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Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 06:57:35 UTC No. 16137023
Why do scientists brazenly maintain this antiquated model of Earth's core?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 07:53:19 UTC No. 16137047
>>16137023
Cause it looks like a jawbreaker and those are delicious.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 07:55:42 UTC No. 16137049
>>16137023
its an approximation, like bohr's atom. It isnt wrong, just not precise
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 08:47:03 UTC No. 16137080
Hollow earth is such fascinating theory - a whole new world, ecosystem, maybe even civilization. Far superior to flat earth which is just thinly veiled religious screeching. Hollow earthers are much more trustworthy because they don't have ulterior motives and simply want to have fun.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 13:25:13 UTC No. 16137249
>>16137080
Fixed overhead inner sun gets old real fast though.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 13:51:45 UTC No. 16137268
>>16137023
What do you mean? I don't understand your image.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:13:04 UTC No. 16137271
>>16137023
yeah i guess there is a massive ocean of liquid metal near the core
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:15:26 UTC No. 16137273
>>16137271
That's what the official Science(tm) says. The official narrative is that the inner core is solid but the outer core is liquid metal, mostly iron and nickel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
So what's the contention?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 19:12:24 UTC No. 16137630
>>16137271
>>16137273
The ocean they are talking about isn't the outer liquid core.
>This underground water supply rests some 400 miles (700 km) beneath our feet. Notably, this find could help explain the origin of our planet's water. Specifically, it may help us determine where Earth's seas came from.
>It is important to note that the water resides inside a blue rock called "ringwoodite." This rock exists in the mantle of our planet, which is the layer of hot rock between Earth's surface and its core. This means that the newly discovered "ocean" isn't a vast reservoir of churning blue water. Instead, the water is contained (trapped) in the molecular structure of minerals that is found within Earth's mantle rock.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 19:19:03 UTC No. 16137636
>>16137023
Serious question: why doesn’t the water in the ocean work its way through cracks down to the inside of the earth?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Apr 2024 20:03:57 UTC No. 16137723
>>16137636
Theres water inside the earth, below the ocean.
Basically water doesnt like to be there, because it turns into steam, and it tries to work its way up since gas flows up.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:16:49 UTC No. 16138958
>>16137723
water is supercritical at that point, it doesn't turn into steam
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:33:38 UTC No. 16139113
>>16138958
It still tries to find its way up, even by random convection it does, same as natural gas.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:24:48 UTC No. 16139561
>>16137636
it most certainly does. Rocks have large faults and microscopic fractures, cavities and pores, and water seeps through them, everywhere, including deep into the crust, waaaaay the fuck down there, far below the ocean.
Not just that those rocks then dive into the mantle, when the oceanic crust is subducted below continental crust, and that water, in those rocks, gets dragged down with it. As a matter of fact, there are metamorphic rocks that can only form under those circumstances of tremendous pressure, heat, and water.
- a geologist :)
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:26:07 UTC No. 16139563
>>16137630
>The ocean
it's not an ocean like the surface ocean, it's just a huge amount of water locked in the rocks.
see:
>>16139561
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:28:08 UTC No. 16139565
>>16137023
>antiquated
Though the diagram has no scale to verify the dimensions, structure-wise, that is how the core is layered, yes. (as best as we can tell with our instrumentation, obviously)
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:20:58 UTC No. 16139864
>>16137023
They know they can say whatever they want about the Earth core because they know for certain that they will never been disproved since the deepest boreholes don't even go down 15 miles.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:41:55 UTC No. 16139887
>>16139864
If it was wrong you could analyze the seismic data yourself and do the math
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:47:52 UTC No. 16139898
>>16137630
they literally say it in the title, ocean NEAR earth's core. the title and underground "oceans" are brainrot
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:46:12 UTC No. 16141357
>>16139887
>you could analyze the seismic data
thats just a fallacy which has long since been disproved
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:00:17 UTC No. 16141427
>>16137023
Read Baxter's hard sci-fi books Ark and Flood. He used the early papers predicting the sub crustal ocean in Flood to get enough sea level rise for the plot. All the melted ice on Earth only gave him about 1/4 the sea level rise the plot needed so in his story earthquakes crack the crust and allow the sub crustal ocean to leak to the surface and give us 400+ feet of sea level rise.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:05:50 UTC No. 16141438
>>16137723
>Theres water inside the earth, below the ocean.
Water dissolving and water removing
There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Under the water, carry the water
Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean
Water dissolving and water removing
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:15:39 UTC No. 16141544
>>16141357
>vibrations travelling through something is a fallacy and has been disproved
Mental retardation
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:52:11 UTC No. 16141561
>>16141544
you only believe in that junk because you have no experience with it
>nooooo!!!
