Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 10:25:58 UTC No. 16116644

>>16116617
Yes, I cured myself from all resentful thought and can stop myself from having any. It has been a very humbling and beautiful experience. Since you're already on 4chan, the disassociation from the normal world shouldn't be too bad, but take care. Dose biweekly starting with small doses and increase with time. Use your judgement when it's enough. You will figure yourself out intuitively.
The future of human thought is in psychedelics which will merge religion, philosophy and science into one thing which they've always been. It just takes serious people with enough taste not to fall into the prophet or hippie trap. There are some serious thinkers drawing inspiration from psychedelics, but I'm yet to see someone intelligent enough to properly represent it.
In short, Pythagoreans and Parmenides were smarter than most think. The main issue is that of language, which wasn't formalized in a way to allow proper translation of thought. Nowadays we're having an opposite problem, the language is abstract enough, yet we don't communicate qualia. I lack the ability to present anything in a clear way, but those who experienced certain states of mind will know what I'm talking about.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 10:51:55 UTC No. 16116664

>>16116644
>I lack the ability to present anything in a clear way, but those who experienced certain states of mind will know what I'm talking about.
you still fell for some traps.
tell me, this "truth" you cannot verbally share, does it have a similar quality to deja vu? in the sense that you god fucking know it you've been through that experience before, you just can't...predict what will happens next. but you KNOW. is it that sort of "I know shit but can't explain it" feeling? because deja vu happens when there's some out of sync shit in your brain, and guess what happens on shrooms, your brain is in overdrive in an unusual way

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:27:53 UTC No. 16116700

>>16116664
I think what he means that what you experience, and all the "knowledge" you receive is purely qualitative, it can't be explained because it's not quantifiable, it's just pure experience.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:40:59 UTC No. 16116714

>>16116664
>you still fell for some traps
hah, very likely
The 'truth' I experience is the intuitive understanding of existence itself. It's the synthesis of Spinoza's idea of god with that of monotheisms. It's seeing how the philosophical/religious ideas got misunderstood by the immediate following generations. It is the experience of so called gnosis, nirvana, theosis, whatever different traditions call it, and also the experience of visions. They are of course, all experiences of the brain, but also mystical in the idealistic sense.
These things which I'm talking about make intuitive sense to those who experienced them, as this very experience makes you able to intuit as you were able to as a child, when your senses were fresh.
The talent which I lack is to present this knowledge to those without direct experience. I'm very liberally assuming that such thing is even possible.
How can I make sense to a normal person if I tell them that visual hallucinations from psychedelics are the synesthesia of the large intestine's nerves over the visual field, and that once they conceptualize this fact, the brain translates that into a new sense of the inside of the gut and the location of that feeling is around your visual field. Does this make sense to somebody who never experienced synesthesia? No. And this is just the inner feeling of the brain gut connection. Oh yeah, you also get some 'control' over your intestines, in the sense that you're also aware that your brain sends the signals back.
It gets worse.
Now the signals from the gut have been separated into a new sense. They don't interfere with one's observance of one's own organism. Now you can attempt to observe other synesthetic signals and translate them to your conscious experience.
This is insanity to an average person, because the average person doesn't try to observe their own senses through years of meditations and/or drugs.
There's tons more, all equally insane.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:45:03 UTC No. 16116718

>>16116700
basically this, and if you try to explain, you get bunch of my nonsense in this post lol >>16116714

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:04:05 UTC No. 16116736

>>16116617
I did them, both macrodoses and microdoses of shrooms and LSD
didn't do anything for me unfortunately, I seem resistant to these substances
ketamine has been more profound for me but outside of the brief manic state after use, it's hard for any of the "revelations" to stick, I just go back to living life as previously (which isn't so bad, maybe that's the problem - I am not unwell enough for this shit to really benefit me).

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 18:14:36 UTC No. 16117278

>>16116714
I agree that it's not for the average person. Not that they wouldn't benefit from it, it's just that they start having wild ideas which don't actually do much for them or anyone else. Clearly apart from relaxing a bit and seeing life a bit differently. The experience itself can be nice, but boy do many fall for a bunch of stories their brain tells them.
you could potentially bring something back, here as it were, it's just pretty hard in practice, not many do.
from what I've seen others say, nobody gets new real ideas, they don't figure out e=mc^2 out of the blue, and get equations and everything. at most things they were already thinking about/dealing with make more sense/crystalize new meanings things of that nature.
again, not denying the beautiful part of the experience, just the magic/access to "spirits" and shit of that nature, that is not real.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:10:12 UTC No. 16117350

>>16117278
Yeah, the experience at the higher doses can be overwhelming if you don't know what to expect.
Concerning new ideas, the stuff you wrote after 'at most' sort of is what a new idea is, isn't it? Like an epiphany?
Spirits are a whole can of worms. Some are best thought of as Jungian archetypes tied to brain function or lesser wills(with respect to the process of individual's cognition), and others are representations of higher wills such as an other individual, nation, city, mother earth, etc. These will all have different names in different cultures and even within them. In some religions with complicated cosmologies those two types are represented as a singular being, this gives you a very interesting and surprisingly sophisticated method of analysis. Ghosts obviously don't exist.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:17:47 UTC No. 16117359

>>16117350
I think you explained it better than I could have. Yes I had epiphanies but was related to information that was already there, just couldn't put some things together in certain way. There are deeper layers of us.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:20:49 UTC No. 16117367

>>16116617
reddit tier meme. shit fucks with your head even if you believe to be immune. stay away. it turns good people into hippies and makes you content with living in shit.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:25:06 UTC No. 16117372

>>16117367
Not OP and don't agree. Do want moneys and live in better conditions.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Apr 2024 19:43:58 UTC No. 16117392

>>16117372
stop trolling the autists, anon.

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Apr 2024 04:28:08 UTC No. 16117988

>>16116617
theyre for pathetic druggies that cant handle reality

Anonymous at Mon, 8 Apr 2024 15:50:43 UTC No. 16118756

>>16116714
Dosage regimen and grow tek?
>t. knower