Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:44:30 UTC No. 16122208

>>16122204
The less tranny the degree is, the lower the democrat vote

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:46:15 UTC No. 16122210

Imagine voluntarily aligning yourself with retarded dogmatic sides whose only aim is to fuck you in the ass in every conceivable way

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:53:14 UTC No. 16122217

>>16122204

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:02:03 UTC No. 16122224

>>16122204
There are so many problems with this picture and its premise I don't even know where to begin.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:10:27 UTC No. 16122234

>>16122204
Because engineering is a discipline that is unflinchingly logical.
There's no room for airy fairy faggotry, otherwise people die.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:11:24 UTC No. 16122236

>>16122224
>>16122217
>>16122210
Chuds who say this almost always end up supporting rightoid shit 9/10 cases

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:19:19 UTC No. 16122247

>>16122236
That's because direction-brained leftoids such as yourself see anyone who disagrees with you as a rightoid, and vice-versa for direction-brained rightoids. You can't comprehend the existence of someone who forms their own opinions on an issue-by-issue basis.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:24:50 UTC No. 16122251

>>16122236
>NOO YOU CAN'T FORMULATE YOUR OWN OPINIONS AND BELIEFS WITHOUT LABELLING YOURSELF LIKE CATTLE
Shut the fuck up, faggot

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:36:19 UTC No. 16122258

>>16122204
I love this picture.
>educated people lean left
>this proves they can't be trusted
Maybe look into why educated people lean left?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:39:23 UTC No. 16122261

>>16122204
I refuse to believe literally 100.00% (down to 2 decimal points) of communications and anthro degrees are Democrats.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:46:06 UTC No. 16122266

>>16122204
Most engineers are democrats according to your data, which is probably fake or wrong anyway, so engineers are not chuddy.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:57:17 UTC No. 16122278

>>16122258
It's not that educated people lean left, it's that people who lean left are more likely to go into teaching because they want to propagandize students.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:00:14 UTC No. 16122284

>>16122261
No, 100% of the FACULTY in those degrees at the colleges sampled are Democrats, not 100% of the students.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:06:29 UTC No. 16122292

>>16122204
They have to build actual, real-world things that actually work.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:07:31 UTC No. 16122295

>>16122266
>Most engineers are democrats according to your data,
No, most engineering PROFESSORS

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:41:26 UTC No. 16122334

Because it used to pay a bomb before the 3rd World was mass imported, lowering the salary.

Every pajeet and chink wants to be an engineer

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:52:53 UTC No. 16122351

>>16122236
>everyone to the right of mao is far right

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:56:28 UTC No. 16122356

>>16122204
All those fields other than engineering require you to be subservient in order to get promoted, so these fields naturally attract soi-types

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:00:27 UTC No. 16122358

In engineering if you fuck up it costs actual lives and money.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:01:07 UTC No. 16122360

>>16122236
>everybody that slightly disagrees with the constructed worldview I was forcefed since birth and has resulted in demonstrably grave amounts of pain in the world is a far-right terrorist and needs to be silenced
>trust the science!!! no! not like that chuddy!!!
etc etc and so on and so forth.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:24:54 UTC No. 16122385

>>16122247
>someone who forms their own opinions on an issue-by-issue basis
It's perfectly possible to do this while acknowledging your broader position on the left-right spectrum.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:27:17 UTC No. 16122391

>>16122360
Who are you quoting?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:39:52 UTC No. 16122410

>>16122204
Conservative parents beat their children if they show interest in studying an art. This is why art and culture in general is overwhelmingly leftist. The right copes with this by blaming it on a Tom Clancy conspiracy theory being carried out by the Jews, but the reality is much simpler.

Conservatives are also far less likely to seek out an education in general. Red states are consistently the poorest and least productive in the country.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:43:29 UTC No. 16122420

>>16122410
>Red states are consistently the poorest and least productive in the country.
Blue states are consistently the most homeless
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
List of top 10 most homeless line up nearly 1:1 to list of highest homeless rates

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:45:43 UTC No. 16122424

>>16122420
>Blue states are consistently the most homeless
I haven't claimed otherwise. Did you mean to respond to a different post?

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:46:37 UTC No. 16122425

>>16122424
Op didn't mention productivity. Maybe you meant to remind to a different post?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:47:36 UTC No. 16122427

I know this is a bait thread, BUT
yes, the state uniparty attracts fashionable and above average people by design.
No, that is not something to be proud of, nor does it mean the party isnt evil.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:47:49 UTC No. 16122429

>>16122385
>I'm right-leaning.
>DON'T YOU KNOW TRUMP IS A CRIMINAL?!
>I'm left-leaning.
>DON'T YOU KNOW BIDEN HAS DEMENTIA?!
Good luck trying to convince direction-brains that having a certain leaning doesn't guarantee affiliation with either party or support for either of their presidential candidates. The left-right spectrum is only used to reduce people to a series of assumptions with thought-terminating labels.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:47:50 UTC No. 16122430

>>16122424
Op didn't mention productivity. Maybe you meant to respond to a different post?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:48:27 UTC No. 16122431

>>16122429
Good post

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:49:12 UTC No. 16122432

>>16122425
>Op didn't mention productivity.
And? I brought productivity up as a digression.
>Maybe you meant to remind to a different post?
The initial, and primary parts of my post directly address the OP's question.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:50:25 UTC No. 16122435

>>16122430
Why did you delete your post and then post it again?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:52:42 UTC No. 16122437

>>16122435
Try reading before you begin kneejerking.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:53:08 UTC No. 16122438

>>16122430
>>16122432

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:54:32 UTC No. 16122440

>>16122432
>I brought productivity up as a digression
Oh well I guess I bought up rampant homelessness in blue states as a digression as well

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:59:16 UTC No. 16122444

>>16122440
A digression from what? You didn't write anything else in your post.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:04:14 UTC No. 16122447

>>16122251
Shunning the label doesn't make you less cattle.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:09:17 UTC No. 16122455

>>16122427
Yeah that would be a nice theory if there wasn't another party in America which is even represented on OP's chart so I'm not sure what excuse you have for this lapse in memory

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:12:02 UTC No. 16122462

Left-leaning people
>Yeah I'm left-leaning
Right-leaning people
>Don't you know that the left-right paradigm is just a dogmatic tool to make you pick a side, maaan, I don't have a label, I'm a free thinker, I judge every issue individually

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:19:50 UTC No. 16122471

>>16122462
That's what happens when the left-dominated media and education systems demonize everything right of Marx to the point that anyone expressing any form of "right-wing view" feels in threat of being socially ostracized and fired from their job. Right-leaning moderates just don't talk about politics, which feeds into the left-wing delusion that the right is a minority while turning them into a silent majority.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:19:52 UTC No. 16122473

>>16122234
you can also give them a problem outside of their specialisation and they will still work it out correctly but breaking it down from first principles
meanwhile doctors fail basic questions on stats

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:25:27 UTC No. 16122482

>>16122471
News flash, asshole: the entirety of America is right of Marx by a long shot
>feeds into the left-wing delusion that the right is a minority while turning them into a silent majority
Is that why Trump lost?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:30:30 UTC No. 16122487

>>16122471
Good post

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:30:40 UTC No. 16122488

>>16122482
>Is that why Trump lost?
Thank you for being a prime example of the exact stupidity I'm talking about.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:32:12 UTC No. 16122490

>>16122488
Oh good, you are able to acknowledge that the current "right-wing" party in America is extreme right. Now the next big revelation is that your "left-wing" party is overwhelmingly a moderate right party.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:34:13 UTC No. 16122494

>>16122490
What are you babbling about, retard?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:35:10 UTC No. 16122495

>>16122471
>the left-dominated media and education systems demonize everything right of Marx
The irony of your post is that you're defining everything to the left of you as Marxism.

Meanwhile Republicans control the house, Fox news is the largest and most consumed news network in the country, and the president himself is at best a moderate liberal.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:36:43 UTC No. 16122496

>>16122494
The fact that you're under the impression that Ronald Reagan was a Marxist.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:38:42 UTC No. 16122498

>>16122204
This focus on race, gender and so on is illogical and stupid, i cant believe such a thing is tolerated in any STEM corporation.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:40:55 UTC No. 16122499

>>16122258
Your so educated that you cant even describe what the average black ghetto person does as you have no fucking clue how normal black people behave only the black people in your cultural marxist propaganda. Thats why you lunatics lose your shit whenever we point out a genuine evil black lunatic because to you blacks are oppressed snowflakes they cant possibly just be evil bastards that terrorize their own people for shits and giggles. It makes me laugh seeing the walls of text you fruit loops type up to rationalize blacks acting like antisocial degenerates for no explained reason.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:41:44 UTC No. 16122502

>>16122495
Yeah, here's a guy calling the Democratic party "the uniparty" >>16122427, conservatards have a weird tendency to just completely ignore the right wing media and political dominance in order to maintain their persecution complex. Actual Marxism isn't even in (or near) the overton window, but the same can't be said for actual nazis.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:42:15 UTC No. 16122506

>>16122499
>Your so educated
It's "You're", anon. "You're so educated."

Happy to help.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:42:48 UTC No. 16122507

>>16122499
>There's no explained reason for any of this!
>Actually here's one, well accepted by experts
>Rationalisation!!!!! You guys are lunatics!!!