>i know its true because i saw it in a documentary on the soience channel on tv
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:41:37 UTC No. 16142527
>>16139887
>If it was wrong you could analyze the seismic data yourself and do the mat
All you have is a scientific model to explain the behavior of waves. It the observations of waves fit the theory of waves, then its scientifically true. However you will never have direct evidence of what the earth is really like, just indirect through its effect on waves.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:32:34 UTC No. 16143465
>>16142527
Every time a new deep borehole is drilled, whats observed at the deepest depths is contrary to what the (((experts))) have claimed they would find. The soientists' predictions are never even close to being accurate. All of their "but muh seismic waves" claptrap is a bunch of lies, they have no idea whats going on down there, but they do know that nobody has any way of disproving their claims of knowing whats going on down there, so they publish them anyway. It will be centuries before anyone penetrates even 100 miles down, let a lone seeing whats going on in the core.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:38:22 UTC No. 16143620
>>16137080
>agartha schizos are back on the menu
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 14:31:21 UTC No. 16143806
>>16137047
Science should be based on more delectable models. For example, I really love the physics idea of spaghettification.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:03:48 UTC No. 16143966
>>16143620
>welcome to Agartha, bitch
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 03:25:50 UTC No. 16144707
>>16143465
>It will be centuries before anyone penetrates even 100 miles down, let a lone seeing whats going on in the core.
And until then soience will be dishonestly claiming they know exactly whats going on down there, because thats how soientists earn their living, by lying.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:14:21 UTC No. 16144925
>>16137023
>>16139565
By the way, the "ocean" isn't what you're imagining: it's just water locked microscopically within fractures and rock pores. However, the volume of rock we're talking about is so large, that the amount of water locked down there is enormous, on the sale of oceans.
In regards to the life down there: well, microbes can penetrate and live deep in the rocks within those said fractures and pores. Again, the volumes of rocks we're talking about are planetary-scale, so the total mass of all those lifeforms is huge.
How do we know this? We find life in rocks we drill from deep down there, and they're not contaminants from the surface since they are species of microbes which we simply cannot find alive on the surface, they can only survive under the conditions found down there.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:16:38 UTC No. 16144927
>>16144707
>claiming they know exactly whats going on down there
wrong, these are theories, some even still hypotheses, all earth sciences know this, myself included, so get off your arrogant high horse, smart ass.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:28:10 UTC No. 16145952
>>16144927
Those theories are based on ideas that have been disproved
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:43:27 UTC No. 16145985
Hmm, I wonder if I can blame this on the Jews somehow
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:43:25 UTC No. 16146203
>>16137723
Water also becomes Incorporated in the chemistry of the rock. Just look at what happens to the subduction of oceanic crust under neath the continental crust
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:18:47 UTC No. 16147558
>>16144925
Supercritical H2O doesn't behave like normal water
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:25:57 UTC No. 16147575
>>16141561
>sound is fake
Great hypothesis, can't wait for your paper and evidence
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:02:10 UTC No. 16148293
>>16147575
the people who claim they know whats in the center of the planet have no idea what they're talking about, that has already long since been proved. you only still believe them because you're an irrational soiyentism religious cultist
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:35:58 UTC No. 16148374
>>16137080
Why does earth need to be hollow for an underground civilization to exist? There are huge cave systems still being discovered to this day.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:42:49 UTC No. 16149195
>>16148374
Caves are hollow
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:04:15 UTC No. 16149230
>>16148293
You don't have to look inside a bottle to know it's filled with water when you know exactly how much it should weigh and what its properties are, most information is directly extrapolatable from other known behaviours of observed things.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:30:15 UTC No. 16150757
>>16149230
the bottle could be filled with any substance of the same density and you'd never be able to tell the difference
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:33:41 UTC No. 16150768
>>16137023
Mind discussing your up-to-date and correct model them? I'm all ears.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:35:00 UTC No. 16150774
>>16150757
And I can guarantee that other substance has a different chemical makeup and atomic lattice which would give it different properties
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 00:00:10 UTC No. 16150822
>>16137080
>>16143620
An ancient civilization at the center of the earth
Where mister Hitler waits for the Reich’s next birth
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 06:28:28 UTC No. 16151275
>>16144925
>How do we know this? We find life in rocks we drill
>from deep down there
We don't drill that far. We barely pierce the crust; these water-infused rocks are beyond the mantel near the core.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 06:32:01 UTC No. 16151279
>>16150822
I thought he was on the south pole, on the moon.
Anonynous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 00:58:52 UTC No. 16152520
>>16137080
>Hollow earth is such fascinating theory - a whole new world, ecosystem, maybe even civilization. Far superior to flat earth which is just thinly veiled religious screeching. Hollow earthers are much more trustworthy because they don't have ulterior motives and simply want to have fun.
This conspiratard meme is sponsored by King Kong vs Godzilla
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 18:56:30 UTC No. 16153547
>>16151275
The "rocks" down there don't have pores, they're liquid and the "water" is supercritical H2O
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 05:17:37 UTC No. 16154248
>>16150774
such as?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 06:02:42 UTC No. 16154269
>>16154248
Are you retarded? If it isn't water it's something else, which means it would react differently to any experiments you might subjugate it to, because different elements react differently to different things, who would've guessed.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 03:04:27 UTC No. 16155766
>>16154269
you can't thing of a single way to tell the difference between water and some other substance of the same density because you're a pseud
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 04:11:36 UTC No. 16155866
>>16155766
I'm sorry you didn't go to school but that doesn't apply for all of us.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 05:19:36 UTC No. 16155926
>>16137271
I read the subcore is an 8 mile diameter of "crystallized nickel silicide".
