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Anonymous No. 16123455

Prove the Pythagorean theorem without using a circular argument.

That means no trigonometry, brainlets.

Anonymous No. 16123463

Euclid's Elements, Prop I.47. c. 300 BC.

Anonymous No. 16123465

>>16123463
Can you come up with your own proof? 2 black girls did it, why can't you?

Anonymous No. 16123486

>>16123465
I have no idea what you're talking about.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16123522

>>16123465
sin^(x) + cos^(x) = 1
a^2/c^2 + b^2/c^2 = 1
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
Now give me my field medal

Anonymous No. 16123714

>>16123465
Their "proof" was just to apply trigonometry and it hasn't even been validated through peer review, so it doesn't meet OP's standards, its not an accepted formal proof, and it isn't even based entirely on their own work, its just applied trig.

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Anonymous No. 16123770

let "a" be triangle base and "b" height

now, curve of hypotenuse is y=b/a x
length of curve c=integral sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2) ,x=0...a

so c=integral sqrt(1+(b/a)^2) ,x=0...a
c=a sqrt(1+(b/a)^2) = sqrt(a^2+b^2)

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16124848

>>16123455
>without using a circular argument
>That means no trigonometry
trigonometry is a triangular argument, not a circular one

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Anonymous No. 16124893

The pythagorean theorem is disprovable

Anonymous No. 16124905

>>16124893
????

Anonymous No. 16124986

>>16124905
I know, I was surprised too

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Anonymous No. 16125180

>>16124893
kek

Anonymous No. 16125187

>>16124893
I cannot tell if you are intentionally being stupid or not.

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Anonymous No. 16125188

>>16124893
Forgot the image.

Anonymous No. 16125197

>>16123455
a^2+b^2=c^2
>>16123465
What proof, the numbers work and give the correct result, there's no need to "prove" anything

Anonymous No. 16125205

>>16124893
>The pythagorean theorem is disprovable
you may have missed the point that a, b and c are the actual lengths of the sides, not merely any number written on them.

Anonymous No. 16125329

>>16123455
>>>/sci/mpsg

Anonymous No. 16125396

>>16124893
kek

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Garrote No. 16126424

>>16123463
This.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16127679

WE WUZ PYTHAGORUS AN SHEEEIIIIIIITTTTTTT
WE BE SMART MUFFFUGGUH

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Anonymous No. 16128610

>>16123455
I measured every single triangle, Pythagoras didn't lie

Anonymous No. 16128616

>>16123455
I'm going to draw some lines on a piece of paper.

Anonymous No. 16129213

>>16123455
https://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/index.shtml
>That means no trigonometry, brainlets.
There are trigonometric identities that can be proven without presupposing the Pythagorean Theorem, and therefore can be used to prove the Pythagorean Theorem. Namely, the sum and difference formulas can be proven with only Ptolemy's Theorem. See:
https://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/TrigProof.shtml
https://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/TrigProof2.shtml

Anonymous No. 16129244

>>16124893
white man science btfo!

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16129899

Euclidian geometry is all fake and gay, there is nowhere in this universe that it is valid

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16130833

>>16123455
I can't because I'm not a soience kang

Anonymous No. 16131035

>>16123455
The pythagorean theorem can be shown to be equiv to Euclid's 5th Axiom. So, it is essentially an axiom for flat geometry. Like, it obv aint true for a sphere or hyperbolic plane

Anonymous No. 16131047

>>16123455
>without using a circular argument.
Prove to me anything without axioms.

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Anonymous No. 16131221

The triangle inequality is false

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16132351

Just goes to show that people who study math are as smart as African high school girls

Anonymous No. 16133144

>>16131221
>i is perpendicular from reals
>1 line is horizontal
>i line is vertical
>i length is perpendicular to vertical
>i length is horizontal
>distance from the two ends of the two horizontal lines is 0
It works

Anonymous No. 16133160

>>16123455
Nothing is gained from from the simplistic.

Anonymous No. 16133177

>>16123455
Trangles

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>>16132351

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Anonymous No. 16135378

>>16131221
Idk, man.
i+1>0
1+0>i
0+i>1
Seems to check out just fine for me.

Anonymous No. 16136442

>>16135247
omg lmao

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16137895

>>16135247
How do the groid worshipers of /sci/ response to this?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16138609

>>16123455
using the phrase "circular argument." when talking about trigonometry always strikes me as being too absurd to be real, I always presume it must be a joke

Anonymous No. 16138945

>>16131221
hold up... doesnt this work?

Anonymous No. 16138947

>>16131221
Yes in monkey magic math the definition had to be changed so that Re^2 + Im^2 = length^2

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Anonymous No. 16139663

done

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16139872

>>16139663
how does that prove anything

Anonymous No. 16141160

>>16139872
science bro

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16141725

>>16136442
what'd i miss?

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16143090

>Prove the Pythagorean theorem without using a circular argument.

Anonymous No. 16144455

>>16133177
an sheeeeeiiiiiitttt

Anonymous No. 16145427

>>16139663
why are they equal tho

Anonymous No. 16145432

>>16145427
figure it out why boi

Anonymous No. 16145438

>>16143090
I would date this girl if she had a better personality
.

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Anonymous No. 16145451

>>16139872

Anonymous No. 16146504

>>16145438
Twum is a lesbian.

Anonymous No. 16146507

>>16145451
>the first two squares become rectangles that fit perfectly into the third square because muh theorem is true
thats just more circular reasoning, you don't understand how proofs are supposed to work

Anonymous No. 16146554

>>16123455
Ok read to get rekt OP?

pythagorean theorem = True


Booooooom 360 head shot

Anonymous No. 16146595

you can prove trigonometry from complex analysis thoughbeit. you can define sin(z) and cos(z) in terms of exp(iz) and exp(-iz) to prove that sin^2 + cos^2 = 1
from there, you can use rotation invariance to prove that distance to the origin is constant on paths parametrized by (r sin(t), r cos(t))

Anonymous No. 16146769

>>16146595
Using exponential definition of sin and cos, how do you show these functions are related to triangles?