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:42:59 UTC No. 16122510

>>16122462
>Don't you know that the left-right paradigm is just a dogmatic tool to make you pick a side, maaan, I don't have a label, I'm a free thinker, I judge every issue individually
Ok. So who did you vote for?
>Rep straight ticket

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:44:26 UTC No. 16122512

>>16122495
>>16122496
Are you both actually so autistic that you can't parse my obvious hyperbole?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:44:27 UTC No. 16122513

>>16122510
Just a coincidence though!

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:45:40 UTC No. 16122515

>>16122510
>>16122513
I don't vote.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:46:20 UTC No. 16122517

>>16122512
Schrödinger's hyperbole. If we hadn't called you out on your retardation you would've happily let it stand literally. Case in point: every rightard bitching about Marxism everywhere.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:49:14 UTC No. 16122518

>>16122517
See: >>16122217

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:50:46 UTC No. 16122519

>>16122507
>Le poverty is why blacks are antisocial degenerates
You cant find one poor white city as horrible as the metropolitan black areas, so try again Mr.Educated. The fact you dont realize this shows you have no semblance of logical reasoning your an ideological psychopath.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:53:27 UTC No. 16122521

>>16122518
>I happen to sound just like every rightoid parrot out there
>But when you call me out I was obviously using hyperbole
I wish Josef Stalin would personally send you to the gulag and I am 100% serious (joking (not really (or am I?)))

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:54:28 UTC No. 16122523

>>16122519
>You cant find one poor white city as horrible as the metropolitan black areas
Yes we can, rural white areas have sky-high murder rates, worse than the scary urban crime centres you hear about on Fox News

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:54:44 UTC No. 16122524

>>16122521
I'm sorry about your autism.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:56:11 UTC No. 16122525

>>16122524
I was being sarcastic you autist

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:58:55 UTC No. 16122527

>>16122523
>rural white areas have sky-high murder rates
>rural area
>high murder rate

This is not the case even in african black countries, you are so "educated" you ideological lunatic. Rural areas have basically nothing that would interest criminal minded people thats why crime is usually high in fucking cities you stupid fuck. Criminals are predatory parasites they need something to leech or they lose their purpose. That is why if you put black psychos from the inner city into a suburb they mindlessly start terrorizing the white people in their homes as that is the only thing to leech in a suburb, in a rural area you cant do that as the houses are far apart big time, maybe you could steal animals and get shot dead in the process. If blacks were really that criminally insane we would see shitloads of rural black crimes that were done by blacks that came outside of the rural area yet that basically never happend. All rural black crimes are done by blacks born there and there is barely any rural black crime in the US to begin with.
Back to the poverty debate, there are more poor white people in the US than twice the black population yet somehow there is not 10 violent dangerous white shitholes, that alone completely breaks your argument.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:01:20 UTC No. 16122529

>>16122525
See: >>16122524

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:02:19 UTC No. 16122530

>>16122527
>crime is usually high in fucking cities you stupid fuck
NTA, but crime is higher in cities because cities have more people.

Crime RATES, however, are often higher in rural areas.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:04:56 UTC No. 16122534

>>16122527
M8 it's a bunch of inbred rednecks with nothing much to do except make drugs and do drugs, there aren't a lot of people to fuck, and everyone and their mum has guns. Of course there are a lot of murders. Look here. The deep South. Flyover states. Fucking Alaska. You're the ideological lunatic.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:06:12 UTC No. 16122537

>>16122529
I accept your concession.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:06:57 UTC No. 16122539

>>16122204
now do this for the boards that control those universities, only by nationality

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:12:02 UTC No. 16122543

>>16122258
Educated people used to lean right here in my country.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:12:54 UTC No. 16122547

>>16122543
Eastern Europe?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:14:15 UTC No. 16122549

>>16122523
>murder rate in Utah is as high as in San Diego.
Do you really believe this?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:22:59 UTC No. 16122556

>>16122534
This moron doesnt realize hes agreeing with me as hes admitting that poor whites barely have crime rates

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:24:20 UTC No. 16122558

>>16122549
As it happens, not Utah, no.
But Kansas, Nevada, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and especially Missouri and New Mexica, to name a few, have higher crime rates than the city of San Diego.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:26:18 UTC No. 16122562

>>16122558
Hm, I wonder if those crimes are committed on a field in the middle of nowhere or in large population centers, where there are many people and you easily make money via criminal activity, such as theft or selling drugs. Hm, if only your map showed that.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:28:07 UTC No. 16122566

>>16122558
Not a single US state has a higher crime rate than the city of San Diego

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:30:02 UTC No. 16122569

>>16122566
That is plain false. But you actually managed to pick out one of the cities with the lowest crime rates lol
>B-b-but it's in Commiefornia, howw???
It just works I guess

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:30:50 UTC No. 16122570

>>16122569
>cities
That retard says that the states have higher crime

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:36:06 UTC No. 16122573

>>16122258
educated people also supported anti-jew principles in weimar germany. hitler had the support of university intellectuals. "maybe look into why educated people leaned that way?" that's what you sound like.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:36:21 UTC No. 16122574

>>16122569
There's no way there's less crime in a city bordering Mexican cartel territory than in Alaska where there's nothing interesting whatsoever. Even if your statistics say that, it just makes no sense. It's same case as with Chinese statistics that say China had a growth of +10% even though the world's been in a recession. It's obvious nonsense.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:39:12 UTC No. 16122576

>>16122204
This is very literally only because faculties self select for ideological adherence over competency. Anyone with heterodox views in academia knows very well the difficulties and constant lying required to ever get a decent position.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:41:07 UTC No. 16122577

>>16122204
Engineers learn just how hard the world fucks you in the ass if your understanding is wrong. Math can help you along the way, but in the end it's your internal model of reality that has to be correct enough, I've not met many engineers with simple political opinions, maybe the older guys with kids who just want the world to flow.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:41:44 UTC No. 16122578

>>16122570
lol my mistake I misread
But San Diego's murder rate is still quite low compared to some counties in Mississippi or Arkansas

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:43:44 UTC No. 16122584

>>16122573
Interesting how the intellectuals are anti-Semites when you need to legitimise anti-Semitism, yet the intellectuals are Jewish when you need to delegitimise intellectualism...

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:44:46 UTC No. 16122586

>>16122574
Ah, the final cope of the conservatard. "It makes no sense according to my worldview! Either my worldview or the facts are right! So the facts are wrong!"

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:44:46 UTC No. 16122587

>>16122584
Interesting how you deflect with a straw-man, once people point out your BS.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:45:50 UTC No. 16122590

>>16122586
So you believe Chinese and Russian statistics, as well? Or how do you justify your preferences?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:45:50 UTC No. 16122591

>>16122385
Why would aligning yourself with whatever ideology be desirable in any way? Just think for yourself lmao.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:46:48 UTC No. 16122595

>>16122587
I'm not sure what "BS" you think you've pointed out, I'm just pointing out yours. The nazis were profoundly anti-intellectual and Jews are popularly linked to intellectualism among anti-Semites.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:47:19 UTC No. 16122597

>>16122591
Adherence to a group gives you power, that's almost always the reason why people get into ideologies to beging with.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:47:49 UTC No. 16122598

>>16122590
No, no, you're quite right, America is a third world banana republic after all

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:48:50 UTC No. 16122599

>>16122591
What shape do you think the Earth is?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:49:05 UTC No. 16122602

>>16122591
Because it's a quick way to convey where you stand while having a conversation without going into excessive and time-wasting detail. Moreover, you do tend to lean one way or the other, whether you like it or not. You're not nearly as unique as you think you are.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:49:17 UTC No. 16122603

>>16122534
Christ you're retarded. Who do you think is committing those murders?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:50:21 UTC No. 16122605

>>16122603
Yer ma

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:50:25 UTC No. 16122606

>>16122595
The intelligentsia of Weimar Germany was conservative and aligned with the bygone Imperial Germany. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:52:02 UTC No. 16122608

>>16122204
We have to understand or we're useless, some only do it in their work, for others it's a compulsion. I showed some engineering buddies IQ stats they'd never seen before, took like three sets of data and they all just integrated it going
>that actually makes so much sense
It's so refreshing to be around people who can take numbers at face value, bold motherfuckers

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:52:58 UTC No. 16122609

>>16122598
>China is on par with Zimbabwe now
So you have no reason and you choose to believe whatever statistics are convenient for you, I see.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:54:42 UTC No. 16122612

>>16122602
Maybe you should just stop thinking in stereotypes and accept that people are more complex than you give them credit for.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:55:38 UTC No. 16122614

>>16122608
>It's so refreshing to be around people who can take numbers at face value
i.e. don't know how to interpret statistics

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:56:44 UTC No. 16122616

>>16122609
>China is on par with Zimbabwe now
So you do think China is trustworthy to a degree? How do YOU decide what to believe, then? When are they trustworthy and when are they obviously lying?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:57:54 UTC No. 16122618

>>16122612
Sure m8
How do you feel about Jews btw

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:03:12 UTC No. 16122631

>>16122614
No interpretation needed, it's old science and there isn't really too much you have to understand. The data is clear cut, even the heritability of it is greater than height. I get being pissy about trying to quantize intelligence like we understand it, but it's the one number you can use to predict so many things about an individual or a population.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:03:13 UTC No. 16122632

>>16122616
To a degree, yes. I trust them, when there's no motive for them to lie or when they can't possibly do it. They lie whenever they think they can get away with it and when it pays off politically.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:04:33 UTC No. 16122637