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 05:29:50 UTC No. 16155939
>>16154248
conductivity. Based on the element's electronegativity and valence electrons.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 05:38:17 UTC No. 16155947
>>16155926
>crystallized nickel silicide is a class of intermetallic compounds that are formed by the reaction of nickel and silicon at high temperatures. They have unique properties, such as low electrical resistivity and high thermal stability, and are used in a variety of applications, including microelectronics, electrical contacts, wear-resistant coatings, and structural components.
Cool. Earths core is probably generating 10,000 gigawatts every second.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 06:23:54 UTC No. 16156018
>>16137080
These are not theories they are hypothesis because there's no evidence for it
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 21:51:41 UTC No. 16156988
>>16155939
how do you plan on testing that through the walls of the bottle?
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:45:50 UTC No. 16158125
Anonymous at Sat, 4 May 2024 07:32:45 UTC No. 16158667
>>16155947
You can make up whatever soience stories you want about the Earth's core since you know nobody will ever see it in your lifetime. Maybe its made out of dark matter.
Anonymous at Sun, 5 May 2024 05:30:53 UTC No. 16160180
>>16158667
>NOOOOOOO, ITS MADE OUT OF BLACK HOLES!!!!
>I CAN SENSE IT IN THE VIBRATIONS!!!
>YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE ME!!!!!
>TRUST THE SOIYENCE!!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 00:59:04 UTC No. 16161561
>>16137023
Because scientists are all fundamentally dishonest people
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 01:23:23 UTC No. 16161581
>>16137023
Prove that it's not correct. I'll be waiting, OP.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 02:06:13 UTC No. 16161610
>>16137023
>>16137047
imagine believing in jawbreaker earth theory
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 18:03:17 UTC No. 16162568
using seismometers to map the earth's core is akin to using divining rods to map groundwater, both are just dumb voodoo tier superstitions that only an idiot could be tricked by
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 18:48:17 UTC No. 16162655
>>16137023
yeah man why isnt it actually inside out and filled with cum ?
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 03:47:14 UTC No. 16163470
>I KNOW EXACTLY WHATS AT THE CENTER OF THE EARTH!!
>MUH VIBRATIONS!!
but also
>predict earthquakes or volcanic eruptions? no i can't do that, can't even get close
so that pretty much proves they have no idea what they're talking about and all of the knowledge they brag about are just empty guesses. if they really knew how the planet was constructed they would be able to predict earthquakes
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 10:59:30 UTC No. 16163790
>>16137023
Does "Earth" even have an "inside"? Probably not.
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 13:57:37 UTC No. 16163965
>>16163470
Saying you can predict an earthquake or volcanic eruption is like saying you could predict how many pieces of glass a vase shattered into if you took that vase, locked it in a shipping container and dropped it into the middle of the ocean.
you'd have to have extremely precise, large-scale observations of interactions between continental plates at an almost molecular level throughout tens or hundreds of square kilometres of rock pressed tightly up against other, barely distinguishable rock, all of which is happening hundreds of metres or even kilometres underground. it's a wonder that we get any warning at all.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 19:19:15 UTC No. 16164443
>>16163470
Soientists are good at making grandiose, nondisprovable claims of superior knowledge, but they're incapable of using their supposedly superior intellect to do anything useful and that proves that their supposedly superior intellects are a lie and that their nondisprovable claims of superior knowledge are equally false
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 19:19:43 UTC No. 16164444
An ocean of lava yes
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 19:27:08 UTC No. 16164462
>>16137049
>It isn't wrong
Can you please show me the scientific proof of this claim? I was not aware we have gone down to the core so we could make this claim. I'm eager to see the evidence you surely have
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 20:21:49 UTC No. 16164557
>>16164462
Just like how a change in transparent material causes light to be bent, the same happens for sound waves. in this case, when an earthquake happens, very minor shocks can be detected all over the planet, since the shockwave can travel through the planet. but if there are layers in the earth with significantly different properties, youd expect the shockwave to be bent when in travels in, which is exactly what happens, meaning we can make an educated guess at what the density and composition are of whatever is down there if we do the math on how much the waves were refracted, as well as how thick the layer is.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 20:36:45 UTC No. 16164593
>>16164557
>Every time a new deep borehole is drilled, whats observed at the deepest depths is contrary to what the (((experts))) have claimed they would find. The soientists' predictions are never even close to being accurate. All of their "but muh seismic waves" claptrap is a bunch of lies, they have no idea whats going on down there, but they do know that nobody has any way of disproving their claims of knowing whats going on down there, so they publish them anyway. It will be centuries before anyone penetrates even 100 miles down, let a lone seeing whats going on in the core.
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 20:39:46 UTC No. 16164601
>>16137023
Who cares what's in this gay ass core anyway, its not like we can get there.
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 20:47:52 UTC No. 16164621
>>16164601
I've been there thoughever.