Anonymous No. 16146783

let x and y be orthogonal vectors. Then (x,y)=0.

if z is the vector x+y, then

||z||^2 = (z,z) = (x+y,x+y) = (x,y) + (y,y) = ||x||^2 + ||y||^2

if we denote the lengths of x,y,z by a,b,c the result is proved

Anonymous No. 16146987

>>16146769
invariance under rotation implies that if [math]y dx + x dy = 0[/math] then [math]d ||(x, y)|| = 0[/math] (the path has a constant distance from the origin)
you can show through calculus that the path given by [math](r \cos t, r \sin t)[\math] satisfies this property

Anonymous No. 16146994

>>16125188
>unintentionally makes use of the Pythagorean theorem while trying to disprove it

Anonymous No. 16147798

>>16146595
Can you build up enough complex analysis to prove that without invoking Euclidean distance or the modulus of a complex number, though? Using Euclidean distance to prove the Pythagorean theorem is circular.

Anonymous No. 16147862

>>16146507
>I don't understand how area works

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Anonymous No. 16148265

>>16147862
That area proof only works in the case that the pythigger theorem is true

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16149155

>>16148265
Right, so its a circular argument. If the theorem were false then the two squares would not add up to the 3rd square

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Anonymous No. 16149167

>>16148265
The area proof worka because it's directly observable and applicable to reality, 1l is 1l doesn't matter if your container is shorter or taller, you absolute negroid

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16150687

>>16149167
>the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because the area proof works because the pythigger theorem works because
t. circular argument arguer

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Anonymous No. 16150709

>>16123455
Just count the triangles in the big square and compare it to the number of triangles in the two lozenges. No need for trigonometry, but you can use your fingers if you need to.

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Anonymous No. 16150752

>>16150687
I accept your concession

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Anonymous No. 16150832

Triangle is half square so its linear fr fr

Anonymous No. 16150908

>>16123455
Use a ruler on graph paper with millimeter precision. I draw a sequence of triangles with varying leg lengths,
L = {1,2,3,4,5,...}mm and H = {1,2,3,4,5,...} mm all the way up to {L,H} = {10cm,10cm}, yielding hundreds of data points. I tabulate the two columns in Excel. I then use my ruler to measure the hypotenuse of the triangle and tabulate that data in Excel. I then plot the data in a bunch of different ways until a clear trend appears.
>t. physicist

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Anonymous No. 16150915

>>16124893
Based

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16152315

>>16149167
>it's directly observable and applicable to reality
It isn't, there is nowhere in this universe that euclidian geometry is true, euclidian geometry is an abstraction that was invented for midwits who can't figure out real geometry

Anonymous No. 16153450

>>16148265
wtf is wrong with her chin

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Anonymous No. 16154311

>>16148265

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>>16154311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5AFHu8Xrw4

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16156938

>>16123455
how come all the self proclaimed geniuses of /sci/ got outsmarted by a couple of high school girls?

Anonymous No. 16157528

>>16123714
C O P E holy shit you faggots love to cope hard.

Anonymous No. 16157558

>>16123455
there's a pretty simple one given in Lang's Basic Mathematics (would recommend btw) that avoid trigonometry. The proof, iirc, is done by connecting four right-triangles such that they form two squares, and then using previously proven properties of squares to prove that the length of the sides of the inner-square is equal to the square root of the outer lengths. it's actually a really fun proof.

Anonymous No. 16158566

>>16148265
Is there a scientific term to describe that kind of chin deformity? Does science know what causes it?

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>>16123455

Anonymous No. 16158733

>>16123745
/thread

Anonymous No. 16158814

>>16124893
>Not one counter argument

So no one can refute this?

Anonymous No. 16158835

>>16158814
Already countered by a dub >>16125188

Anonymous No. 16158880

>>16123455
Proof is always circular. A is the case because B is the case. Otherwise an endless chain of questions and answers follows (why B 'cause C why C 'cause D etc. So it must be axiomatic that B is sufficient to prove A or A itself is an axiom. In this case the most fundamental axiom is that the surface area of rectangles with sides A and B is AB and it's axiomatic that a diagonal divides the surface area in halves.

Anonymous No. 16160200

>>16158730
that doesn't prove anything

Anonymous No. 16161723

>>16158835
the picrel you referenced doesn't mean anything. plane geometry is for brainlets, its useless. there is nowhere in this universe that plane geometry is legitmate, this pic in >>16124893 is just a right triangle as seen in one of the many, many planar geometries which do exist in irl life

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Anonymous No. 16162746

>>16123455

Anonymous No. 16162926

>>16160200
why not? i find it convincing

Anonymous No. 16163561

>>16162926
only because you're low IQ

Anonymous No. 16163708

>>16123455
I'll just Google an existing proof like they did

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Anonymous No. 16163749

>>16124893
I'll allow it.

Anonymous No. 16163758

>>16163708
It's amazing how hard you retards have to cope with every black achievement. I love watching you squirm.

Anonymous No. 16163760

>>16162746
>t. IQlet

Anonymous No. 16164051

>>16163758
I don't think the 6 millionth redundant Pythagorean proof is much of an accomplishment, but go off.