>>16122618
They have to much influence in the US. Other than that, I don't care about them.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:05:48 UTC No. 16122639

>>16122632
That seems like a convenient excuse for their political opponents to be able to declare anything they say a lie.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:06:49 UTC No. 16122640

>>16122637
You don't even realise what a stereotype you are.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:09:13 UTC No. 16122645

>>16122640
You think US backing for Israel's actions in the Gaza strip is fair and balanced?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:10:36 UTC No. 16122649

>>16122612
>you should just stop thinking in stereotypes and accept that people are more complex than you give them credit for
>btw blacks are inherently stupid and violent, and there's no possible explanation for this beyond genetic inferiority

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:11:13 UTC No. 16122650

>>16122639
Do you have a standard to discern what statistics to trust and which not? Propose a one that's better, if you can.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:12:40 UTC No. 16122652

>>16122649
You're just confirming what I said about you with this.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:14:54 UTC No. 16122655

>>16122645
I think you conflating "Jews" and "Israel" is very in character

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:20:47 UTC No. 16122660

>>16122602
If you identify with any given ideology you're just letting other people do the thinking for you. You're taking a position not because it is logical to you, but because of who agrees with it, which means that you're really just seeking social prestige like a little bitch. If I was American (since the original post assumes American political discourse) I would vote third-party, which would statistically make me quite unique.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:21:24 UTC No. 16122662

>>16122655
Israel is a Zionist project, Israeli citizens in the US are predominantly Jews. So do you think US backing for Israel's actions in the Gaza strip is fair and balanced?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:26:18 UTC No. 16122670

>be smart
>invite low iq shitskins into your cunt
>whole country gets fucked into ass
>blame socioeconomic factor


Ah yes the plight of intelligence. How unforeseeable consequences

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:27:30 UTC No. 16122672

>>16122660
You're projecting, sheep. Just because you can only prevent getting swept up in something is by divesting yourself from it entirely that doesn't mean other people aren't able to align themselves with a cause after careful deliberation. Now, would you vote third party because you can think of a party that agrees with you? Or is it just because you're a mindless contrarian?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:29:34 UTC No. 16122673

>>16122672
>Americans can't fathom a multi-party system
many such cases

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:31:46 UTC No. 16122676

>>16122673
What are you babbling about, sheep? Answer the question. Is there a specific third party that you would vote or are you just generally determined to vote "third party" out of contrarianism?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:33:49 UTC No. 16122679

>le democrat
>le republican
>le right
>le left
The actual right wing are monarchist, religious, nationalist, and conservative.

Why do these political definitions get so warped compared to their origins?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:36:44 UTC No. 16122684

>>16122679
>Why do these political definitions get so warped compared to their origins?
Because that's how colloquialisms work?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:37:57 UTC No. 16122689

>>16122684
Now explain how the term liberal became completely flipped?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:41:37 UTC No. 16122696

>>16122662
No, but that wasn't the question

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:42:20 UTC No. 16122700

>>16122258
Use your brain, if you're so educated you should be able to figure this out.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:42:38 UTC No. 16122701

>>16122689
It didn't, the American Overton window is just fucked. Liberalism is still the same, it's only "relatively" left.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:46:42 UTC No. 16122706

>>16122700
Conservative magical worldviews are in conflict with higher levels of education?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:47:14 UTC No. 16122707

>>16122696
Why only does the US support Israel, if what it does is obviously reprehensible? Why only is there no in-depth, critical reporting on it? Hm, I really don't know, anon. But if you ask me, it looks like they've got somewhat of an influence on the US.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:47:36 UTC No. 16122709

>>16122672
Brother, whatever cause you follow was probably started by some dude in the 19th century. Don't you think that maybe he got some things wrong? And I'm not getting divested from shit -- over the years, I have found myself agreeing on some things with conservatives, liberals and socialists. In the latest election cycle I would have probably voted for Jorgensen, even though I hold political positions that would instantly disqualify me from being a libertarian. I simply agreed with her on more positions then any other candidate.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:49:41 UTC No. 16122711

>>16122707
Israel, you mean. But that's not what you said. And if you continue to stand by what you said I'm going to have to assume that maybe you actually meant what you said.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:54:02 UTC No. 16122719

>>16122701
Objectively incorrect.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:58:43 UTC No. 16122727

>>16122711
What is this? Some poor attempt at a gotcha. Okay, I reword it for you so that it's 100% clear what I mean, since you're unable to process the nuances of human language apparently (perhaps a consequence of internalized black-white stereotypical thinking):
>I believe Jews in the form of Zionists - meaning right-wing nationalists supporting the state of Israel - have too much influence in the US gvmt and culture

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:02:10 UTC No. 16122733

>>16122727
You mean "some Jews" right?
You're still quite bad at this nuance thing. Maybe you got some programming of your own still left to shake.
Maybe if you didn't answer a question about your opinion on "the Jews" with a loudmouthed "yes, I do have opinions on the Jews!" in the first place then you wouldn't have had to dig yourself out of this hole.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:12:55 UTC No. 16122741

>>16122204
Engineering is hands on and much more unforgiving with useless academic wankers than "theoretical" fields where people base their contributions on the number of papers published and journals they work with ("work" being useless shit like reading a billion useless papers that never achieve anything) instead of on whether they actually do something in the real world.
It's also depressing seeing biology's position because it reminds me how the field is crawling with people who put politics over science and who believe in memorizing and regurgitating factoids wiki style instead of actually doing stuff.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:16:27 UTC No. 16122747

>>16122741
>Engineering is hands on
Yeah, unlike the arts, which are exclusively hands-off.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:17:35 UTC No. 16122752

>>16122204
The empathy aspects of liberalism is lost on the autist. Color me surprised.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:17:54 UTC No. 16122754

>>16122741
Memorising and regurgitating is precisely what engineers are required to do. Learn the rule and apply it. Maybe that's why they lean more conservative than fields where you have to think critically.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:26:07 UTC No. 16122766

>>16122747
If they fuck up how many people can die?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:29:44 UTC No. 16122777

>>16122766
Six million

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:37:33 UTC No. 16122786

>>16122766
Engineers fuck up all the time without people dying. In fact, the vast majority of engineering has fuck all to do with life or death situations. Especially software engineering lmao.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:54:04 UTC No. 16122809

>>16122786
Yeah bro, that’s why engineers don’t have to be licensed to design things. Oops they totally do or else your water gets poisoned or entire apartment buildings are vaporized by a boiler explosion. You are fucking retarded if you don’t understand how much of the day to day mundane shit could kill you.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:57:33 UTC No. 16122817

>>16122786
>thinking software engineers are included in "engineering" on a list that also includes "computers"
You might be retarded. You don't get a degree in software engineering at the engineering college, you get a computer science degree and become a software engineer later.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:58:58 UTC No. 16122819

>>16122754
lol real life will often challenge theory and require you to adapt on the spot, thinking you can always copy paste some textbook instructions is a very easy way of knowing you've never dealt with projects of that nature
Meanwhile look at how many useless papers with shit like systematic reviews there are out there, nothing but a vehicle to inflate the CV of useless people. Academia is morally bankrupt but at least engineering requires you to do something in real life instead of only writing about concepts that are never really applied (or if they are they're mostly not useful enough to justify the time investment)

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:01:41 UTC No. 16122826

>>16122817
I hadn't considered that: maybe ITT there's idiots who think of some JS pajeet when someone mentions "engineer". And even when talking about software they're not thinking about people working with embedded applications, vital network infrastructure, etc. It's just not trendy, they think of the trendy tiktokers whose job is blogging about their salad buffet.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:02:16 UTC No. 16122828

>>16122817
What I said is also true for mechanical and electrical engineers. If the people who designed your shitty TV fuck up, you just get a refund.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:07:17 UTC No. 16122846

>>16122828
A mechanical engineer fucking up can mean you suffering a lethal car accident. An electrical engineer fucking up can mean the local energy station blowing up. Maybe one day you'll find out these specialties have several sub-areas themselves.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:08:50 UTC No. 16122849

>>16122828
>fuck up designing TV
>it catches fire and burns your house down

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:10:45 UTC No. 16122852

>>16122846
>A mechanical engineer fucking up can mean you suffering a lethal car accident. An electrical engineer fucking up can mean the local energy station blowing up.
When did I say otherwise? Did you respond to the wrong post?
>>16122849
Really reaching there, anon.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:11:14 UTC No. 16122853

Im not american but i will say that in my third world university i saw the same thing with engineering areas. The professors were different because they orbited around industry, their discipline faces industry and it inherits its culture. Everyone else is an "ivory tower" type of academic, the ones that engage with industry need to support free markets, free trade, self-regulation and all the associated cultural baggage like bowties.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:12:45 UTC No. 16122855

>>16122852
Old crt tvs could literally irradiate you to death.
you have no concept of how much of your life is in the hands of an engineer not fucking up

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:14:07 UTC No. 16122856

>>16122853
Also, the engineers have options and can afford to be dissidents, their options are to work in industry but everyone else has to adopt the university culture or fear being fired or discriminated

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:19:18 UTC No. 16122864

>>16122855
>Old crt tvs could literally irradiate you to death.
This is made up bullshit, btw. CRTs have never emitted enough radiation to cause any health problems, even if one happened to be colossally defective and you were directly exposed directly to the leaking x-rays.