Anonymous at Wed, 8 May 2024 05:19:42 UTC No. 16165280
>>16164593
Well golly, anon, consider me stumped. I thought decades of observations, evidence and rock solid peer reviewed papers was going to be difficult to disprove, but if some retard on 4chan going "nuh uh" is enough to overturn centuries of research, I just don't know what to believe anymore. maybe I'll pick up fascism and start saying jews are lying about science for no reason.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 8 May 2024 20:58:45 UTC No. 16166369
>>16164593
We know what the weather is going to be like in 100 years even though we also can't predict accurately what its going to be like in 3 days.
t. soience
Anonymous at Wed, 8 May 2024 23:25:10 UTC No. 16166571
>>16166369
Climate is not weather, anon. I can say that 100 years from now, just about half of any chunk of nickel-63 will have decayed into another material, but that doesn't mean i can predict whether someone will find a hunk of it lying on a bench in some lab and throw it in some kind of industrial-strength rock blender.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 00:11:45 UTC No. 16166601
>>16147558
And how the FUCK are you gonna have life in hot supercritical water?
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 00:29:30 UTC No. 16166620
>>16166601
Extremophiles have lived in worse. Only place on earth that we can't find life is in the dallol hot springs, which are fascinating in their own right, I'm personally obsessed with the danakil depression in general. highly recommend reading up about it a little.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 02:00:20 UTC No. 16166682
>>16161581
Still waiting on that proof, OP.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 15:53:26 UTC No. 16167503
Is there a reason we don't just make a large scale digging operation or is just that nobody really cares? I can see how space exploration presents many technological obstacles but digging a giant hole not so much.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 16:25:15 UTC No. 16167557
>>16166571
Climate is an average of weather. Weather systems are full of extremely complicated feedback loops. If you can't model the feedback loops well enough to model weather beyond a few days, how can you predict an average of weather 100 years hence?
Climate modelling is an inherently unscientific endeavour because the models are unfalsifiable in our lifetimes.
Every model that purports to "recreate" or "predict the current climate from a past starting point" have been arcanely manipulated to fit a very narrow timeframe of observations, but then become rapidly unreliable as soon as they get more than a few years into the future, mirroring how we can forecast the weather a few days in advance thanks to our crude weather models which we can plug recent weather observations into. They work a little bit, but the errors and deficiencies in the model rapidly multiply as soon as you deviate from observation.
This isn't a resolution problem with the models either. It's not something that is or can be improved with higher resolution models - higher models actually multiply the uncertainties because they increase the number of interacting parts.
Consider a weather or climate model that uses air cells of 100km x 100km. To some extent we can simplify the behaviour within each cell, and each cell affects the behaviour of adjacent cells on the next time slice.
If you "improve" the model with a reduction in cell size of 10kmx10km, then the behaviour within each individual cell MIGHT be modelled more accurately (though this isn't guaranteed), but you've now got 10x as many cell interactions, with all the concomitant errors accumulating with every interaction.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 20:52:47 UTC No. 16167944
>>16167557
>Climate modelling is an inherently unscientific endeavour because the models are unfalsifiable in our lifetimes.
Thats not the only unscientific thing about them
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 20:57:02 UTC No. 16167951
>>16166682
Still waiting on that proof, OP.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 21:12:29 UTC No. 16167969
>>16167557
I think someone needs to catch up on what technology can do. A blur function in excel literally predicts all particle interactions and life. I am sure we can model the climate.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 10 May 2024 06:05:40 UTC No. 16168601
>>16167951
Its already been proved wrong by the findings in experiments such as the kola borehole
Anonymous at Fri, 10 May 2024 06:56:42 UTC No. 16168645
>>16168601
??? NTA but the kola borehole did not come even close to hitting the bottom of the crust, how did any of its findings contradict our model of earth's layers?
Anonymous at Fri, 10 May 2024 09:47:29 UTC No. 16168756
>>16167969
lol
lmao even
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 11 May 2024 00:26:33 UTC No. 16169913
>>16168645
right, it barely scratched the surface and even with that shallow of a hole it still found that all of the predictions made by >muh soience were completely wrong.
if soience can't even predict what will be found at 10km depth then just imagine how wrong they must be about whats at 100km and 1000km depth
Anonymous at Sat, 11 May 2024 02:52:34 UTC No. 16170095
>>16169913
Every day I'm reminded just how braindead the denizens of this fucking board are and I have to thank you for not letting me forget
Anonymous at Sat, 11 May 2024 03:23:18 UTC No. 16170145
>>16166620
Wiki page says they found life there
Anonymous at Sat, 11 May 2024 13:07:17 UTC No. 16170710
>>16170145
Ah, that's news to me. After reading the study, though, it sounds less like they found life in the pools and more like they found life living inside hollow mineral deposits thar happened to be in the pools. that doesn't mean that those organisms can survive direct exposure to the pools' contents.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 04:22:45 UTC No. 16171772
>>16170095
the soience you memorized out of your school textbooks and took on faith is completely wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 22:11:05 UTC No. 16172925
>>16171772
Heresy!
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:12:06 UTC No. 16173057
>>16171772
>t. chronic contrarian
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:36:17 UTC No. 16173713
>>16141561
Hey I actually worked at a seismological laboratory, and it seems you have some doubts about seismic waves and its propagation through the earth. How can I help you?