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>>16163760

Anonymous No. 16164449

>>16152315
Provide me a true triangle where the theorem doesn't hold

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Anonymous No. 16165263

>>16162746

Anonymous No. 16165348

>>16131221
8/10

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>>16164449
not a proof

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Anonymous No. 16166897

>>16164449
There is nowhere in this universe where your flat space cartesian fantasyland is reality.

Anonymous No. 16167366

fags

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167933

>>16162746
>black girls prove fried chicken is delicious

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16168590

>>16167933
I already knew about that. How high does that make my IQ?

Anonymous No. 16168737

>>16166897
1. Your argument only holds for large scales
2. The universe itself is infinitely flat, without external influence parallel lines in space will never converge or diverge

Anonymous No. 16168749

>>16123455
Tell us which part of the girls' proof requires that the Pythagorean theorem holds.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16169669

>>16168737
wrong, euclidian geometry is for vapid brainlets.

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Anonymous No. 16169711

>>16160200
It proves it alright. More than that, that's how Pythagoras himself is told to have proven it
>>16163561
NO U

Anonymous No. 16169742

>>16169669
Doesn't matter if it's non-euclidean when it appears completely identical to euclidean

Anonymous No. 16169761

i've read their proof. It's obviously legit and pretty brilliant. I think no one did it before because they simply thought its impossible

Anonymous No. 16169771

>>16169761
post the proof (at this point I suspect it doesn't exist)

Anonymous No. 16169772

>>16169771
if you're too stupid to use google, you're too stupid to understand it

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16169779

>>16169772
nobody is too stupid to use google, but I don't really care that much: they're nigger females, which makes me doubt twice as much their ability to come up with anything new.

Anonymous No. 16169789

>>16169779
chud moment

Anonymous No. 16170208

>>16158835
>the pythagorean theorem is true if you change the numbers

Anonymous No. 16170209

>>16169779
Africans and their descendants have come up with pretty much every "new" idea

Anonymous No. 16170223

>>16170209
That's because our species originated in Africa.

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Anonymous No. 16170364

>>16170223
After they revealed that mummies in egyptian and chinese pyramids have european appearance, it became clear, that whites were pushed further and further north by black hordes, and now they opened the gate again.

Anonymous No. 16170373

>>16170236
the most gay proof possible, and they teach exactly that proof all over the world, instead of teaching kids the one with triangles within a+b square. Hands down, their task is not to ignite your interest in science, au contraire.

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Cult of Passion No. 16170392

>>16170236
>word word word
Nerd.

At least I try to bully dead people. Pour a bag of beans on his grave, Office Space style.

Anonymous No. 16170617

>>16170392
> circles
> some other triangle
How does it prove anything?

Anonymous No. 16170781

>>16170373
They have to teach what a triangle is and what a square is first, this includes the pons asinorum, you only think it's retarded because the pons asinorum filters you, this is why prop 47 is best

Anonymous No. 16170898

>>16170223
no it didn't

Anonymous No. 16170901

>>16170781
I thought they taught what triangle and square are in kindergartens. Either way you're not supposed to filter anybody in the common and pretty much compulsory education.

Anonymous No. 16170937

>>16170392
Could you give us an explanation for this proof?

Anonymous No. 16171427

>>16170901
Lol you can't comprehend mathematics outside of school or work

Anonymous No. 16171594

>>16171427
That's also true for most people, sadly.

Anonymous No. 16171597

>>16123465
>Can you come up with your own proof?
There is no need to re-discover America.

Anonymous No. 16172590

>>16170364
source

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Anonymous No. 16172874

>>16172590
It's pretty much all over the internet now.
Picrelated is an egyptian mummy, and here's for the chinese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

Anonymous No. 16173488

>>16172874
Whites built the great wall of China in hopes of keeping the chinky baboon people out of the white part of eurasia. Later on Chinks rewrote history and claimed credit for building the wall.

Anonymous No. 16173880

>>16173488
The great wall was built over thousands of years in multiple stages

Cult of Passion No. 16173881

>>16170937
No, deduce it.

Thats how I was initiated, shown something "strange" and figured it out when everyone else said "Tss nuh uh."

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Cult of Passion No. 16173886

>>16170617
>How does it prove anything?
Another retard sees information and responds with "THIS DOESNT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. NO U DUM."

Your family should ashamed of you...wake the fuck up, dipshit.....seriously....WAKE THE FUCK UP.

STOP TALKING LIKE YOURE THE SMART ONE, RETARD........DID YOU FORGET YOURE NOT A GENIUS?

HUH KATHY NEWMAN? FORGOT YOURE NOT A NEUROCHEMIST? JUST [[[FORGOT]]]?

Cult of Passion No. 16173902

>>16173881
>>16173886
This is why.

"The People" are worthy, thats why Bible Codes exist, these soulless pieces of shit are nice until they believe they wield power, then they become some child like vision of a super villian, but since the normally cant their evil sprouts in things like work/politics etc.

Cult of Passion No. 16173903

>>16173902
>arent* worthy
lol damnit...maybe the "Youth", but theyre no in power at all.

Cult of Passion No. 16173908

Ive shown critically import shit to people over and over, the #1 response "Tssss NuH Uh."

Literal national security secrets or shit gets "lmao larp"'d back. Its funny and sad...you could try to give people important and they trash it with pride.

"I prefer eating feces."
Yes...human tend to.

Cult of Passion No. 16173921

>>16173908
>"I prefer eating feces."
Oh...and this is the make themselves look smarter as a front to me...but Im the doctor, dipshits...you literally fucking idiots literally walk into a doctors office and try to usurp "doctoral authority" in the room with zero quakifications, its funny and sad.

To see someone so out of touch with themselves and the world around them.

Cult of Passion No. 16174042

I love eating my own poopy

Anonymous No. 16174432

>>16173886
I asked you a question, redtard.
Also I am a genius, and you're a boring clown from reddirt.