🗑️ bodhi at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:19:20 UTC No. 16122865

>>16122204
the more "practical" one is the less likely they are going to associate with bleeding heart retards

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:25:08 UTC No. 16122871

>>16122865
I dunno how you didn't notice the chart in the OP, but it shows that there are still more "bleeding heart retards" in engineering than otherwise.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:25:48 UTC No. 16122873

>>16122864
because engineers made them safe. because that's the point of what engineers do they take practical problems try to proviide a solution and figure out ways to make it an acceptable risk.
Why don't you understand this?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:26:49 UTC No. 16122877

>>16122871
read the chart, it's a survey of engineering professors not actual engineers

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:28:05 UTC No. 16122881

>>16122864
>even if one happened to be colossally defective and you were directly exposed directly to the leaking x-rays.
Because the electron gun itself was still calibrated such that it didn't give you radiation poisoning, thanks to engineers doing their jobs correctly.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:33:16 UTC No. 16122890

>>16122204
My theory is that the it has something to do with the style of thinking that engineering promotes. A civil engineer doesn't perfectly calculate how wind, shifting loads, etc interact. They break the problem down into its simplest (most important) components, get a good estimate, and then multiply everything by 10 or whatever to be safe. On the one hand its a practical way to solve problems, on the other you discard a lot of nuance
>>16122856
By that logic compsci and biochem professors would be more right wing (although they relatively sort of are.)

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:34:53 UTC No. 16122893

>>16122204
break it down by sub department

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:03:12 UTC No. 16122953

>>16122852
It’s not reaching in the slightest. Licensure exists for a good reason because 100 or something years ago when the profession wasn’t regulated, entire city blocks were being destroyed. I am a licensed engineer and guess what? I don’t get paid to actually design anything, I get paid to take the blame if it kills someone. That’s my job. We have CAD monkeys and brownoids in some turd world shit hole doing the drawings and design, I mark it up and make sure it’s safe. That’s it.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:08:35 UTC No. 16122960

>>16122828
That's the style of thinking that led to every Chinese rekt video I've ever seen

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:47:08 UTC No. 16123039

>>16122482
>the entirety of America is right of Marx by a long shot
you're aware that this is objectively a good thing, right

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:19:42 UTC No. 16123108

>>16122960
So what you're saying is that engineering kills people without strong government regulation.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:23:53 UTC No. 16123119

>>16122358
except when your organization has 7 layers of management and final responsibility get completely diluted

🗑️ bodhi at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:30:23 UTC No. 16123128

>>16122877
yes but this doesnt fit my narrative so like leftists I will reject it

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:31:11 UTC No. 16123129

>>16123108
If only China had regulations.

Then again China had a nearly nine figure death toll of its own citizens with no engineering of any kind lol, all it takes to rekt all of China is a 'strong' chinese government and some farmers.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:34:35 UTC No. 16123133

>>16123129
those poor starlings

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:37:11 UTC No. 16123139

>>16123039
No one claimed otherwise. Stop trying to deflect.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:40:18 UTC No. 16123800

>>16122204
Inevitable result of government funding of education is that the big government party will be most popular amongst academics

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:59:37 UTC No. 16123820

>>16122217
Cognitive inflexibility is a hallmark of low general intelligence. Which is why you can’t argue with these people and try to convince or make them “understand” differing point of view (as in why they’re arguing what they’re arguing and form a moderate opinion of their own).

You see this with extremists on both ends of the spectrum. Far-left is as retarded far-right. One end want trannies to enter into little girl’s bathrooms and legalize pedophilia, the other end is racist bigots. You can go in /pol/ and witness one side yourself. They exhibit high cognitive inflexibility and we can deduce their general intelligence. They lack ability to form coherent well thought sentences and usually have 4 racial slurs in a 10 word sentence. 8/10 time it’s either kike or nigger. You can find example for the other end as well on different websites (masterdone, etc.).

Intelligent individuals aren’t overly political. They aren’t bigots. They aren’t inflexible. If they’re overly political (meaning spends significant time online or in-person talking about political stuff or candidates), it would be for their own personal gain, or they just seem like intelligent but aren’t.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:05:28 UTC No. 16123828

All the stem degrees are more right leaning
Almost like successfully confronting reality requires you to not be a total ideologue

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:40:59 UTC No. 16123862

>>16122204
>2018
imagine how much worse it is now

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:03:34 UTC No. 16123969

>>16122391
I an making hyperbole to illustrate the fact that OP cannot deal with people having beliefs outside their extremely left leaning views.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:07:07 UTC No. 16123972

>>16122204
>Why are engineers chuddy af?
Engineering is the application of theory to reality.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:13:19 UTC No. 16123978

>>16122817
>You might be retarded. You don't get a degree in software engineering at the engineering college, you get a computer science degree and become a software engineer later.
My Computer Engineering degree, which is essentially 85% of an Electrical Engineering degree and allowed for a Computer Science minor with merely 1 extra course, disagrees.
However, you would be correct to say most "software engineers" are misnomers who don't know fuck about engineering.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:18:25 UTC No. 16123984

>>16123820
>Intelligent individuals aren’t overly political. They aren’t bigots. They aren’t inflexible.
This is midwit on steroids. One day you've read, listened and thought enough. Then you lament like Ecclesiastes and besides nothing new under the sun you realize that God is not logic, reason or dialogue but power.

Print my post on quality paper, put a golden frame around it and hang it on the opposite side of your bed so you can look at it every morning and night. People who say: ''it's them and they must be eradicated'' are the alpha and the omega, the dumbest and the smarted, the ultimate truth of our existence. There never was any other game then ''might makes right''.

You reasonableness will be your downfall.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:05:20 UTC No. 16124038

>>16122429
saved

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:06:21 UTC No. 16124040

>>16122385
But improbable. Normalfags don't know what a spectrum is.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:21:45 UTC No. 16124066

>>16122385
>>16124040
No one even agrees what left and right mean, as seen in >>16122490

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:53:24 UTC No. 16124098

>>16124066
Yeah, I don't know what really distinguishes them.
>left
An individual is the product of its environment, therefore we should focus our effort on improving said environment by making things equal for all. A great society is a free society.
>right
Individuals are responsible and have free-will, therefore society is a reflection of all individuals in it. Individuals, whether they're better off than others or not, have the duty to improve themselves and society. A great society is ordered.

Did I get that right?

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:06:49 UTC No. 16124172

>>16122204
Intelligence. Leftism is a midwit trap.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:09:53 UTC No. 16124177

>>16124172
Then why are the majority of engineers on the chart leftists?

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:14:40 UTC No. 16124181

>>16124177
The majority of all people are less intelligent.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:21:46 UTC No. 16124193

>>16124181
That's not really how proportionality works.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:23:41 UTC No. 16124200

>>16124177
Those are engineering professors which doesn't represent the political views of all engineers.

Lean how to read.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:26:11 UTC No. 16124203

>The majority of all people are less intelligent.
>That's not really how proportionality works.
If you're not joking then this con-versation looks like a scientist.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:27:53 UTC No. 16124211

>>16122261
even sampling aside, its definitely possible if they are running extensive background checks. voting records are public and it certainly shows up in software used for more extensive bg checks (ie lexisnexis products)

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:53:46 UTC No. 16124245

>>16124200
>Those are engineering professors which doesn't represent the political views of all engineers.
What does the chart have to do with the OP's post, then?
>Lean how to read.
I did read. The OP's post asks a question unrelated to professors.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:55:12 UTC No. 16124249

>>16124200
What are the political views of non-teaching engineers, then? Is there data on that?

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:38:25 UTC No. 16124392

>>16122204
if we suppose democrats use more baseless emotional arguments than republicans, then it makes sense that a person that can discern a discourse's quality would avoid it

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:43:51 UTC No. 16124475

>>16122817
I'm a programmer with a systems engineering degree from an engineering university (UTN, Argentina).
But yeah, 99% of "software" engineers have no education whatsoever.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 18:06:55 UTC No. 16124522

>>16122234
This.
I would add that the chart is about professors. Top specialists in all of those fields wouldn't be wasting their time in academia. So even those engineers are the bottom of the barrel.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:48:33 UTC No. 16124637

>>16123828
You’re a retard

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 00:58:58 UTC No. 16124936

>>16122204
>those who can't do, teach
Engineering is the only profession were "doing" is so much of a pain in the ass that you'd rather give it all up and go teach

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 01:06:08 UTC No. 16124943

being an engineer nowadays just means you get paid to get nagged to death by boomers in their 60s for not knowing everything

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 01:36:42 UTC No. 16124964

>>16122204
Because we need to be skeptical of claims of authority and willing to work out the math for ourselves in order to do our job properly. If we take it on faith that someone else has done it right and the science is settled, people will die. We don't have the luxury of pretending things work as well as they do on paper.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 03:11:09 UTC No. 16125032

>>16122258
All of the easier disciplines in this graph are left leaning, red percentage increases with rigor of specialty.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 03:19:40 UTC No. 16125037

>>16125032
But engineering is left leaning too? It's just less left leaning than other academic disciplines (which isnt much of an accomplishment).

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 04:18:46 UTC No. 16125087

>>16125037
Engineering in general is still a left-leaning field. Civil Engineers and Environmental Engineers vote overwhelmingly democrat, whereas it's split among Electrical, Mechanical, Computer, or Chemical Engineers.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:34:54 UTC No. 16125639

>>16124964
>Because we need to be skeptical of claims of authority
Then why are chuds so overwhelmingly religious? God is the ultimate authority claim and they aren't skeptical about that at all lol

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:49:22 UTC No. 16125660

>>16122584
Interesting how you do the exact opposite

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:16:45 UTC No. 16125698

>>16125639
I can't speak for others. Generally engineers (in my experience, take that for what you will) are either scientific materialists (which means they are in effect atheists) or have the same sort of "well ordered universe" implicitly Christian metaphysic in mind that theoretical physicists typically believe in.

