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Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:08:57 UTC No. 16145920
Is this true about nuclear energy?
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:31:24 UTC No. 16145959
>>16145920
There is a type of system that is paradoxical in that, the more you feed it, the hungrier it gets. Transportation is this way — create more roads, you create more traffic using them. Energy is another — the more energy you create, the more energy you use. These systems are non-conserved, and do not lend themselves to rationality. However they do lend themselves to the grifters that use them to exploit and extort, and to do that they centralize them.
The trick with energy is not to produce more, but to use less, and to use less you have to have fewer needs, and to have fewer needs requires that the system does not reward the creation of new needs that are only needed because of the problems the needs you now have are creating. Finding new energy sources will not do anything about a social management system that creates its own problems by rewarding the creation of new solutions to the problems the system creates by rewarding them.
Unless you stop that cycle by stopping the system, you will always be short energy, because, as the energy gets cheaper and easier to get, the things to do with that energy increase, creating new problems that need solutions, that need energy.
Exactly what the grifters want.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:33:36 UTC No. 16145965
>>16145920
What the fuck is this retard even blabbering about?
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:54:35 UTC No. 16146006
>>16145965
Retards don't tend to form coherent arguments
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:14:20 UTC No. 16146032
>>16145965
they are stepping up their attempts to smear others as "evil" as they genocide the Palestinians
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:19:05 UTC No. 16146035
>>16145920
very cool progressive hot take...
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:58:02 UTC No. 16146151
>>16145920
Yes, that's true. Leftists in the west oppose nuclear power because nuclear power doesn't involve disrupting social norms or arresting the "decadent" capitalist lifestyles that make communism look bad.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:02:34 UTC No. 16146157
>>16146032
how does genociding the Palestinians solve climate change for the jews?
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:16:17 UTC No. 16146175
>>16145920
that "person" ought to be thrown into a reactor core, but there is a decent argument that nuclear power reinforces authoritarian power structures, since it requires extensive capital investment and governmental oversight.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:21:01 UTC No. 16146183
>>16146175
>he should be murdered, also he's right
classic leftist
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 04:15:11 UTC No. 16146341
>>16146157
nice pilpul but again: they are stepping up their attempts to smear others as "evil" as they genocide the Palestinians
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:29:48 UTC No. 16147581
>>16146175
>since it requires extensive capital investment and governmental oversight.
>and governmental oversight.
governmental oversight is what hinders it most. there isn't anyone in the and government educated enough to know the first thing about nuclear power, all they know is that they want to prevent inexpensive, pollution free energy from replacing the big moneymakers they currently have for energy production
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:03:21 UTC No. 16148295
>>16147581
They also want to reserve the most powerful and best energy sources for their own armed military goons.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:07:50 UTC No. 16148988
>>16145920
Who the fuck actually cares? Its just a form of converting energy, why would you ask that
I mean, as far as I can tell, France ain't an oppressive government, even though they convert a high percentage of their energy via nuclear reactors
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:16:22 UTC No. 16148995
Look up Galen Winsor's presentation on why we are stopped from having nuclear power.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:49:52 UTC No. 16149024
about 2 posts out of 15 in this thread understood the tweet.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:52:50 UTC No. 16149560
>>16149024
The xitter post is incoherent, meaningless faggotbabble
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:33:18 UTC No. 16150526
>>16147581
That doesn't change the fact that significant levels of oversight are necessary because of how dangerous it can be. No government will ever let civilians manage fissile material without careful oversight. And yeah, politicians abuse that oversight to suppress nuclear power, but a pro-nuclear power government would still have multiple agencies dedicated to managing it because people are scared of spicy metals (sometimes even for rational reasons)
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:00:13 UTC No. 16150566
>>16145920
I was thinking recently about what would be the minimum size a nuclear reactor could be built and how much electricity would it produce over how long a time.
Could you build a reactor the size of a refrigerator for example that could power a family home for >10 years?
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:47:25 UTC No. 16150681
>>16145920
Throw spent nuclear fuel into the sea.
>Cheap
>Logistically simple
>Safe
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 10:17:03 UTC No. 16151478
>>16150566
Something like those already have been tested for spacecraft, but radiation shielding can be thicker than you could fit in a fridge so I wouldn't want to stand too close to the thing. In space they would just shield 1 side to protect the spacecraft, and then let the rest fly off into space since it wont hurt anything
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:08:36 UTC No. 16151639
>>16145965
/sci/ hates nuclear power as it does solve climate crisis with right wing chud way
Cult of Passion at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:56:31 UTC No. 16151701
>>16145929
You have the rebuttle in hand, right?