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:38:11 UTC No. 16173715
>>16143465
>nobody has any way of disproving their claims
that's not true, there are competing ideas in seismology and they too get put to the test; some turn out to be WRONG, meaning that you too are so.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:40:06 UTC No. 16173720
>>16144707
>claiming they know exactly whats going on down there
No, they do not. All geoscientists know that these are MODELS.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:41:13 UTC No. 16173721
>>16145952
>Those theories are based on ideas that have been disproved
No, the current models rest on ideas not yet disproven.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:44:35 UTC No. 16173723
>>16161561
I'm serious
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:46:38 UTC No. 16173724
>>16162568
not really, it's based on the knowledge of seismic wave propagation, which is already quite well understood since you can study it in labs and even observe it near the surface. Unfortunately, it's the only technology we have to prove so deep into the earth, for now.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:50:03 UTC No. 16173725
>>16163965
you can predict volcanic eruptions, yes. Obviously, not a decade in advance, but a few days, maybe weeks, it's possible and it has been done in places like Iceland and Hawaii.
Earthquakes, for now, still unpredictable, as far as I know, but we do know where they tend to happen and how often they tend to happen, which in a way is an accurate "prediction", though not temporally precise at all.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:52:12 UTC No. 16173726
>>16164593
>Every time a new deep borehole is drilled, whats observed at the deepest depths is contrary to what the (((experts))) have claimed they would find.
as a professional geologist, believe me, you are wrong. The deeper we have probed, the more pressure we found in the rocks and the higher the temperature.
These sources you are putting your faith on, I wouldn't anon, I wouldn't.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:53:17 UTC No. 16173728
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:55:49 UTC No. 16173732
>>16167503
Russia drilled to about 15km before the project ended. That's it, that's the deepest ever.
The only other way we find samples of rocks from deeper still is either through volcanism, or tectonics/erosion.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:58:16 UTC No. 16173739
>>16169913
>the predictions made by muh soience were completely wrong.
What exactly do you mean by this, was the rock cold? Was the surrounding rock not under extreme pressures?
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:59:17 UTC No. 16173743
>>16170145
>there
Not at the mantle-core boundary, no.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:00:28 UTC No. 16173746
>>16173724
>to prove
to probe*
apologies
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:13:56 UTC No. 16173853
>>16173725
I defer to you, seismologist-anon. I feel like i was probably tired when i claimed that volcanic eruptions are unpredictable, lol. It's hard to imagine having a way to accurately predict earthquakes even a day ahead of time, though. maybe putting infrasound detectors right on top of the fault, as well as drilling a borehole into the fault to have more accurate seismograph stations? those have probably already been done, though.
Vaguely adjacent question: Do you think "earthquake lights" are real, or are they just transformers exploding?
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:15:55 UTC No. 16173858
>>16173743
That anon was talking about the hydrothermal pools at the dallol hydrothermal system. You probably already know how cool it is, but look it up anyway.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:21:30 UTC No. 16173866
>>16173853
In regards to earthquake prediction research, AI is looking very promising:
>the AI algorithm correctly predicted 70% of earthquakes a week before they happened
https://phys.org/news/2023-10-ai-dr
As far as earthquakes lights, they are real, we just don't know exactly what's going on yet, though we have some ideas proposed, but it's not like we can set up an experiment for the next earthquake because well, we don't know where and when they will next happen, but as seen above, that might be changing very soon. We'll see.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 04:20:06 UTC No. 16174977
>>16167503
the drilling materials melt at the temperatures deeper than 15km
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 21:36:26 UTC No. 16176147
>>16137023
they abuse the peer review process to gatekeep anyone who disagrees with them. that way they never have to admit they're capable of being wrong about anything
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 09:14:16 UTC No. 16176853
>>16171772
People don't like to hear this because they don't to admit all the effort they wasted on memorizing lies, but thats really how it is
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 23:54:59 UTC No. 16177681
>>16176147
Reminds me of the Galileo trial. Modern science is the same as those inquisitioners, anyone who disputes the mainstream conventional wisdom gets excommunicated
Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 20:11:09 UTC No. 16178820
>>16176853
Part of the reason religious cult brainwashing works is that the victims have sunk cost fallacy over the lies they've memorized. This effect is particularly bad in the soientism religion
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 06:18:53 UTC No. 16179438
>>16137023
Because they know they can spin whatever grandiose lies they want so long as they control the peer review process.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 15:20:03 UTC No. 16180000
>>16139561
Imagine riding along with the water molecules over thousands of years
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 15:21:52 UTC No. 16180002
>>16137023
I am very surprised no-one has mentioned oil yet.
Without starting a flame war, what are the implications?
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 04:41:21 UTC No. 16180991
>>16180002
Oil is extracted from rock at depths below 5km by various gases and fluids which in a supercritical state at the depth, it works the same way supercritical solvent extraction does in laboratories, the solvent releases its extract ones the pressure on the solvent becomes low enough that it can no longer maintain the supercritical state.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 05:01:00 UTC No. 16181008
>>16137023
>Why do scientists brazenly maintain this antiquated model of Earth's core?