I'd like to believe in a God, but unfortunately I don't and I'm not willing to pretend I do.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:19:51 UTC No. 16125702

>>16125698
I would pretend to believe in a god if it allows me to get nepotism rewards from a church congregation

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:34:31 UTC No. 16125739

>>16125698
>I'd like to believe in a God, but unfortunately I don't and I'm not willing to pretend I do.
The only thing appealing about God is the eternal bliss afterlife part. Having a sky dictator who's constantly judging you over bullshit sounds fucking terrible.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:42:17 UTC No. 16125754

>>16125739
For me it has nothing to do with death or an afterlife or any of this. I want to believe in a world where there is some sort of universal truth and the world isn't just this inscrutable miasma of material and immaterial ether. As it stands our best hope is to establish something like "true on the average" and accept that causality and determinism will always be nebulous at best.

To me, believing in God is believing that there is some ordering of this universe which makes causality and determinism tractable rather than forever banished to the platonic realm of only existing on paper.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:43:00 UTC No. 16125756

>>16122527
>Rural areas have basically nothing that would interest criminal minded people
they have one thing: Low cop density
thats why ruralites are encouraged to carry weapons, its near anarchy in the fields

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:59:02 UTC No. 16125776

>>16122655
>I think you conflating "Jews" and "Israel" is very in character
They have over 99% overlapping
Practically all modern jews that still identify as jews and are not fully assimilated engage on the reg with jewish authorites such as synagogues, jew social clubs, jew high school and many others. These institutions are fully squared with Israel. Zionism is drilled into jew kids since kindergarten.
Jews cant live for very long as independent jews with their own worldview, they live in communities and these communities are linked to israel.
An exception to this would be in some haredi sects that run parallel systems under the independent leadership of their rebbes
The bulk of american jews irl have been taught under the tought leadership of Yeshiva University, which has acted as a rabbi factory. They are ideologically in tune with nationalist judaism streams from the west bank

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:10:49 UTC No. 16125800

>>16122204
>62% Democrat
>wow, why are they so Republican?

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:17:53 UTC No. 16125815

>>16123820
>Intelligent individuals aren’t overly political.
Yes I am. You need to be more cognitively flexible and let go of your prejudices.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:21:32 UTC No. 16125828

>>16123969
How have you illustrated that with your strawman, exactly?

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:22:45 UTC No. 16125836

>>16125776
>They have over 99% overlapping
[citation sorely needed]

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:23:33 UTC No. 16125840

>>16122258
Educated people believe whatever they were taught. People educated at Christian universities think the Earth is 10k years old. People educated in Western universities also come out with predictable beliefs. Even in community colleges, it's common and acceptable for professors to bitch about white men and talk politics. I have personally witnessed this in several places and heard it from others IRL.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:26:02 UTC No. 16125844

>>16125840
>People educated in Western universities also come out with predictable beliefs. Even in community colleges, it's common and acceptable for professors to bitch about white men and talk politics.
Don't take gender studies next time

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:34:01 UTC No. 16125856

>>16125840
This is a childishly oversimplistic understanding of education and academia.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:39:37 UTC No. 16125868

>>16122204
>>16122258
True
All of these really are the tard sectors at the top

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:41:45 UTC No. 16125875

>>16122499
You're*
Also reported

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:44:46 UTC No. 16125879

>>16122660
>ople do the thinking for you. You're taking a position not because it is logical to you, but because of who agrees with it, which means that you're really just seeking social prestige like a little bitch.
People need to band in groups to have any power at all. When this gets intense enough it leads to polarization, only two worldviews remain, one has to join one of them.
The point of belonging is safety and power, not about being right about your personal beliefs.
>bitch
how immature

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:46:40 UTC No. 16125882

>>16125836
Israel=Zionist
mainstream orthordox union american judaism=zionist
hassidic sects=zionist
non hassidic haredi jews=zionists, except for neturei karta
That easily covers over 99% of jews

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:51:27 UTC No. 16125889

>>16125882
41% of American Jews has no attachment to Israel. 22% believe the US is too supportive of Israel. 16% say that caring about Israel is not important to being a Jew.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/u-s-jews-connections-with-and-attitudes-toward-israel/

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:08:38 UTC No. 16125915

>>16125836
My favorite groyper told me.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 17:15:08 UTC No. 16125925

>>16125844
I was in STEM.

>>16125856
are you really trying to say that people can't be educated to believe certain things and behave in certain patterns? Or do you have reading problems? Isn't it strange how different educations lead typically to different ideologies afterward, various standards of what's normal and what's strange? You must be stupid if you think going to college in China leads to the same political views as a college in America

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:05:49 UTC No. 16125997

>>16125925
>are you really trying to say that people can't be educated to believe certain things and behave in certain patterns?
Is that what I wrote?
>Or do you have reading problems?
Do you?

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:47:38 UTC No. 16126033

>>16123820
Not having strong political convictions is a hallmark of low intelligence, not extremism. You're confusing extremism with dogmatism. If you look at something in the world and can't think of a way in which it should be different, you're a moron. To be constantly thinking of ways in which society needs to change is to be both "overly" political and intelligent.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:54:37 UTC No. 16126039

>>16125889
>41% of American Jews has no attachment to Israel.
These are assimilated quadroon "jews" that celebrate Christmas and easter. They have never been to a synagogue, never studied torah or hebrew and only have some jew grandpa that died before they were born. They turn into jews when they need their israeli passport or their nepotistic help into getting access to a university or government organization.
Any jew that has the slightest belonging to a jewish community (synagogie, schools, clubs) is completely dominated by israel concerns.

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 18:56:19 UTC No. 16126040

>>16126033
>Not having strong political convictions
Are you conflating strong convictions with political extremism?

bodhi at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:33:56 UTC No. 16126101

>>16122521
What is the order of operations for those parentheses?

You should be able to solve this!

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:35:12 UTC No. 16126107

>>16123820
any more of this semen hoarder?

bodhi at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:45:49 UTC No. 16126131

>>16122258
This is a motte and bailey deceptive argumentation style leftists always use. "Leaning left" is not a communist or modern leftist. Left leaning means you support social security, unemployment assistance, unions and other kinds of social programs. Also all of this data is highly outdated as the terms "liberal" and "left" themselves completely changed in 2016 when the "trantifa left" emerged and took over discourse on twatter. All those people in the chart who "lean left" hate retarded leftist troons like you just as much as conservatives. I voted Democrat my entire life because I can't stand the Christian right. However since 2016 I am apparently a "nazi" because I dont support flooding my country with unlimited brown people with double digit IQs or trooning kids and can actually define what a woman is. The tldr is what that chart defines as "left leaning" are still "nazis" to fuckwits like you if you questions their actual views on policies. You troons at like they are on your team whenever it suits your narrative however.

>see all these people agree with you you are the outlier!
>everything in this country is racist, sexist, homophobic fascism!

You cant make both of these claims at the same time mouth breather. All the institutions you claim are these bad things are run the people you will claim are your political allies ... they ain't

bodhi at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:47:59 UTC No. 16126134

>>16126131
see all these people agree with *me* you are the outlier!

bodhi at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 19:51:47 UTC No. 16126145

>>16126131
>The tldr is what that chart defines as "left leaning" are still "nazis" to fuckwits like you if you questions their actual views on policies
A perfect example this btw is JK Rowling, bitch is as hard left as you can be but troons, being the mentally ill retards that they are, call her a "right wing nazi" top kek

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Apr 2024 20:22:42 UTC No. 16126191

>>16126040
No, >>16123820 did so by using "overly political" and "extremist" interchangeably.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 13 Apr 2024 04:50:11 UTC No. 16126801

>>16125889
>41% of American Jews lied too a pollster

Anonymous at Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:26:43 UTC No. 16126853

>>16122258
High IQ people who have become alienated from the material world and their own animal nature. It should be obvious why engineers buck the trend.
I predict that democrat engineers also tend to be more moderate than democrat professors in other fields.

Anonymous at Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:53:45 UTC No. 16126865

>>16122204
>all this rationalization and sophistry
nice natural sciences and math board, faggots.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:07:40 UTC No. 16127941

>>16126865
Nobody is forcing you to post here, if you don't like /sci/ you're free to leave. Goodbye, you won't be missed

Anonymous at Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:21:52 UTC No. 16127956

>>16122204
Touching grass makes you more human

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 14 Apr 2024 23:59:50 UTC No. 16129349

>>16125639
Ernest Jones, in 1913, was the first to construe extreme narcissism, which he called the "God-complex", as a character flaw. He described people with God-complex as being aloof, self-important, overconfident, auto-erotic, inaccessible, self-admiring, and exhibitionistic, with fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience. He observed that these people had a high need for uniqueness.

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:02:19 UTC No. 16129351

>>16129349
Ok. And?

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:03:51 UTC No. 16129355

>>16122429
What crime did Trump commit? LMAO. Whatever crime Trump is said to have commited, I can assure you Biden is 2-3X worse. Trump's got slurpy words as well. However Biden's a goner, so its leagues apart.

