Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 20:13:47 UTC No. 16112454

Seems to be true. Read the paper, it says 35% are due to smoking, the rest due to other health and lifestyle reasons. Only a small percentage are genetic.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 20:23:13 UTC No. 16112474

Define "preventable". Someone stuck in some shithole like Flint or Nawlins is going to ingest toxins.
>inb4 'just move bro'

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 20:46:04 UTC No. 16112517

>>16112454
it's kind of like motorcycle stats. taken as a whole with zero nuance, yeah, riding a motorcycle is practically a death sentence, but with a few key mitigators (eg, not riding drunk, wearing good gear, wearing bright hi-viz stuff, not being a retard) you can *drastically* increase the odds in your favor. sure, there's always the risk that you'll just get unlucky and get splattered by some moron on their phone but it's not as grim as overall stats look at first glance.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Apr 2024 22:25:22 UTC No. 16112674

>>16112454
all are genetic.

tobacco was genetically modified to produce viruses that modify your dna

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 09:14:19 UTC No. 16113416

>>16112432
Almost all prostate cancer is caused by a sexually transmitted parasite that is really easy to get rid of, but isn't screened for.
Trichomonas Vaginalis, the protozoan parasite that is responsible for "fish odour" in vaginas and is implicated in co-infection in almost all UTI's.
But it's not screened for nor treated unless it becomes life threatening.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:07:07 UTC No. 16113822

>>16112454
Is that proven by statistical studies, i.e control groups?

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:09:49 UTC No. 16113827

>>16112674
>modified to produce viruses
What?

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:09:59 UTC No. 16113828

>>16112432
take the cancer vaxx!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hvRoX959WIBH/

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:12:55 UTC No. 16113831

>>16113416
what drug kills this parasite

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:15:21 UTC No. 16113840

>>16112432
the word "preventable" does all the leg work. i don't see how you could define that without being somewhat arbitrary & controversial.
how much control do we have over environmental factors? of course we have some agency. they aren't entirely in control of us, but we aren't entirely in control of them either.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:25:39 UTC No. 16113858

>>16113840
>. i don't see how you could define that without being somewhat arbitrary & controversial.
>how much control do we have over environmental factors?
Something can be preventable even if you personally dont have control. For instance food intoxications can be prevented if all food is handled in a sanitary way, this is true even if yo dont have personal control of the food supply chain.
Poor people forced to live in shit and eat and breathe shit get sick. This is preventable in principle, doesnt mean its easy to prevent or that the control is democratically distributed or whatever contrived point you are trying to make.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:27:59 UTC No. 16113861

>>16113858
so as long as there's a condition which would prevent the thing from happening if fulfilled, then that thing is preventable?
would anything not be preventable under this definition?

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:31:55 UTC No. 16113866

>>16112432
>list of authors
>Bharat Aggarwal x10
It's false

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:32:28 UTC No. 16113869

>>16113858
the point i'm trying to make is that the exact definition is arbitrary, and that it wouldn't be easy to get a bunch of people to agree on what the most useful definition is, therefore OP's question is flawed.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:35:26 UTC No. 16113873

your response was to give a new definition of preventable, and then insinuate that i'm a leftist

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:36:48 UTC No. 16113875

>>16113840
Right.

>whereas the remaining 90–95% have their roots in the environment and lifestyle. The lifestyle factors include cigarette smoking, diet (fried foods, red meat), alcohol, sun exposure, environmental pollutants, infections, stress, obesity, and physical inactivity.
Sun exposure can cause cancer, but avoiding sun exposure has also been linked to cancer. Environmental pollutants are unavoidable to a certain degree, even if they were a manmade problem. There's dioxins in Alaska for example. Infections to a certain degree can be avoided by not living in crowded cities, but is everyone supposed to move out of the city? Wouldn't that just create new cities? Stress is in large part caused by our pampered lifestyles. We worry over things we didn't used to worry about because we're no longer concerned about starving to death or being eaten (not true for everyone of course). Cancer to a certain point is caused by people who would have died young before modernization living longer lives. We could decrease cancer rates by culling the weak and improving the gene pool, but that doesn't seem very PC.

>>16113858
>Something can be preventable even if you personally dont have control.
There's levels of it though. Dioxin accumulation was largely preventable at the population level. Humans failed and their accumulation is now all over the planet. At an individual level, I can reduce exposure by moving to a different environment, but I can't avoid them entirely due to decisions my ancestors made. So it's largely a human caused problem, aka it could have been prevented, but individuals now have very little control over it, aka it's not preventable now.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:43:53 UTC No. 16113885

>>16113861
>so as long as there's a condition which would prevent the thing from happening if fulfilled, then that thing is preventable?
Yes
>>16113861
>would anything not be preventable under this definition?
Many things are not under anyones control. You can play games with philisophies like determinism all you want, but no one is controlling if some error when a cell divides causes someone to get cancer. It is however possible to control how frequent that happens in a population if its found that some chemicals in the air, food or water increase such cancers.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:48:02 UTC No. 16113895

>>16113869
>the point i'm trying to make is that the exact definition is arbitrary,
I think it isnt and that you are just trying to muddle this discussion. You are likely a jew.
We are trying to talk and then you start trying to have some debate on the already agreed meaning of what a word means, just to throw everyone in an endless loop.
Preventable is a wide enough term that it encompasses every definition you want to throw at. It doesnt mean easy, it doesnt mean "powerful people control" or "control is personal".
It means human actions control it, and that it isnt random things that happen like mutations.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:57:33 UTC No. 16113913

>>16113895
i guess i take the OP questions too literally, but it seems to me like they are what leads to the endless loops.
if there isn't a definition that everyone agrees on, then the question can't be answered.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 17:03:07 UTC No. 16113920

>>16113895
>It means human actions control it, and that it isnt random things that happen like mutations.
Even that's kind of arbitrary though. All cancer is due to mutations. Mutation is always possible when a cell replicates. The immune system can force those cells to commit apoptosis in many cases. When it doesn't happen you end up with a tumor and/or cancer. So there's plenty of factors that impact both the speed that cells replicate, and the strength of our immune systems. We have some control over those factors. We don't have total control. IE, wear sunscreen or avoid the sun...well, both have also been shown to increase rates of cancer to some degree. How do you both get more sun and get less sun? You'll exacerbate certain forms of cancer with either choice. You can avoid most forms of infection by moving to a low populated area or even going off the grid. Except that social isolation seems to increase the risk for some forms of cancer. It's not always black or white.