🧵 Heart Thread
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 05:53:54 UTC No. 16113184
Does exercise actually improve my heart's health rather than make it work harder and thus decrease my lifespan? Is there any way for me to meaningfully measure improvement of my cardiovascular health?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 06:21:47 UTC No. 16113203
Humans were meant to be sedentary. Fruit flies, rats, and primates all life longer being inactive and this is shown with numerous drugs that induce such a state, like morphine. Sauna is probably the only safe form of cardiovascular exercise and its benefits are elicited beyond mere elevation of heart rate through vasodilation and reduced blood pressure following it for 14 hours.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 06:53:20 UTC No. 16113233
>>16113184
like everything else, there's probably a happy medium
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 10:00:08 UTC No. 16113456
>>16113203
This sounds mostly like bullshit.
>>16113233
This sounds accurate, but also too vague to be useful.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 11:17:06 UTC No. 16113520
>>16113456
The one has a hypothesis, reasoning for it, and evidences a series of studies on morphine and lifespan. The other is at best a tepid platitude and at worst a argumentum ad temperantiam. Regardless of how much you disagree with a premise, the latter is absolutely more bullshit than the former.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 15:23:02 UTC No. 16113784
>>16113520
Please post some evidence for your backwards claims, anon.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:13:32 UTC No. 16113835
>>16113203
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Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:15:05 UTC No. 16113838
>>16113203
>its benefits are elicited beyond mere elevation of heart rate through vasodilation and reduced blood pressure following it for 14 hours.
Um, exercise does the same thing.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:39:34 UTC No. 16113878
>Is there any way for me to meaningfully measure improvement of my cardiovascular health?
Wouldn't the obvious answer to this be measuring heart rate at rest?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:41:48 UTC No. 16113882
>>16113878
Low thyroid can do that too.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 20:44:00 UTC No. 16114239
>>16113878
Yeah I guess that’ll work.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 20:50:20 UTC No. 16114247
>>16113184
The heart is a muscle, it needs exercise just like any other muscle.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:01:49 UTC No. 16114258
>>16114247
I guess what I’d like to know is what constitutes as exercise for the heart and what doesn’t. For example, performing cardiovascular exercise increases heart rate because it forces your heart to work harder. Shouldn’t technically the same logic be applied to using stimulant drugs that force your heart to work harder? What’s the distinction between these two types of work, and why is one of them considered to be healthy and the other considered to be unhealthy?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:06:54 UTC No. 16114268
>>16114258
Took me 5 seconds to find an appropriate response on Google, anon. Try harder.
"With stimulants that speed up the heart, you’re pouring on the gas, but not changing your physical state. So the heart is pounding, but the body is still at rest. See the conundrum?
In this case, you haven’t triggered any of the critical functions of the body to share the load. The blood is pumping, increasing blood pressure, but you likely haven’t increased the oxygen supply. The capillaries are still tiny little tributaries now carrying way more blood. The adrenaline is flowing (think Fight or Flight), but there’s no lion in sight.
In contrast, as you set off on a run. Or take on a one-on-one. Or bench some weight until you’re done. Your body starts the process. It signals the right hormones and processes to increase heart rate and dilate the blood vessels and increase breathing to support the action of the muscles.
Your lungs take in more oxygen. Your body temperature increases, promoting sweat to cool you down.
So, the former is increasing A critical function. But the actual body isn’t covering for all the peripheral physiological activities that should accompany the increase in heart rate.
The latter is following the activity, balancing all those multitude of systems to support every facet of the work at hand.
Make sense?"
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:13:54 UTC No. 16114275
>>16114268
Yeah, actually. Thanks for spoon feeding me, anon.
Guess I should start running again.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:16:36 UTC No. 16114281
>>16114275
Good luck, anon. A bit of effort every day goes a long way.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Apr 2024 21:37:58 UTC No. 16114315
>>16114258
Exercise improves mitochondria. A stimulant would not. It's not just about the heart.