Anonymous No. 16174439

>>16131221
That is not how you measure distances, you stupid idiot.

Anonymous No. 16174676

>>16173880
where did you read that? wikipedia?

Anonymous No. 16174900

>>16174432
You may hate Reddit, but that's what the rest of the Internet thinks about 4chan.

Anonymous No. 16174905

>>16174900
who cares what the rest of the Internet thinks?

Anonymous No. 16174918

Waffle cone? More like waffle STOMP!!

Anonymous No. 16174920

>>16174905
People on the rest of the Internet.

Anonymous No. 16175368

>>16174920
And where you should return, also because you are not even able to follow the conversation. The question was not what you're thinking of anything, but how do those circles prove the theorem.

Anonymous No. 16176413

>>16174900
you should go somewhere else if you hate 4chan, you're clearly not here to be a good contributor to the site

Anonymous No. 16177469

>>16146504
does she date transbians?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16177984

>>16177469
That would violate her rule of the characteristics of people being visually identifiable

Anonymous No. 16178950

>>16176413
4chan is packed to the gills with "activists" from other websites who come here to try and ruin this site and jannys do nothing about it

Anonymous No. 16178968

>>16178950
Well, jannies are not supposed to do anything about them, it's our job. It's one of the main principles of this comfy platform.

Anonymous No. 16179528

>>16178950
so is krautchan

Anonymous No. 16179777

>>16123463
euclid's elements isn't rigorous. it has logical fallacies.

Anonymous No. 16179786

>>16178950
>can post about anything except stuff i don't like

Anonymous No. 16180969

>>16179786
you're the one who is complaining about other people posting things you dislike

Anonymous No. 16181580

>>16123455
why are white liberals so patronizing?
>LOOK ALL, THE BLACK MACAQUES FROM NOUVELLE-FRANCE ACTUALLY MADE MATHEMATICS. HOW FASCINATING. PLEASE, COME IN, WATCH THIS FREAK SHOW OF CURIOSITY!

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16182399

>>16181580
They're racists who consider negroes a lesser form of life, but they're not willing to admit their true feelings publicly so they engage in massive virtue signaling in order to try and cover up the truth about themselves.
virtue signaling is always a tipoff of someone who is trying to hide the the truth about themselves.

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>>16181580

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16184988

>>16169742
>t. euclidean brainlet

Anonymous No. 16185023

>>16124893
That's not a right triangle.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16185788

>>16185023
Yes it is, the calculation on that pic is wrong, 12 squared is 130

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Anonymous No. 16187023

>>16123455
given the recent rash of fraud and plagiarism committed by negroes, why should anyone believe that their claimed achievement is legitimate?

Anonymous No. 16188261

>>16185023
Looks like one to me

Anonymous No. 16188873

It's obvious

Anonymous No. 16189793

>>16185788
you're replying to one of those 2+2=4 chuds, they're too low IQ to understand decolonized mathematics

Anonymous No. 16190689

>>16187023
>why should anyone believe that their claimed achievement is legitimate?
Low IQ, its common, most people have it.

Anonymous No. 16191242

>>16123455
It's on Wikipedia so it's must be true faggot

Anonymous No. 16191252

>>16158730
right image looks like ukraine and upa flag

Anonymous No. 16192092

>>16123455
i could prove it in one word, but that word is banned on /sci/ because it is the n word

Anonymous No. 16193338

>>16181580
they're like that because they have low iq

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>>16192092
naggers

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Anonymous No. 16193540

>>16131221
>>16133144
btw it works from both sides on the real number line

Anonymous No. 16193645

>>16123745
Proof of the additive properties of areas?

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Anonymous No. 16193919

>>16193354

Anonymous No. 16195289

imagine being a 3 dimensional creature and living in a 3 dimensional universe and thinking plane geometry is real or has any bearing on reality

Anonymous No. 16195332

If I go one way, I donโ€™t go the other.

Anonymous No. 16195353

>>16193645
Self evident

Anonymous No. 16195382

>>16123455
>Prove the Pythagorean theorem without using a circular argument.
Use a ruler to measure the triangle.

Anonymous No. 16196495

>>16195353
proof that its self evident?

Anonymous No. 16197318

>>16196495
the fact that there is no proof that its self evidence is proof that its not self evident

Anonymous No. 16198315

>>16197318
Proof that the fact that there is no proof that its self evidence is proof that its not self evident?

Anonymous No. 16198699

>>16198315
Godel's completeness theorem

Anonymous No. 16199437

>>16145427
They just are, that's the proof, and it satisfies the OP's challenge.

But to answer your question, the Pythagoras theorem works only in flat space. In curved geometric space, like on a sphere, the shapes distort and the relationship is not true anymore.

So to answer your question, at our scale, space is locally flat, so that relationship holds. If you tried to do that on a cosmological scale, it would not hold anymore since spacetime is all distorted throughout.

Anonymous No. 16199531

>>16199437
why do you consider 2d flat space real and everything else "distorted" when there is nowhere in this universe that flat space exists outside of your imagination?

Anonymous No. 16199554

>>16199437
So Pythagoras' "theorem" is a postulate equivalent to Euclid's fifth postulate.
OP's question is bait and he is a faggot.

Anonymous No. 16199579

>>16123455
Just draw a rectangular triangular into a piece of paper and measure the sides, and see if they fit into the theorem. Simple.

Theoretical retards get fucked.

Anonymous No. 16199625

>>16199531
I didn't say 2D space is real or not, I said the relationship between those areas is what it is.

>there is nowhere in this universe that flat space exists outside of your imagination?
That is true, well said, but for practical purposes, at our scale the curvature is negligible, and only detectable with the most sensitive of apparatuses to measure it, like atomic clocks and laser interferometers, etc.

