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Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 03:05:57 UTC No. 16121827
whats stopping people from literally shipping mass quantities of water from the ocean and into deserts? it could both alleviate rising sea levels and maybe even help bring life back to some deserts. I heard someone get called retarded for saying this in a thread so I wanted to hear more regarding climate change and landforming/greening.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 03:14:56 UTC No. 16121830
>>16121827
I cant wait until the great salt lake dries up and posions the mormons and ruins their property values
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 03:26:28 UTC No. 16121836
>>16121827
>whats stopping people from
no money to do it and no money to gain from it
dont like deserts? Dont live in one
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 03:27:57 UTC No. 16121839
>>16121827
desalination
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 03:37:10 UTC No. 16121846
>>16121827
sea level isn't rising, you only believe in global warming because it tickles your ego via your narcissistic savior complex's confirmation bias. you're a pointless retard who nobody respects, so you find fantasizing about saving the world from (((global warming))) and becoming a hero appeal because it allows you to imagine that you can finally stop being a nonentity.
you wouldn't have these mental issues if you weren't so lazy
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:22:48 UTC No. 16121904
>>16121827
Most deserts are 2nd or even 3rd world, undeveloped shitholes, that really nobody is interested in spending money on unless it's some kind of money-making aid workshop scam. Never mind large terraforming projects like you're suggesting. It would require a lot of money and energy to transport and desalinate all the water for what you're talking about.
Furthermore, a lot of deserts are deserts for a reason: something about their geography or climate typically insists upon desertification whether that be mountains blocking nourishing rain, deforestation stopping cloud formation and humidity, or people taking too much ground water- literally just slurping up that water. T'were you to even dump all that water onto our hypothetical desert it'd be a constant uphill battle against other forces.
With that said if this is secretly a bored billionaire looking to spend money on a feel good project: The Salton Sea.
The Salton Sea used to be a massive fresh water lake that was home to millions of fish, birds, and all manner of aquatic life. Humans polluted it from run-off from Californian agriculture, they drained it of water, and now the Salton Sea is extremely salty, almost completely deoxygenated, with 90% of all marine life in the water dead/extirpated. It's just a massive drainage ditch for California's filth and I hear the whole place just smalls absolutely fucking awful.
The Salton Sea can be saved. The Salton Sea rests upon the Salton Buttes, a volcanically active geothermal line, with bubbling mud geysers endemic and the Imperial Valley Geothermal Project already established and producing geothermal energy. Sections of the Salton Sea could be walled off piece by piece and then, using the geothermal energy, desalinated and poured back into the lake. Meanwhile, further contamination and run-off could be prevented, or at the very least mitigated, by establishing toxic 'Constructed Wetlands' in the main drainage canals and rivers that feed the lake.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:27:08 UTC No. 16121907
Cthulhu.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:40:46 UTC No. 16121920
Fun geology thing I learned about those cracks in the desert. They're mostly caused by bentonite and similar expanding clays which are made in places that experienced hot-wet-dry climate cycles in the past. Up north where I live, we mostly have glacial clay which is non-swelling, and that's why we mostly don't see those cracks so much when puddles dry up here. You can spot places with non-native soil by how they crack in the summer.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:41:12 UTC No. 16121923
>>16121846
no i actually heavily doubt global warming, i just made this thread because i was curious what shipping water from the ocean would do and if it would actually achieve anything if we had the resources
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 05:28:05 UTC No. 16121956
>>16121904
Why are you blaming "California" when capitalists are really responsible for environmental damage?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 05:54:52 UTC No. 16121979
>>16121846
https://www.sealevels.org
Click and drag in the plot area to zoom in
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:04:15 UTC No. 16121987
>>16121846
>>16121923
>>16121979
Google "Sand Theft".
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:48:09 UTC No. 16122023
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:56:18 UTC No. 16122031
>>16122023
>i have no real argument
always replied to the same dumb picture...
who's the spammer now?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 07:44:16 UTC No. 16122054
>>16121827
The problem is mainly the people living in those areas. You could channel water from the MEd into the Saharan depression but the are is full of terrorists, fundamentalists and crazy people you do not want to encounter.
>>16121839
Evaporation from the Saharan depression would be a cheap way of desalination.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 09:59:50 UTC No. 16122127
>>16121827
Why would anyone do that? The invention of "nature" (the absurd scarcity-abundance spectrum) is, in fact, the greatest feat of geoengineering.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:02:45 UTC No. 16122129
>>16121827
I think it's either Sahara or the Amazon forest, one gotta be desert in current setup.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:07:55 UTC No. 16122176
>>16121827
If nothing is growing because the environment is too hostile for most vegetation, I wouldn't suggest salting the earth
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:02:32 UTC No. 16122227
>>16121827
>whats stopping people from literally shipping mass quantities of water
the massive mass quantities
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:03:46 UTC No. 16122288
>>16122227
Why bother carrying or moving ocean water. Mine the top of mountains down to breathable conditions and to the point snow doesn't gather unless winter. Now clouds can travel to the desert and fresh water isn't trapped as snow on a mountain.
Gain material and fossils from mining top of mountains. Tech tonic plates keep pushing material and fossils up. Which is why some mountains keep getting taller. So "infinite" stone production with no human production.
And more diverse ecosystem because now the terrain is more habitable to creatures that don't need to survive below freezing conditions build huge lakes/ponds on top to collect rain water if it over flows just more streams/rivers. Also if you look up Mount Everest so many tourists have gone for the experience that a side of mount Everest is just a frozen shit stain. That harms the locals below. No more "tallest" mountain means tourists can go to any local mountain and still get be at the tallest mountain and no more mountain shit stains.