The two articles you listed don't contradict the model...
Yes, for many kilometers below the earth's surface there are micro-organisms living in rocks in very low concentrations. Also there is a tiny amount of water in almost all rocks.
There are even pockets of super-pressurized water, air etc.
No it isn't literally an inverted ocean and amazon forest inside the Earth you dumb fuck.
Low concentrations of life deep in the Earth can easily exceed that at the surface because you're comparing huge amounts of volume with just the two dimensional surface of the Earth.
This is the same reason for why the most common fish in the ocean is a deep-sea bioluminescent fish.
Although there is a far greater concentration of fish at the sea's surface a large volume of deep sea low concentration easily out-numbers it.
The fish are the Cyclothones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclo
Looks like the OP's in /sci/ are just as stupid as the OP's in any other board.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 20:56:30 UTC No. 16181976
>>16181008
>The two articles you listed don't contradict the model...
yes they do
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 22:18:54 UTC No. 16182066
>>16181976
>yes they do
No they don't.
Please explain how they do.
I've just explained why they don't.
Please use your own brain and explain yourself.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 19 May 2024 18:55:05 UTC No. 16183120
>>16176147
>academia: you should be more open minded
>also academia: if you don't believe in our fairy tales we'll excommunicate you
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 07:03:27 UTC No. 16184050
>>16182066
It does. The oceans emerged from inside the earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 07:36:03 UTC No. 16184087
>>16184050
No they didn't. the "oceans" they discovered are water trapped on a molecular level inside rocks. the ocean floor emerged from inside the earth though, a fact which supports the current model. almost all water on earth came from comets.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 08:33:54 UTC No. 16184151
>>16151279
The South Pole is the conduit between the cores of the Earth and Luna - which itself holds an atmosphere and it's own native wildlife.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 00:27:37 UTC No. 16185356
>>16184087
>almost all water on earth came from comets.
pure science fiction
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 03:34:51 UTC No. 16185531
>>16185356
>be empiricist
>demand psychical, observable, and even testable evidence from anyone making a claim
>proceed to believe fantastical notions about history with no empirical basis
wtf is their problem?
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 21:34:44 UTC No. 16186798
>>16185531
>wtf is their problem?
low IQ
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 09:26:49 UTC No. 16187541
>>16185356
Where do you think earth's water came from, then? Do you think it was just a big blob floating around in space? you do know that water freezes in space, and that a big chunk of frozen water flying around in space with a little bit of dust is basically what a comet is, right?
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 21:02:21 UTC No. 16188521
>>16187541
>i'm a soiyence expert cause i watched the black soiyence man tv show
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 21:09:29 UTC No. 16188530
>>16186798
Registered.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 21:11:03 UTC No. 16188535
>>16185531
They just like the feeling of pretending they get to determine if something is reasonable or not. It's understandable.
Obviously it's wrong and self-annihilating too but it definitely scratches the reddit itch
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 09:31:24 UTC No. 16189227
>>16185531
popsci makes them believe a lot of stupid things
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 09:34:23 UTC No. 16189229
>>16188521
Just say where you think earth's water came from, if not from comets.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 09:43:15 UTC No. 16189233
>>16189229
i dont wanna discuss soience since its ickky. jesus created water so that white people could drink it
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 20:40:27 UTC No. 16190071
>>16137080
That's right Heil Hitler btw
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 07:09:04 UTC No. 16190746
>>16189233
>jesus created water so that white people could drink it
this but unironically
>>16190071
>Heil Hitler
this but unironically
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 10:58:07 UTC No. 16190942
Hey, someone who actually looked at the articles here. OP seems to somehow be implying that legitimate scientists are publishing papers that brazenly support hollow earth and yet criticizing them for also not believing it. Showing both news articles here is misleading.
The first one says "ocean" in quotes because it's being dramatic. It's reporting on seismic findings that there's a chunk of stuff matching ringwoodite's density in the mantle, which is a rock that can contain water, thus a metaphorical ocean. There's a lot more volume under the earth than on its surface, so there's room for enough water mixed in with rock to together have more volume than the surface water, which is what they suggest.
Original article: https://futurism.com/scientists-dis
Original paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien
The second article has an image of microorganisms because that's what it's referring to. It doesn't cite a particular paper, but it covers various findings from digging a few km down (still in the crust) and looking at the microbes they find there. "Deep Earth" is somewhat misleading, at least in this context: the rest of the article mostly uses "deep biosphere", as in the deepest parts of where we see life (which is apparently about 5km into the earth, but life in oceans gets deeper). The article also over-hypes some findings, like "the genetic diversity of life... is comparable to or exceeds that of above the surface", which probably means they don't really know, but the microbes' DNA varied about the same amount, and the scientists want to get paid.