Anonymous No. 16199628

>>16199554
It's a property of flat space, yes. Just like the number 3.14159... is.

Anonymous No. 16199642

>>16123463
Euclid's Elements should only be of interest to the historian of mathematics. The work doesn't hold up to scrutiny and it is a poor way to learn geometry

Anonymous No. 16200322

>>16123455
>high school girls are good at math
more evidence that math is a dumb topic which only idiots could devote their lives to

Anonymous No. 16200972

>>16172874
the mummy has more hair than the average white male

Anonymous No. 16200978

>>16199531
My imagination is more real than what you measure with your silly instruments. I have access to my imagination directly while you have to rely on your eyes relying on gauges relying on some measurement mechanism.
Math is more rigorous than physics. Have you never done any research? In physics we often throw out results because they're unphysical lol

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16201673

>>16200978
you don't do physics research

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Anonymous No. 16201766

>>16123455
>>16123455
For the benefit of mathematics, I will not discuss magnitudes that are incommensurate.
>>16123463
Euclid's 4th was always wrong.
-t. hyperbolic geometry
>>16124893
And Hippasus is a drownable human (at least according to Hebrew translated greek). Not because he was "right", but because he was an insufferable moron who even after divulging the nature of the irrational insisted math could be used to solve it (which was why Pythagoras was shamed). You think that sounds like a dumb reason to drown someone? Look at the all the retards preaching "real numbers" now and pretending it' hot shit that means a bucket of piss. Down them, all of them!
These secrets were know long before Pythagoras, it's even why they don't refer to 0 or 1 as "of number". Even Aristotle and Euclid knew 1 wasn't a number. It's the principle of number

Anonymous No. 16201775

>>16123463
>Euclid's Elements, Prop I.47. c. 300 BC.
This!
It only took turds 2300 years to catch up to us.

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>>16157528
I have listed all ACTUAL black accomplishments here:

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Anonymous No. 16202770

>>16187023
This.
OP is as real as picrel

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>>16187023

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Anonymous No. 16205982

>>16205029
>someone who can count to 10 on his fingers insulting the math ability of someone who can only go up to 9

Anonymous No. 16206134

>>16124893
Absolutely based

Platonists will never recover when forced to contend with the fictionalist chad

Anonymous No. 16206915

>>16206134
Everything about plane geometry is fictional. We don't live in a 2d universe

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Anonymous No. 16207620

>>16131221
yee haw

Anonymous No. 16208253

>>16123455
SHOW THE CHILDREN!

Anonymous No. 16209211

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihYpOn32KI

Anonymous No. 16210531

>>16209211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eitsutpOc

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Anonymous No. 16212124

>>16209211
lol
I wonder if its true that different races have different nutritional needs

Anonymous No. 16213243

>>16162746
lol

Anonymous No. 16218174

>>16166897
I hope the AIDS kills you slow

Anonymous No. 16218183

>>16200972
And it still has more intelligence than a nigger even after being dead for 5000 years

Anonymous No. 16218263

Fags

Anonymous No. 16218306

>>16168737
The universe is only locally flat if it is empty, any energy causes curvature and any curvature causes distorted geodesics.

Anonymous No. 16218322

>>16195289
Doesn't matter, still can be rigorously defined. Learn what the Riemann tensor is, or at least learn about the Poincare disk/half plane.

Anonymous No. 16220111

>>16212124
they definitely do, thats why immigration is so bad, it takes people out of their natural ecosystems

Anonymous No. 16220225

>>16124893
I kneel

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Anonymous No. 16221313

>>16220225
>did someone mention me?

Anonymous No. 16222773

>>16221313
>kneel on de grasse tyson

Anonymous No. 16223987

>>16123455
its works

Anonymous No. 16224378

>>16199579
But how do you know it holds for every right triangle?

Anonymous No. 16224785

>>16193645
kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16226085

>>16224785
so you're saying you have no proof

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>>16218183

Anonymous No. 16228011

Space is a vacuum...which direction do it pull? Light travels through it. Vacuums create planets. Vacuums make round objects. Gravity makes round. Light only can be seen if gravity is present.

8 minutes for light to reach earth and how many minutes to reflect on moon?

Anonymous No. 16229225

>>16228011
>Space is a vacuum.
false premise, it isn't

Anonymous No. 16229231

>>16123455
do i get to use the euclidean distance?

Anonymous No. 16229233

>>16124893
best bait award

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Anonymous No. 16230629

>>16218174

Anonymous No. 16231887

>>16229233
it just goes to show that anyone can put lines and worlds on a jpeg, but that doesn't make whats on the jpeg true. The global warming shills use the same trick with all their fake graphs

Anonymous No. 16232358

>>16165263
The nazi party being asked about rascism

Anonymous No. 16232554

>>16123455
Let v be a 2d vector, so v = ax + by
length is defined by the quadratic form a^2 + b^2
this induces a geometric algebra
wherein the area of the square is given by v^2
(ax+by)^2
a^2xx + abxy + bayx + b^2yy
a^2 + abxy - baxy + b^2
a^2 + b^2

we're talking about flat euclidean space, hence that particular quadratic form
were talking about lengths, so the basis vectors have unit length, so x^2 = y^2 = 1
and we're talking about right angles, so x,y anticommute

you can verify that this is the correct quadratic form by checking that it's rotationally symmetric, since it's already obviously correct on the axis
we can do this by taking a rotor, given by two unit vectors m,n, and showing the form applied to v is the same as applied to mnvnm

(mnvnm)^2
mnvnmmnvnm
mnvnnvnm since units square to 1
mnv^2nm
v^2 mnnm scalars are in the center
v^2

Anonymous No. 16232578

>>16232554
sorry, phone posting from work
that's the wrong formula for the area of a square
it's the magnitude of the xy component of vxyv
(ax+by)xy(ax+by)
(-bx+ay)(ax+by)
-bax^2 +aby^2 + (a^2+b^2)yx
(a^2 + b^2)yx
so the magnitude of the component is
a^2+b^2

Anonymous No. 16233808

>>16123455
Blacks are so good at all aspects of science and math these days.
Should all other races be formally excluded? Nobody can compete with African intellects, research and publications by non-blacks is just a big waste of resources

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Anonymous No. 16234962

>>16233808
Yes, but negroes should be excluded from athletics, they can't compete with the white race

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>>16234962
Big win for Luka tonight.

