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Anonymous No. 16138410

What's YOUr take on the cause of placebo?

Anonymous No. 16138434

>>16138410
Sugar is actually a universal panacea. It just doesn't work that well.

Anonymous No. 16138435

>>16138410
I've been taking mushroom blend (lions mane, chaga, rishi, etc) powder in my coffee in the morning and the placebo effect, if nothing else, is pretty nice.

Anonymous No. 16139290

>>16138410
Human beings have a latent psionic ability and can influence our cellular behavior with sufficient faith.

Anonymous No. 16139291

>>16138410
i think humans might be capable of altering reality in a way we don't understand
ala latent psionics

Anonymous No. 16139319

>>16139291
Why did you copy my post? Are you an AI?>>16139291

Anonymous No. 16139392

My grandmother had diabetes. She stopped taking her medication some time after her 80th birthday, I suppose because she wanted to die.
That didn't kill her though, but she had a bad stroke because of it and was left brain damaged, then apparently also developed Alzheimer's, and kept getting worse.

At the beginning my grandfather was taking care of her, but he became senile too and my dad and uncles put them in a nursing home together.

They lasted a few years there, and then one night my grandfather died. My dad was called, and he brought my grandmother to see him one last time. She didn't say anything but according to him it seemed like she understood somewhat.

The following night she died too.

I believe that even though she had lost her mind, at some level she decided to die, or at least stopped wanting to live, once he was dead, and her body followed that decision.
So I think there is a link between the brain and the supposedly involuntary body functions.

Anonymous No. 16139443

>>16138410
statistics

Anonymous No. 16139501

>>16138410
Regression to the mean bruh

Anonymous No. 16139506

>>16139501
Then what selection / grouping error causes the regression to the mean in this case?

Anonymous No. 16140132

A symptom of medical field being rotten to the core, full of dimwits that misdiagnose people to make more money.

Anonymous No. 16141422

>>16140132
ok schizo

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>>16141422

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Anonymous No. 16141452

>>16140132

Anonymous No. 16141453

>>16139392
Your dad killed your grandma.

Anonymous No. 16141459

>>16138410
Information causes our brains to alter involuntary reflexes associated with the relevant area. Our brains have almost absolute control over bodily processes (except insofar as they're constrained by the laws of physics, defective organs, etc.) but we cannot consciously exercise that control. Consuming a placebo signals our brains to expect X processes to work differently to achieve Y, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy within the aforementioned limits. Being able to change e.g. your immune response based on external information is obviously evolutionarily beneficial, but it's linked to what we expect to happen rather than what we want to happen.

There's a broader connection here vis-a-vis sentience generally; an animal with a brain capable of basic reasoning and computation does not necessarily have conscious control over those capabilities. Nor do I believe that human knowledge and logical capacity is entirely limited to things of which we are consciously aware. For instance, we lack the ability to dictate what we believe is fair. But as with autonomic systems your sense of justice can be altered by external information/circumstances or—less commonly—extensive internal reflection.

Anonymous No. 16141464

>>16138410
The same reason being mentally stressed out increases the chance physical illnesses.

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Anonymous No. 16141469

>>16138410
My bet is on some social-animal mechanism to reward/punish individuals for both placebo and nocebo. If that is true then sociopaths should be kinda immune to nocebo and trigger placebo at will.

Anonymous No. 16141473

>>16138410
tummo yoga