Original article: https://phys.org/news/2018-12-life-
Basically, neither of the articles represent scientists supporting hollow earth because neither of them are about that at all, and their conclusions use the normal model of the earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 05:20:25 UTC No. 16192118
>>16190942
>OP seems to somehow be implying that legitimate scientists are publishing papers that brazenly support hollow earth
no he isn't
Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 23:35:46 UTC No. 16193331
>>16192118
Wall of text posts are invariably stupid, don't bother reading them
Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 09:50:51 UTC No. 16193840
>>16137023
>I know whats at the center of the Earth
>Prove me wrong
what a stupid useless branch of science, why can't they do something useful like learn how to predict earthquakes?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 12:32:34 UTC No. 16194073
>>16193840
Read the thread, dumbass.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 03:59:00 UTC No. 16195230
>>16143620
I think the best thing about agartha is that it could exist. Old scholars all retreating from society to focus on metaphysics, all conglomerating at some hard to reach geographically geometric point. Then they make an enclave that retreats from society as society encroaches by going underground. It's a society of rotating populations of new scholars that find it, and it's secreted away controlling the world and advancing technology.
It's like a pleasant illuminati that would accept you if you're smart enough to find them. It's peak modern myth.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 20:50:20 UTC No. 16196457
>>16193840
They don't have any useful abilities, thats why they put so much effort into publishing nonscientific pilpul. If they had useful abilities then they would be doing something useful with their lives other than spamming garbage into academic journals that nobody reads
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 06:51:52 UTC No. 16197235
>>16193840
if they could figure out how do that then they wouldn't publish it, they'd patent the method and sell it to the highest bidder, probably an insurance company, so that it could be exploited for maximum profit.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 07:21:03 UTC No. 16197289
>>16150822
Based hyperborea thread poster
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 22:55:42 UTC No. 16198346
>>16156018
Theres tons of observational evidence that geologists models of the Earth are completely wrong
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 06:55:23 UTC No. 16198789
>>16198346
there is no observational evidence that geologists' models of earth's deep regions are correct
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 07:46:19 UTC No. 16198823
>>16137023
>Why do scientists brazenly maintain this antiquated model
If "scientists" are sticking with the old model, then who came up with the new one?
In other words, who does your Wojak actually represent?
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 20:49:21 UTC No. 16199626
>>16193840
Because they're too stupid to do something like that, best they can do is publish useless fake theories and suck each other's cocks via the peer review circlejerk
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 21:22:35 UTC No. 16199698
>>16193840
>I know what our models predict is at the center of the Earth with the best data that we can gather
FTFY
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 05:59:09 UTC No. 16200310
>>16199698
that doesn't make any less useless wasteful or stupid
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 06:40:57 UTC No. 16200387
>>16167557
>going from 100x100 to 10x10 cells increases the number of interactions by 10
fucking kek, the absolute state of poo math
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:24:13 UTC No. 16200415
>>16200310
>understanding planet Earth better is useless, wasteful and stupid
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 18:15:30 UTC No. 16201135
>>16190746
Who said I was being ironic (I wasn't)?
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 18:33:19 UTC No. 16201158
>>16164462
As an addendum to >>16164557, I think the magnetic properties of earth, as well as the drift of its magnetic poles and occasional inversion, only make sense if a liquid ferromagnetic core exists. But as the other anon said, it's a model, it's only as precise as it needs to explain whatever observations you want to explain.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 00:25:42 UTC No. 16201703
>>16200415
they don't understand anything other than how to act like pompous know it alls and how how to get their lies through the peer review process. their dumb models can't even accurately predict the heat, pressure, composition and plasticity in rock 10km down
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 05:29:08 UTC No. 16202063
>>16201703
>their dumb models can't even accurately predict the heat, pressure, composition and plasticity in rock 10km down
But they're totally sure they know what its like 100km down or 1000km down.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 10:06:13 UTC No. 16202265
>>16201703
>act like pompous know it alls and how how to get their lies through the peer review process
manage your own subjective experiences, please. Let's stick to facts
>their dumb models can't even accurately predict the heat, pressure, composition and plasticity in rock 10km down
what are you referring to? can you show us an example?
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 10:14:41 UTC No. 16202272
>>16202063
>totally sure
see:
>>16199698
Knowing what the models say is not "totaly sure" about what is going on.
It's your fault if you interpret theories as fact.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 21:22:35 UTC No. 16203025
>>16202265
literally every borehole thats ever been drilled to that depth. you've never even taken a single geology class, yet you're leaping to the defense of the science as if you certain you know what you're talking about. why? why fake it like that when you zero knowledge of this topic?
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 21:42:35 UTC No. 16203040
>>16137080
>>16156018
>More mass more gravity/gravitational influence
>In the center of earth the gravity is "0" because the crust around it is the mass and it cancels itself out
>So if there's no gravity at the center, how can there be mass?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 07:04:08 UTC No. 16203744
>>16203025
>literally every borehole thats ever been drilled to that depth.
Still waiting for you to show us that evidence that at the bottom of any 10km+ deep borehole the temperatures and pressures do not increase as our models show. Models which are based, and constantly improved, on the conditions which we have found at those depths over the many centuries that we have been digging and drilling into the Earth.
>why fake it like that when you zero knowledge of this topic?
Well, not only have I taken geology classes, I have a degree in geology, have worked in geo laboratories, and taught classes.