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>>16231887

Anonymous No. 16237588

>>16233808
Perfect time to end affirmative action, they can sustain on their own now

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>>16203593

Anonymous No. 16239787

>>16235820
mavs in 7

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>>16187023

Anonymous No. 16241918

All you guys are just mean

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16242006

>>16187023
the trumps aren't negros anon

Anonymous No. 16243179

>>16242006
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16243276

>>16129213
>Someone gives a correct actual answer to the question
>0 replies
>People give retarded answers
>50 replies

nice

Anonymous No. 16243305

>>16243276
You must be new here

Anonymous No. 16244853

>>16243276
"proven" is an adjective, "proved" is a verb

Anonymous No. 16244984

>>16123455
>trigonometry
well you simply can prof it wiht in an larger circle of pi.

Anonymous No. 16245003

Rent
Free

Anonymous No. 16245055

>>16124893
>>16125188
>โˆš130=11,401754251
oops

Anonymous No. 16246194

>>16179777
trips? for a lie? outrageous

Anonymous No. 16246199

>>16201766
> Euclid's 4th was always wrong.
-t. hyperbolic geometry
Holy shit what a brainlet. First, thatโ€™s the fifth postulate youโ€™re thinking of. Second, itโ€™s not wrong, itโ€™s just one axiom that you can take to generate one type of geometry. Different fifth postulates create separate and consistent geometries. None of them are โ€œwrongโ€ you fucking retard

Champion of the impotent No. 16246234

>>16123455
Natural water tangents?

Anonymous No. 16246236

N

Anonymous No. 16246599

>>16131221
the pic that saved /sci/

Anonymous No. 16247475

We wuz making proofs an sheit

Anonymous No. 16247573

>>16124893
>>16125188
It's funny because this is a circular argument and OP knew this was going to happen. Is it normal for math students to make fun of eachother like this?

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Anonymous No. 16248846

>>16246194
>muh sacred texts
cringe

Anonymous No. 16250390

the first proof by whites was done before pythagorus was even born, the first proof by africans occurred thousands of years later

Anonymous No. 16251721

>>16250390
The media willfully ignores that in order to shill their white genocide rhetoric

Anonymous No. 16252974

>>16123455
I'd make a triangle wit dem bichez

Anonymous No. 16253933

>>16124893
this is not a prof you need to proof square roots first. which my head did on autopilote yesterday.

Anonymous No. 16253936

>>16124893
>>16253933
well i guessed it right as kid and "profed" it reverse very easy but its not a ..... you know count from 1 prof

Anonymous No. 16253939

>>16253936
it was prof by รคquations not prof by geometry.

Anonymous No. 16253948

>>16253936
>>16253939
prof by musterabgleich.

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Anonymous No. 16253957

well thats annoing i profed 8 space vectors.
i profed matz as language. but i need at least 5 lines to prof this little thing. i profed evne micro profs by living longer.

Anonymous No. 16253965

>>16253957
the reality you need 2 limes to prof this, i needed at least. but i never wrote it down on the paper.

Anonymous No. 16253972

>>16253965
>>16253957
you need 2 approaches to a limes to prof it for real.

Anonymous No. 16253977

>>16253957
>>16253972
right i mena in this world while in reality only a super imprint with in an event horizon prof sth. for real.

Anonymous No. 16253983

>>16253977
that said i know how to matz gates, rocked ships exploding or stargats tearing your apart is only a proof you dont want to have my kowledge.

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Anonymous No. 16254026

>>16123455
why do /sci/ only spam black girls? does a year old news article need to reach the bump limit?

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>>16123455

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16256120

>>16201775
>us.
Rednecks aren't white.

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Anonymous No. 16256131

>>16250390

Anonymous No. 16256162

>>16123455
It is something remarkable? Yes. But calling them geniuses is a bit of a stretch, dont you think?

Anonymous No. 16256193

>>16244853
sar pls

Anonymous No. 16257107

>>16256162
>It is something remarkable?
no it isn't. only a racist would think that a black person achieving what other races had already achieved was remarkable.

Anonymous No. 16257206

https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/VIDEOS/GEOMETRY/004-Pythagorean-Thm/Pytha-3.pdf

Anonymous No. 16258497

>>16257107
TSMT
All the excitement over this is very patronizing.

Anonymous No. 16259397

>>16257107
I'm a racist and I don't think that a black person achieving what other races had already achieved was remarkable. I think it's laughable that blacks are just now catching up to what whites had achieved thousands of years ago.

Anonymous No. 16260305

>>16257206
>Dr. Ching-Kuang Shene

Anonymous No. 16261709

>>16254026
why do you hate negroes?

