couple of hundred million years.
The OP said 1 million years.
Please pay attention to the assignment.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 09:22:36 UTC No. 16113424
>>16113410
1 million is still an incredibly long time, if we assumed global warming melts the ice caps, most densely populated places on earth will be under water for a very long time. The satellites would also not survive without maintenance, assuming orbit changes, comets and asteroids, maybe the only surviving thing would be the voyager probes.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:09:40 UTC No. 16113698
>>16111416
Depleted mines and oilfields. The fact that we find untouched resources is the proof that such a civilization never existed in that timeframe.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 14:48:42 UTC No. 16113742
>>16111416
Civilizations existed on Venus and Mars millions of years ago when they were habitable. On Venus nothing can be seen through the cloud cover but on Mars you can see ruins and artifacts from its civilization everywhere.