Pic not relevant, just some eye candy for the thread.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 08:15:31 UTC No. 16203805
>>16203744
>the burden of proof is on you
sissy emotional discussion style, you're trying to win an argument and in the process you're resisting learning about geology. look it up yourself, you know where to since you're such an expert.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 09:20:21 UTC No. 16203868
>>16203805
are you going to show me evidence for your claim or not?:
>their dumb models can't even accurately predict the heat, pressure, composition and plasticity in rock 10km down
I'm waiting
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 22:36:51 UTC No. 16205267
>>16203868
read up about boreholes anywhere you like, they all produced results that disproved the stupid irrational theories of academics
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 22:38:37 UTC No. 16205271
>>16205267
>read up about boreholes anywhere you like
Oh, I have, countless times, it was my job.
Back up your claims, somehow, a link, anything, of STFU.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 00:37:55 UTC No. 16205491
>>16137023
>there's an amazing amount of life in the Earth's crust
>there's also "water" trapped in minerals in the mantle
>EVERYTHING WE KNOW IS A LIE
>>>/x/ you barely literate moron.
>>16137080
>Hollow earth is such fascinating theory
No it's not, you capeshit addicted, sóy guzzling redditor.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 21:52:21 UTC No. 16206816
>>16137023
earth is actually a moebius loop
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 07:15:25 UTC No. 16207412
>>16203744
what a stupid nonsensical drawing
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 08:27:50 UTC No. 16207469
>>16207412
>nonsensical drawing
what about it is nonsensical?
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:23:43 UTC No. 16208013
>>16164557
>meaning we can make an educated guess at what the density and composition are of whatever is down there if we do the math on how much the waves were refracted, as well as how thick the layer is
how do you come up with eight layers?
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:50:46 UTC No. 16208077
>>16208013
1/2
A seismic event vibrates the earth, and the vibration waves travel at about 7km/s or so. But the waves aren't the same, there being two basic types, the P and S waves. P waves are compression waves, they travel faster than S waves, and they arrive first before the S waves, and so they got called Primary waves. They go through all types of matter, including liquids. If you kick the side of a large tub, you will see the waves propagate in the water from where you kicked it in. You compressed that water and it is forced to spread out that compression onwards, and radially.
S waves are slower, and they are shear waves, meaning that the rocks get shaken sideways. If you not grab the large water tub and shake it, you'll see that thought the tub walls move, the water doesn't. You cannot shear water.
We have vast networks of seismometers spread all over the globe, and we carefully detect the timing of arrival of seismic waves, and the shape of the waves as they arrive.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:51:47 UTC No. 16208078
>>16208077
2/2
By measuring the timing difference between the P and S wave we know how far they came from; the further away, the fuirther the P wave is ahead of the S wave. If you have three such measurements, you can triangulate the origin of seismic events. But that's olde-school knowledge, In the many decades that have past since, modern seismology got going. With careful observation, data collection and analysis, and lab simulations, we have learned as well that differences in rock density affect how the waves travel through, reflect, scatter, deform, speed up or slow down, or even transform into yet different seismic waves types. We have build fairly robust models, and supercomputers can calculate and retrace wave paths through the earth now, sufficiently so that we can infer areas of different densities within the earth, and know where there is liquid, or near-liquid material, and where all the abrupt changes in density in the rocks are, and as it turns out, those differences define clear boundaries, concentric around the centre of the earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:57:02 UTC No. 16208595
>>16208078
extra, 3rd part
the reason we think the outer core is liquid is because of the shadow zone.
>>16203744
I wrote much about this stuff already, and there is plenty published online explaining all this. If you are truly curious, you can find it yourself.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 23:41:25 UTC No. 16208690
>>16206789
They have no idea whats below the Earth's crust, thats just more made up garbage thats based on the anti-science principle of non-disprovability. Scientific theories are disprovable, if they aren't disprovable then they aren't science.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 06:38:10 UTC No. 16209317
>>16208690
geology is mostly retarded. they can't predict volcanic eruptions or earthquakes or land slides.
the only thing they're good at is finding oil and even that is mostly just someone finding oil on the surface and saying "hmmm maybe if we dig here we'll find even more oil"
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 07:07:36 UTC No. 16209344
>>16208690
>They have no idea whats below the Earth's crust
this too is for you:
>>16208077
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 07:18:04 UTC No. 16209349
>>16209317
>geology is mostly retarded. they can't predict volcanic eruptions or earthquakes or land slides.
We can predict volcanic eruptions, did you not see how the recent eruption in Iceland was anticipated with weeks in advance and a town was evacuated before the volcano erupted?
Mt. Saint Helens eruption was also predicted well in advance, the entire region was evacuated as well.
Earthquakes are much harder to predict, AI is looking very promising:
>the AI algorithm correctly predicted 70% of earthquakes a week before they happened
https://phys.org/news/2023-10-ai-dr
Landslides can sometimes be anticipated as well thanks to measurements of land surface creep and soil or rock pore fluid saturation, among other things.
>Monitoring Solutions predict the landslide and protect the population of Brienz in Switzerland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYh
It is a good general rule that when it rains much, the probability of landslides in steep slopes is increased, but, evidently, there are countless hills, mountains, cliffs and gorges on this planet, and we don't have sensors on every slope or cliff out there.