Anonymous No. 16262587

>>16170898
This, the out of Africa theory has been disproved

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Sage No. 16262795

taking this thread closer to bump limit whilst contributing nothing

Anonymous No. 16263773

>>16259397
its like the chinese space program
>omg we put someone in orbit 70 years after white countries did!!!
>we did it by copying their technology since we're too dumb to develop any of our own!!!
>omg so successful

Anonymous No. 16264592

>>16263773
Everyone wants to be like the whites, but none of the nonwhites will ever be able to achieve that because they are not white

Anonymous No. 16264595

+1 to bump limit
this thread needs to die

Anonymous No. 16265548

>>16264595
why does this topic upset you so badly?

Anonymous No. 16265684

bump

Anonymous No. 16265802

>>16265548
Fag

Anonymous No. 16265923

bump

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>>16123463
Excellent response, thank you

I agree with OP, white lib dems with no foundational math knowledge or proofs knowledge trumpeting stupid lazy nigger shehulks as new and exciting YET AGAIN

They use a property of sine in their bullshit "proof", that ALONE is circular reasoning since sine-cosine relationships depend on right-angle definitions from BC-epoch geometric constructions

Also the prop order to support prop 47 includes book 1 prop 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, and 19, too understand how perpendicularity is proven between different lines as a counterpoint to the parallel postulate

Anonymous No. 16266501

>>16129213
Wasn't mentioned in the niggerproof, they assumed sine-cosine relations, not applicable to OP

Additionally, this covers only the relation of side lengths for assumed right-angles, again the counterpoint to parallel postulate, proving perpendicularity, is required reading.

They didn't cover Euclid's Elements, not Even one book, if they had, they'd have known what their circular reasoning was

Ptolemy and sine doesn't cover angles for supplementary adjacent squares WHICH IS WHAT THE PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM IS ABOUT, THE SQUARES

Anonymous No. 16266514

>>16146595
Nope, this presumes 2d planar and coordinate geometry, which first must be proven using only a straight edge and compass

Nope circular reasoning, dude
Your hope is that appealing to "advanced" mathematics can retroactively or backward-compatibly prove the very ground upon which they are founded, 2d planar geometry

I mean ROTATIONS about AXES and even simple addition algebraic equivalence (set sine relations equal to one) ARE FOUNDED IN GEOMETRY lmfao

Bro you can't have orthogonality without either proving perpendicularity or assuming it
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16266518

>>16146783
>orthogonal vectors

There you go, no, we don't let them be shot'shit without a reference to fundamental geometric construction and reasoning proving perpendicularity

Bro, first understand the Parallel Postulate and then PROVE perpendicularity

lmfao

You stupid fin joo

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Anonymous No. 16266528

>>16123455

Here you go. You can literally count the squares yourself. The squares of the two smaller sides equal the squares of the hypotenuse side.

Anonymous No. 16266529

>>16147798
DUDE EXACTLY

Jesus Christ man
these fakeass logicians pretending with calculus

OH MUH CALCULUS

Goddamn derivatives themselves are defined AS SLOPES OF LINES TANGENT TO A CURVE

omfg how do they not see this shit

These fin faggot cucks that need to support niggerdom to join the popular crowd of fake mathematicians threatened by automation

lmao

dude joos ended up calling out a BUNCH of fakers, I mean, this shit got national coverage and you STILL get fake mathematicians on 4Chins trying to mental somersault or out

lmfao

Anonymous No. 16266536

>>16157558
Hmmm, Imma check that out

Anonymous No. 16266548

>>16254500
The way it was proved in my asian curriculum high school was using a bunch of theorems about the side lengths of the squares combined with some projected lines. We learned it before the trig proof, unfortunately the trig proof was simpler so I forgor

Anonymous No. 16266557

>>16157558
I LOVE YOU, It's right there, basic congruence and orthogonality

lol

Love it

From Basic Mathematics, Serge Lang:
"There are two basic aspects of geometry: the Pythagoras theorem, and
the notion of congruence...You will see
how easy some of the usual properties of triangles are to prove, if one starts
with the Pythagoras theorem.
Taking the Pythagoras theorem and the general properties of isometries...provides the intuitive basis for the study of perpendicularity (and ultimately of orthogonality in vector spaces in subsequent
courses in linear algebra).

page 121:

"gle in Fig. 5-22 are the sides PQ and PM.
In our development of geometry, we adopt the following attitude. We
take for granted certain basic properties about lines (mentioned before),
perpendicularity, and figures like right triangles and rectangles whose main
features have to do with perpendicularity. These will be stated as explicitly
as possible, to make the situation psychologically satisfactory, I hope. We
then prove properties about other geometric figures from these."

Again, PRESUMES PERPENDICULARITY

Which is why he prefaced the into of the theorem with the statement that the study of this theorem encourages later study of orthogonality and linear algebra, because, you know, derivatives and integrals have nothing to do with lines in linear algebra or anything

lmfao

This is seriously fd up, it's an attack on White European history and science, because they are trying to suggest that their advanced nigger math can be separate and distinct from the White countries producing the greatest art, science, magic, reasoning, and fin civilization

that's what these niggers and joos are all about with this fake ass proof lmao

Anonymous No. 16266559

>>16158880
Incorrect.

cogito ergo sum and primum movens, reasoning is definitely NOT always circular

next

Anonymous No. 16266567

>>16161723
>>there is nowhere in this universe that plane geometry is legitmate

Oh except, you know, cartography, astronomy, microscopy, perspective drawing and parallax distance-vector parameterizations and fucking quantum field emissions with fucking lasers and shit

yeah totally fin useless

lmao

another fakeass

Anonymous No. 16266570

>>16163758
Found the angry joo

Anonymous No. 16266574

>>16166897
A glass window
A glass mirror

your move, fake ass lib nigger

Anonymous No. 16266577

>>16266548

Literally put your finger on the screen and count the squares.