I voted neither of the two guys

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:06:51 UTC No. 16129359

>>16129351
You wanna see something? Search the archives for "Ernest Jones". Then consider that perhaps Anon simply really likes to hear himself talk and may have learnt about the history of extreme narcissism directly from a therapist.

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:07:52 UTC No. 16129362

>>16126131
Having a manic episode?

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:14:49 UTC No. 16129371

>>16126039
No, actually, if you click through, then you can find that "people of Jewish background" were excluded from this part of the report, and that furthermore, among non-religious Jews, that statistic is actually 67%.

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:22:39 UTC No. 16129380

>>16129355
Good job failing to understand my post so thoroughly.

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 01:13:35 UTC No. 16129438

>>16122204
> % Democrat
> % Republican
> No % non-Jewish/nonpartisan

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 03:33:26 UTC No. 16129556

>>16122236
If you don't support transitiong toddlers leftists will consider you right wing.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 11:41:49 UTC No. 16129961

>>16129556
thats because they're so open minded and accepting of diverse opinions and ways of life

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 11:50:44 UTC No. 16129974

>>16122208
>the less tranny the degree is
>political science higher than biology

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 12:30:59 UTC No. 16130027

>>16122430
republicoblins angry bc their shit states don’t have any money

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 12:33:41 UTC No. 16130032

>>16129961
Diversity must necessarily oppose its antithesis, yes

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:08:51 UTC No. 16130055

>>16123820
SOURCE

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:43:24 UTC No. 16130871

>>16130027
>>>/pol/

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 16 Apr 2024 21:11:40 UTC No. 16132128

>>16126039
atheist jews are the worst ones

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:26:18 UTC No. 16133406

>>16130032
>"diversity" = "things that I like"

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:59:36 UTC No. 16134125

>>16133406
Thats how the white genocide scheme works. They make up a million lies and excuses in order to get their way all while constantly whittling away until one day the genocide is complete

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Apr 2024 06:28:24 UTC No. 16134150

>>16122204

NPR claims to represent a balanced representation of the different political ideologies.
100% of the editorial staff belongs to the Democratic Party.

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:30:37 UTC No. 16134250

>>16134125
Whereas when whites want to genocide people they just start putting them into camps. Once again whites are just so much better huh

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:31:38 UTC No. 16134252

>>16134150
Every single Republican is unbalanced

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:00:23 UTC No. 16135239

>>16134252
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:24:04 UTC No. 16135267

>>16134250
>still believing the hoaxocaust actually happened

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 00:49:09 UTC No. 16135293

>>16122534
Lol that map again. Go look at a map of Black and Native American populations by county.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:37:55 UTC No. 16135339

>>16135239

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:40:34 UTC No. 16135342

>>16135239
>>16122462

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:50:03 UTC No. 16135347

>>16135342
>I support none of the politicians or parties in this country.
>Heh, I knew you were a Republican.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:54:49 UTC No. 16135351

>>16135347
>don't show up on voting day because too stupid to understand how democracy works
>unironically think a politician will show up someday that I align with 100%
>also believe in leprechauns and rainbows
>Biden wins the presidency
I'm doing my part!

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:06:52 UTC No. 16135360

>>16135351
I understand perfectly how democracy works. Everyone goes to the polls and presses buttons on computers running closed source voting software and then they announce a winner while super-duper pinkie swearing the closed source software is totally tamper proof. Then the country gets fucked in the ass for 4 years, then we repeat the process and get fucked in the mouth this time while everyone claps because they got fucked in a different hole than before.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:16:02 UTC No. 16135372

>>16129974
There's an absurd amount of jeets and other 3rd world aristocrat spawn pursuing poli sci to then go back to their countries and get a nepobaby "consultant" job.
Of course, this hypothesis will make no sense if the survey ruled out non-americans.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:35:25 UTC No. 16135389

>>16135360
Yes anon, you're in on the big secret and everyone else is just wading through the fog. If only everyone were as smart as you, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:36:57 UTC No. 16135391

>>16135389
>If only everyone were as smart as you, we wouldn't be in this mess.
NTA, but yes almost certainly

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:42:29 UTC No. 16135398

>>16135389
Thank you for the compliment, but I never said any of those things.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 04:35:21 UTC No. 16135474

>>16135398
>gets called a narcissist
>"thank you for the compliment"
kek

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 04:36:17 UTC No. 16135475

>>16135474
NTA but that's genuinely based behavior on his part.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 04:39:25 UTC No. 16135476

>>16135475
No it isn't, it's pathetic.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:47:15 UTC No. 16135519

>>16122429
If someone votes left then they support baby murder and are evil.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:47:30 UTC No. 16135521

>>16135474
That makes perfect sense. Think of him as saying
>Thank you for paying attention to me. As a narcissist, this is just what I want.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 06:27:04 UTC No. 16135550

>>16122292

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 13:12:28 UTC No. 16135858

>>16135474
Try reading the rest of the sentence.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:41:59 UTC No. 16135916

>>16135519
As opposed to voting right and supporting actual murder, which is good, actually

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:43:45 UTC No. 16135918

>>16135239
You are such a dishonest little shit.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 16:15:53 UTC No. 16135993

>>16123984
How do you exert your power, personally?

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:41:21 UTC No. 16136128

>>16122495
Fox news is left wing??? There is no proper right wing in this country.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:45:55 UTC No. 16136134

>>16136128
>Fox news is left wing
Do stupid people actually believe this?

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 18:10:06 UTC No. 16136164

>>16129371
It is impossible to belong to any jewish organization without being a zionist. Because all the activities are based around Israel. Non-zionists would be repulsed and leave. Theres many jews like that, that just walk away from judaism.
>>16132128
They are more assimilated than atheist, as is normal and healthy. The typical jew from a shtetl wanted to assimilate and be like other europeans, but they were kept on a leash by a rabbi and they had no civil rights, as soon as Napoleon gave jews civil rights they started to intermarry and live as goyim, with a diminishing attachment to jew customs. Unironically zionism appeared as a secular update to judaism, as a movement that could be attractive for jews to belong to, this happened because jews were abandoning religion too fast, leading to an identity crisis.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 18:14:56 UTC No. 16136171

>>16136128
Not unless there are monarchists in america then no there is no right wing

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 18:45:27 UTC No. 16136223

>>16136171
How can right wing mean monarchism in a country that was wholly founded on flipping the bird to monarchy? Do you not understand that left and right are relative and they don't mean the same thing in the US as they do in Europe?

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:17:30 UTC No. 16136287

>>16122510
>person in question

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:21:48 UTC No. 16136291

>>16122510
Maybe if every person who claims to be trying to avoid dogmatic affiliations isn't voitng for you, you should take it as a sign of how unappealing and illogical your views are.

Ever thought of that, faggot?

>if all the people who were previously uncommitted to my party are now openly agains my party, that must mean they were all brainwashed, not me though
>I'm right, therefore any evidence that I'm worng must be able to be disproven, or else I'd be wrong, when I know for a fact that I'm right
Just circular reasoning, you are a retard.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:16:27 UTC No. 16136365

>>16136223
It's just what the right wing means. Look at the history of the term.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:39:29 UTC No. 16136387

>>16135916
>As opposed to voting right and supporting actual murder
You are mentally retarded.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:43:03 UTC No. 16136392

>>16136365
I looked up the definition and got pic related. So again, it's relative.
Even Wikipedia doesn't conflate right-wing politics with monarchism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
>Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position based on natural law, economics, authority, property, religion, biology or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences or competition in market economies.
Hierarchy? Yes. Monarchy? Not necessarily.
There's a list of positions and none of them are "pro-monarchy" explicitly. The section on the "anti-communist" position of right-wing politics mentions how communism was at odds with monarchies in history and that placed conservative elements on the side of the monarchies against communism in those times, but that's it. No mention of any pro-monarchy position inherent to right-wing politics, least of all in the United States.

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 21:05:31 UTC No. 16136421

>>16135339
Peak reddit.
Btw, fascism is based tho

Anonymous at Fri, 19 Apr 2024 21:08:49 UTC No. 16136428

>>16122208
is chud still used word?

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 09:16:50 UTC No. 16137099

>>16136365
In that context the opposite of right is wrong, not left

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:39:18 UTC No. 16137133

>>16136387
That would make me eligible for murder to right-wingers.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:40:19 UTC No. 16137135

>>16136134
No, they're disingenuous fascists playing with words.

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:41:21 UTC No. 16137137

>>16136291
But you're not "not voting for them", you're voting for the opposition. You are blatantly taking a side whilst loudly exclaiming how neutral you are. Your very premise is dishonest.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 03:39:12 UTC No. 16138343

>>16122210

Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:24:14 UTC No. 16138590

>>16122236
>>16138343
Case in point lol
Ben Garrison's political affiliations aren't exactly a secret

Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:25:16 UTC No. 16138591

>>16122210
That's why I'm a communist, the only viable alternative to Capitalism and Capitalism with Rainbows.

Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:35:57 UTC No. 16138987

>>16138590
>i know them because of my schizo bicameral headcannon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:43:09 UTC No. 16139888

>>16138987
LMAO when ppl leap to the conclusion that Zyklon Ben is a Republicuck

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:44:57 UTC No. 16141355

>>16137099
They use "left" instead of "wrong" for the same reason they use "MAP" instead of "pedophile"

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:06:01 UTC No. 16142735

>>16141355
because of their own guilty consciences?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:53:20 UTC No. 16142831

>>16136392
No one gives a fuck what faggot leftist wikipedia editors think. You even quoting wikipedia here shows that you're trolling.
But for the lurkers, hierarchical forms of government implicitly means monarchy. It's the logical conclusion.