Anonymous No. 16266590

>>16170223
No, we're much different species
Did we are VERY different

As if polar bears and brown bears aren't breeding in the Arctic or as if people haven't bred doberman pinschers with chihuahuas

Either interspecies breeding DOES EXIST and we're different species or the rest of biological mammalian reality just doesn't exist

We're different species.
joos have had to stretch their stops necks out pretty far to continue using the subhuman niggers as weapons against themselves and their self-professed liberators, the White European and White American

Anonymous No. 16266600

>>16173886
But you didn't say anything at all lol

Anonymous No. 16266606

>>16179777
Yeah... for me, they start with Prop 4, which assumes transposition over the plane...


... but, generally, over the heat majority of propositions, it's badass. But you need to sit down and memorize the constructions and backward proofs to understand how truly great and shattering that work was.

Do the work.

Anonymous No. 16266612

>>16181580
100%, bunch of old white christcuck boomers and lowiq genxers doing this shit with their joo buddies in politics and middle management

"we need to include the subhuman species to preach the gospel of tolerance to cannibals and rapists, hurt, let's applause them for fake math so we can talk about muh jeebus"
100 fin percent

Anonymous No. 16266616

>>16197318
Does it exist
Are you looking at it right now
Are you thinking about it

Anonymous No. 16266622

>>16205982
scenery never changes unless you're head of the pack, sucka

Anonymous No. 16266625

>>16206915
Oh, but we do, we do.
Just in infinitely MANY of them.

Anonymous No. 16266634

>>16237588
joos thought to throw out opportunity by redefining equity in DEI because they know Affirmative Action is being eliminated

They thought they could get ahead of it by forcing their joo agents in international banking cartels to reassess usa federal tax investments in niggardom through dei

their logic was that eliminating opportunity equals getting ahead of eliminating discrimination (AA is opposite of preferential treatment based on race, AA is WITHOUT REGARD to race)

Well, hey, now we get to pick and choose, but joos gamed banking cartels to withhold bond yields and to generate fake stats to give their nigger-crime army a free handout

Anonymous No. 16266637

>>16256131
damn lmao

Anonymous No. 16266639

>>16264595
Seconding this

Anonymous No. 16266651

>>16266639
Firsting this, but not that other one

Anonymous No. 16266655

>>16266639
Oh uneducated white libs and low iq joos are angry now lmao

why don't you just filter it out or read something else lol

No, your on 4chins, you have to kill the speech, Direct from Twitter Facerape Reddiculous IT'S BUTTHURT NIGGER LIIIVE

Anonymous No. 16266759

>>16266639
Only 30 away
We can do it bros

Anonymous No. 16266761

>>16266655
Fag

Anonymous No. 16266790

>>16266655
Meds

Anonymous No. 16267281

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Anonymous No. 16268034

ONLY IN AMERICA
Nowhere else on this planet do people of African descent become world famous mathematicians, this happens in one place and in only one place
ONLY IN AMERICA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BL4RNFr58
ONLY IN AMERICA

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Anonymous No. 16269136

>>16123455
Just goes to show that people who study math are as smart as African high school girls

Anonymous No. 16269204

>>16218306
If you made a triangle three billion lightyears wide but only one atom in thickness it would still remain flat

Anonymous No. 16269208

Reminder the smartest mathematician in history was an uneducated pajeet who died at 32 from diseases associated with living in human shit. If he can do it so can two young amerineggresses

Anonymous No. 16269987

>>16269204
no it wouldn't

Anonymous No. 16270656

>>16158566
>Does science know what causes it?
miscegenation

Anonymous No. 16272331

>>16266514
>circular reasoning
>trigonometry
thats the joke
also something about triangulation

Anonymous No. 16272375

>>16266528
This shit. It works no matter what. I think I even had this on my GRE when I went to grad school iirc.

Anonymous No. 16272386

>>16269987
Yes, it would, without any obstructions you could see from one end to the other and observe a straight convergence towards the horizon

Anonymous No. 16272927

>>16269208
>smartest mathematician in history
Not even close. There are multiple working mathematicians today who are smarter than him.

Anonymous No. 16273653

>>16272386
no you couldn't

Anonymous No. 16273660

>>16272927
>multiple
name tao + one other

Anonymous No. 16275520

>>16268034
negroes in america have the highest standard of living, longest life expectancy and best education of people of african descent anywhere on the planet, yet all they do it complain constantly about how its not good enough for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1NmNBgf9E

Anonymous No. 16275729

>>16131221
That's not how distance works in the complex plane, retard. Distance between 1 and i here would be square root of (1-0)^2 + (0-1)^2, it'll be root 2, not 0

Anonymous No. 16275733

>>16123455
>circular argument
>prove
>without
Am I recognizing something?

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Anonymous No. 16276648

>>16273653
Ignoring the truth doesn't make it go away

Anonymous No. 16276653

>>>/pol/

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Anonymous No. 16279889

>>16276653
why does seeing that negroes are better than you at math upset you so badly. instead of getting angry at the negores maybe you should be angry at yourself for not studying harder

Anonymous No. 16280409

cannot multiply untill your state has been defined. :)

because quantum meachaniques :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5IbaeOrak&list=RDGMEMQ1dJ7wXfLlqCjwV0xfSNbAVMVS5IbaeOrak&start_radio=1

Anonymous No. 16280412

>>16280409
evne wors ther is 2 quantummechaniques one mathematical one physcial do you understand the joke :)

Anonymous No. 16280701

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Why is this board so racist? /sci/ is legit worse than /pol/ at this point. I never forget a post here saying if someone is not a jew they would sew a dead jew's nose to their face and cut it off and feed it to them. along with a photo of a jew blowing up the twin towers.

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Meanwhile, China is serious about their research in weapons, space flight, and energy and this thread is a shining example of why America will fall.