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:23:53 UTC No. 16143339

>>16122204
The problem with this is there’s a huge variance within both parties. A hardcore communist and a neoliberal centrist may both vote Democrat, but clearly these are different people. Also, things have shifted even more pro-Democrat than before due to Trump. Conservatives have given up on academia in favour of trade and commerce, which is a shame and is why so many academics are crazy.

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:32:44 UTC No. 16143344

Relevant: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/22/politics/democrat-republican-education-poll-women-pew-research-trnd

>The more educated you are, the more likely you are to have Democratic leanings, a new Pew Research survey shows. However, it wasn't always that way.

>The study, which is based on interviews with 10,000 registered American voters in 2017, shows voters with bachelors degrees are much more likely to identify with or lean towards the Democratic party.

>The poll found that 54% of college grads see themselves in some shade of blue, compared to 39% who identify with or lean towards the GOP.

>Remarkably, this is a perfect inversion of the way the parties were made up just 25 years ago.

>According to Pew, 54% of college grads identified with or leaned toward the Republican party in 1994; 39% did so with the Democratic party.

Anyone using these stats to prove one side is smarter is an obvious partisan hack.

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 21:50:35 UTC No. 16144345

>>16143344
Gen X was overwhelmingly more conservative than Gen Z is. Now it's more like 50/50. When you control for that, dems are indeed more likely to be smarter.

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 21:52:43 UTC No. 16144351

>>16135372
this is a survey of professors at american universities, though?

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 21:54:06 UTC No. 16144354

>>16122234
>unflinchingly logical
There's still a 3:2 majority in dems favor, though? And I wouldn't exactly call compsci, chemistry, biology or mathematics 'abstract' or 'illogical'

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 23:49:17 UTC No. 16144513

>>16138987
>>16139888
I believe what we have here is irony. Consider what has actually been said, and what your mind has supplied unprompted.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:52:56 UTC No. 16145161

>>16122471
Their body type evolved to scream louder in order to survive

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:33:23 UTC No. 16145437

>>16122471
>anyone expressing any form of "right-wing view" feels in threat of being socially ostracized
Lmao. Oh noooooo, I can't believe people would ostracize me based on what I say and believe. It's so unfair, help me mommy!

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:36:54 UTC No. 16145443

>>16122204
I wonder where Business sits on here.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:44:07 UTC No. 16145453

>>16145437
>I think we shouldn't have totally unregulated immigration.
>RACIST!
>I think kids shouldn't participate in drag shows.
>HOMOPHOBE!
>I think people should have the right to decide whether or not to have themselves or their children vaccinated.
>ANTI-SCIENCE GRANDMA KILLER!
When these are the "problematic" opinions that people can destroy your life over, there's a serious problem. There's a reason it's mainly literal baby boomers who publicly stand up for this stuff; it's not because there are no young people who agree, it's because the boomers are retired and don't have to worry about losing their jobs for holding a moderate opinion that the media labels as right-wing extremism.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 16:45:29 UTC No. 16145455

>>16145161
It's a viable strategy if you have a womb.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:29:27 UTC No. 16145500

>>16145453
>I deserve a medal for my insane strawman opinions
No one owes you anything. If you want to not be ostracized, start associating with other lunatics instead of people who hate you.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:37:06 UTC No. 16145516

>>16145453
The gaslighting is a constant battle my friend.
They try to make you think that you are the insane one.
It gts extremely tiring.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:11:45 UTC No. 16145574

>>16145500
The fact that you consider any of those opinions to be lunacy demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about and why I just keep my mouth shut any time politics are discussed at work.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:14:51 UTC No. 16145580

>>16122410
but it actually is the jews though

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:39:38 UTC No. 16145607

>>16145574
>The fact that you consider any of those opinions to be lunacy demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about
No it doesn't.
>and why I just keep my mouth shut any time politics are discussed at work.
It's because you are a coward who can't cope with the consequences of the shit you say.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:42:20 UTC No. 16145612

>>16122204
Both teachers and professors are retarded individuals who often know very little about life that any opinion they hold should be discarded.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:43:20 UTC No. 16145613

>>16145607
You don't seem to be human.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:43:34 UTC No. 16145614

>>16145607
Your lack of self-awareness would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:45:56 UTC No. 16145618

>>16142831
Just to shit on Wikipedia, the Oklahoma City Bombing is considered part of their Neo-Fascism series. Seems anti-government is now fascist to leftists. Kek.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:47:52 UTC No. 16145622

>>16145607
>No it doesn't.
It absolutely does.
>can't cope
Because you lose your livelihood for wanting some norms in society, not a butt fucking free for all.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:25:30 UTC No. 16145677

>>16145622
>Because you lose your livelihood for wanting some norms in society
Why should an employer be forced to hire you if they despise you?

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:29:50 UTC No. 16145684

>>16145618
>Oklahoma City Bombing
McVeigh and Nichols were both white supremacists. Not sure how you didn't know that.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:35:18 UTC No. 16145697

>>16145684
They were fucking CIA plants you honestly think a little truck bomb can blow a building to pieces like that and conveniently destroy all that evidence?

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:38:40 UTC No. 16145703

>>16145697
>They were fucking CIA plants
meds

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:42:48 UTC No. 16145709

>>16145677
Employers have every right to choose who they want to hire, and not hire. Every right to fire for any reason as well. The compromise here is that employers should be allowed to employ or not employ based on race, religion, etc. and do so deliberately. Otherwise you're opening a can of worms.
>>16145684
I know they were, but white supremacy is not exclusive to Neo-Fascism. They were libertarian/anarchists, and many of those are also white supremacists. If you are going to point to the turner diaries, the only relevant portion is the part regarding the bombing of the FBI building. I am just annoyed that anything right of full scale socialism is now Fascism. The further left people get, the more people will react. Fascism is a reaction to Communism, and I really don't want either.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:43:39 UTC No. 16145712

>>16122217
You're either for bigger government or smaller government. The former makes you objectively wrong.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 19:49:27 UTC No. 16145723

>>16145677
Do you think a business owner should be allowed to refuse to hire blacks as long as that business owner professes to despise them?

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:12:08 UTC No. 16145839

>>16145709
>employers should be allowed to employ or not employ based on race, religion, etc. and do so deliberately.
>>16145723
>Do you think a business owner should be allowed to refuse to hire blacks as long as that business owner professes to despise them?
Those are protected demographics of human, not individual political positions.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:14:00 UTC No. 16145843

>>16145709
>I am just annoyed that anything right of full scale socialism is now Fascism.
It isn't, that's a strawman you made up. No reasonable person thinks the Democratic party are fascists, despite being very far to the right of socialism.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:32:46 UTC No. 16145862

>>16145839
In your own words:
>Why should an employer be forced to hire you if they despise you?
You can't hold this position while also supporting the Civil Rights Act without being an unprincipled hypocrite.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:35:22 UTC No. 16145868

>>16145862
Of course you can. Your political beliefs aren't a race or ethnicity. Are you just pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:39:58 UTC No. 16145873

>>16145868
>Employers shouldn't be forced to hire someone they hate unless what they hate that person for is their race, religion, or sex.
This is not a principled stance.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:42:17 UTC No. 16145878

>>16145868
>>16145873
And just to be 100% clear, I'm not supporting discrimination. I'm saying political stances should not be discriminated against for the same reason that religion should not be discriminated against.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:44:21 UTC No. 16145883

>>16145873
>>16145878
I think religions should be discriminated against, actually. But it's unfortunately protected in the constitution.

Your personal political beliefs aren't.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:55:39 UTC No. 16145903

>>16145883
>Your personal political beliefs aren't.
They're covered under freedom of speech. And yes, freedom of speech DOES mean freedom from consequences. The whole point of the right to free speech is that anyone should be able to say anything without being punished for it directly by anyone. No one should be fired for expressing a dissenting political opinion.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:57:09 UTC No. 16145905

>>16145903
>And yes, freedom of speech DOES mean freedom from consequences.
Legal consequences, yes. Hope this helps.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:05:07 UTC No. 16145914

>>16145903
>The local daycare should be compelled to hire someone whose political ideology is "I want to fuck kids"
This is such a stupid position that I don't even think you believe it.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:22:09 UTC No. 16145938

>>16145914
This false equivalence is beyond retarded.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:29:28 UTC No. 16145954

>>16145938
It's your exact argument. You unambiguously stated that people's employment shouldn't be contingent on the things they say or believe.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:36:59 UTC No. 16145975

>>16145954
Articulating plans to cause direct harm to others is quite a bit different from saying who you vote for or whether you support open borders or gay marriage.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:42:10 UTC No. 16145983

>>16145975
>from saying who you vote for or whether you support open borders or gay marriage.
People make arguments that these things cause harm all the time, though.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:01:08 UTC No. 16146014

>>16145983
>I voted for Trump.
>I think we should limit immigration.
>I don't think gay marriage should be legal.
>I want to fuck kids.
One of these things is not like the other. There is a difference between a political opinion and the active desire to cause direct harm to someone.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:03:34 UTC No. 16146015

>>16146014
>There is a difference between a political opinion and the active desire to cause direct harm to someone.
Oh ok, so as long as the pedo says "I think it should be legal to fuck kids" it's all good.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:06:25 UTC No. 16146019

>>16122278
Ding ding ding

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:07:50 UTC No. 16146022

>>16122278
>It's not that educated people lean left, it's that people who lean left are more likely to go into teaching because they want to propagandize students.
And also because educated people lean left.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:09:12 UTC No. 16146024

>>16122595
Nice seeing don Quixote is still fighting the windmills today. Never give up!

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:20:47 UTC No. 16146037

>>16146015
Thinking something should be legal isn't necessarily the same thing as wanting to do it, so yes, someone should be allowed to express that view even though I find it distasteful and incorrect.

Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:26:13 UTC No. 16146042

>>16146037
>someone should be allowed to express that view
And daycares should be forced to hire them, according to you.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:22:25 UTC No. 16146493

>>16146037
>Thinking something should be legal isn't necessarily the same thing as wanting to do it.
OK grooomer

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:48:48 UTC No. 16146673

>>16122234
Not really, I think most would get crushed on simple prop logic, they may just be efficient to being code monkeys more than anything

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:54:29 UTC No. 16146676

>>16146673
>code monkeys
a software "engineer" is not an engineer

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 12:13:43 UTC No. 16146704

>>16146676
Mad?

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 12:19:22 UTC No. 16146713

>>16146704
that's not a fucking career. you last for 10 years and then you burn out. cheap thrills instant gratification and you end up a vegetable. let alone AI replacing you first in the next years. proper welders shit on code monkeys

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 12:27:45 UTC No. 16146724

>>16145843
>No reasonable person
Correct, but the left are getting further and further left, and there is no reasonable communist. Hard leftists are calling Democrats fascist now because of Ukraine(Apparently it's American Imperialism?) and Israel(Fuck Israel and Palestine).
>>16145868
Race and ethnicity is political. Everything is political this day and age. Sexuality is political. Religion is political now.
Race/ethnicity became more political due to Rodney King, Darren Wilson, Trayvon Martin, and Fentanyl Floyd. And retarded cops. Sexuality became political when the faggots started wanting more than marriage. Religion has always had a political basis, but started in 1799 and peaked in 1945, and has been stuck there since.
>>16146022
Depends on the education. Doctors, lawyers, and engineers lean right.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 12:30:21 UTC No. 16146732

>>16146724
>Religion is political now.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:00:40 UTC No. 16146774

>>16146732
Always has been, really.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:46:24 UTC No. 16146983

>>16146724
>the left are getting further and further left
And the right is getting further and further right.
>Race and ethnicity is political.
There are political topics related to race and ethnicity, but being a race or ethnicity is not a political belief. You don't choose your race or your ethnicity.
>Doctors, lawyers, and engineers lean right.
Source?

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:49:01 UTC No. 16146986

>>16146713
>that's not a fucking career. you last for 10 years and then you burn out. cheap thrills instant gratification and you end up a vegetable.
What the fuck are you even on about?
>welders shit on code monkeys
No, they earn considerably less.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:01:22 UTC No. 16147006

>>16146983
>And the right is getting further and further right
Not really, at least in American politics. There are and always have been a minority of hard right, but your average conservative/republican are most definitely not as hard right as people think. Regardless, fascism is a direct reaction to communism, and I don't want either.
>ethnicity is not a political belief
What's considered white, what's considered black, and the way you present yourself because of your race(Coal burner, uncle tom, asian persuasion, that kind of thing) and superiority of subgroups of race. Things like anglo saxon vs greco and so forth is most certainly political.
>Source?
https://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
Funny how skewed it kind of is, including "Software Engineer" when software engineers aren't real engineering, just a title. These are from 2016, though. It also doesn't include mining engineers, petroleum engineers. The doctors portion I got wrong.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:02:23 UTC No. 16147009

>>16147006
Though, if you add surgeons to the "doctors" mix, it definitely changes things.... so maybe I'm not all wrong.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:21:58 UTC No. 16147040

>>16147006
>Not really, at least in American politics.
Of course it is. Compare the MAGA movement to your average republican during Clinton-Bush eras. Even Obama era republicans were considerably less extremist than MAGAs.
>fascism is a direct reaction to communism
lmao.
>https://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
This shows both engineers, and legal being overwhelmingly democratic, contrary to your claim. Are you having a psychotic episode?

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:27:48 UTC No. 16147048

>>16147040
>MAGA movement
It's really not that much different in terms of right and left since the Regan administration. The hardest right were in the 60s during the civil rights movement. People move further right when they see drag queen storytimes and trannies and all the LGBTBBQ nonsense, so it's getting to the point of fascism.
>lmao.
>doesn't provide rebuttal
Fascism was created as a reaction to Communism, though they have plenty of similarities. No one likes pinkos.
>engineers
It includes Software Engineer which is only an engineer by name. remove that and it goes right. Legal is hard to represent, because legal doesn't show everyone in there being lawyers. Anecdotal, but law school had far more right leaning than left leaning individuals. Public folks will be left leaning generally. The rest of those in your screenshot are irrelevant to the subject.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:44:47 UTC No. 16147068

>>16147048
>People move further right
>so it's getting to the point of fascism.
So we agree, the right is moving further right.
>Fascism was created as a reaction to Communism
It wasn't.
>Software Engineer which is only an engineer by name.
This isn't correct.
>remove that and it goes right.
Source?

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:52:32 UTC No. 16147074

>>16147068
>So we agree
Yes, but not quite as quickly as the left.
>It wasn't.
It was. Mussolini gained power due to leftists pushing a communist revolution, and the italians didn't want it. Fascism took over directly due to Communists. The same in Germany. Hitler took power due to the still lingering effects of the German Revolution of 1919 and the Weimar Republic. That is a reaction to Communism.
>This isn't correct
It is. Software Engineers do not go to engineering school. Software Engineers do not get a PE. I was a Network Engineer by title, but I am not an engineer nor could I get a PE.
>Source?
Pic related, it also excluded petroleum and mining engineers, as they are under fossil fuels.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:56:59 UTC No. 16147081

>>16147074
>Yes, but not quite as quickly as the left.
No, Trump and the MAGA movement represent a colossal shifting of the overton window in the mainstream. Nothing similar has happened to the left anytime recently.
>Pic related
Your image shows that most engineers are left leaning.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:01:46 UTC No. 16147087

>>16147081
Are you not reading my entire posts? I don't think you are.
>Nothing similar has happened to the left anytime recently
More and more are supportive of LGBT nonsense, more and more are supportive of big government, more and more are supportive of communism, more and more are supportive of open borders. It's just getting worse and worse. People are getting tired of it, and are moving to the right as a result. The MAGA movement has not done much of a colossal shifting at all, moreso that people are moving so far left that they look like they're hard right, and they're not. A small minority are neo-nazis, and they don't like Trump because he's Pro-Israel. Zion Don.
>Your image
Again, remove Software Engineer since it belongs in IT and not Engineering, and add the petroleum engineer and mining engineer and it becomes significantly more red, to the point of it being a majority.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:09:06 UTC No. 16147096

>>16147087
>More and more are supportive of LGBT nonsense
I'm not sure what rock you've been living under where the left supporting LGBT issues was a recent thing, but in America the left has been supporting these issues for decades. What you're noticing now is conservatives suddenly being really angry about it, due to moving further right. That has nothing to do with the left.
>more and more are supportive of big government
The let has always been supportive of "big government". Again, nothing new.
>more and more are supportive of communism
The left doesn't "support" communism apart from fringe tankie movements, which have been the same since the 60s.
> The MAGA movement has not done much of a colossal shifting at all
Yes it has. You have mainstream republican politicians literally quoting Hitler and pushing for Christian nationalism.
>Again, remove Software Engineer since it belongs in IT and not Engineering, and add the petroleum engineer and mining engineer and it becomes significantly more red, to the point of it being a majority.
No, even if you remove software engineering, your image shows that the majority of engineers are left leaning.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:18:06 UTC No. 16147101

>>16147096
>LGBT
No, I mean the support of the drag queens, transgenders, etc. Old school democrats did not support that in the slightest. Most people were fine with gay marriage, but it's gone so fucking backwards since then. The old democrats moved right as a result of it. The majority of people don't like transgenders, they don't like drag queen story times, they don't like kids going to strip clubs, they don't like puberty blockers, and they don't like pride flags being flown in public institutions.
>always been supportive
Not to the point of supporting Communism. The left have always been more about more regulation not absolute state control to the point of authoritarianism. The right has also been somewhat big government, but in different ways. Less on the regulations and more on the invasions of privacy and control of people.
>fringe tankie movements
There are a lot more communists active today than there were. At least they are more vocal since we are no longer under mccarthyism.
>literally quoting Hitler
Mary Miller made one quote that was absolutely on the nail. It wasn't talking about fascism, it was talking about propaganda and our youth. Hitler had some positives, not many, but he had some.
>Christian nationalism
Not really christian nationalism. If you want to say that's hard right, the left are in support of muslim nationalism. Bring in all those palestinians and syrians and turn us into a caliphate.
>engineers are left leaning
Not when you add in the other two missing engineers I mentioned.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:20:48 UTC No. 16147104

>>16147101
>the left are in support of muslim nationalism.
I was going to respond to your post in earnest, but after reading this it's becoming clear that you aren't interested in having an honest conversation. Good luck going forward, anon.

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:23:16 UTC No. 16147111

>>16147104
You've deliberately ignored half of my posts. The left definitely support Islam for some fucking insane reason. In doing so they indirectly support a caliphate. The left want to destroy the west.