Couldnt just "let that slide" now could we?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:21:23 UTC No. 16151740
>>16145920
What does DAVOS say about nuclear power? They hate it, that's all you need to know.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:25:08 UTC No. 16151743
people still think it's about what's best for us and "the planet" instead of money power and absolute control. this is amazing.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:37:15 UTC No. 16152332
>>16145920
What absolute unintelligible nonsense. How did this idiot even convince his neuron impulses to generate such a idiotic social media post. Some people are far too gone and need to be lead to the pastures. This post may have just induced a psychotic snap in myself.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:57:52 UTC No. 16153458
>>16151743
many people are low IQ, over 1/3 of the population is below 85 IQ
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 18:36:37 UTC No. 16153509
>>16151639
The irony is that the same debate was repeated in the 1970s, but at the time, the people who were pro-Nuclear were all the woke leftists, chrsitians, and neoliberal authoritarians, and the anti-nuclear people were all the communists, hippies, conspiracy theorists, Russia sympathizers, and anti-science schizos. Nobel Prize winner Herbert Simon actually discusses the topic in his famous book Reason in Human Affairs, which was written at the time. These days, all the woke leftists and christian zionists oppose nuclear and all the so-called schizos and communists and neonazis support nuclear. That's why you have the US and EU dismantling nuclear reactors, while BRICS countries are building more of them. The specific policy positions have changed, but the general state of discourse has not changed much. In the 1970s anyone who disagreed with the mainstream position (which was pro-nuclear) was labeled an anti-American, pro-communist conspiracy theorists, and today in the 2020s anyone who disagrees with the mainstream position (which is now anti-nuclear) will be labeled an Anti-America, pro-Putin/pro-Hamas conspiracy theorist.
The positions change, but the normies will never want to debate or have genuine, good faith, discussions to figure out what po liucy would really be the best. These aren't treated as empirical problems subject to debate and discussion, and the collection and evaluation of evidence pro and con. Insteawd, the woke normies take a position, and anyone who disagrees with that particular position is a crazy weirdo anti-American neonazi conspiracy theorist.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 18:41:00 UTC No. 16153520
>>16153509
>Giant wall of text
>Cringe seething about Jews and America
Paleshits and vatniggers are peak cringe. Everything about this post just screams whiney incel.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 05:24:57 UTC No. 16154253
>>16151639
>/sci/ hates nuclear power as it does solve climate crisis with right wing chud way
How is using engineering and physics a "right wing chud way"?
Perpetually maintaining the false premise of global warming in order to generate gigabux profits for energy companies seems way more "right wing chud" to me than going for a rational solution to the problem, but "the problem" doesn't even exist, global warming is just a meme.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 05:38:45 UTC No. 16154260
>>16153509
The US population overall kind of likes nuclear now, since right wingers are mad about high energy prices and lefties like anything that doesn't emit CO2
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 05:41:31 UTC No. 16154263
>>16154260
I think polling indicates a 60/40 split in if they should build more plants, and congress is almost unanimous in pro-nuclear bills now
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 03:02:48 UTC No. 16155763
>>16154260
Thats a shame because coal has pretty much been perfected to the point that it's only remaining emissions are CO2, which is beneficial to the planet
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 21:16:07 UTC No. 16156942
>>16155763
Coal is too cost effective, efficient and clean. Thats why leftists hate it, they prefer dirtier more toxic and expensive energy sources that poor people can't afford, it gives them their smug sense of superiority and exclusiveness by pricing the poor out of the market
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 21:28:20 UTC No. 16156964
>>16145965
Commie gobbledygook.
He thinks that the since the 'climate crisis' (a stupidly broad term encompassing everything from plastics in the ocean, to global warming, to coral reef bleaching) is a big multifaceted thing, that any solution which only addresses one part of it is inadequate.
Commies believe that all of their problems, and all problems in general, will be solved by their utopia. And that any other solution than utopia is counterrevolutionary.
So, for this idiot, only one thing can solve the climate crisis, not a series of solutions for each problem, but one singular bullshit solution that doesn't exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 21:31:21 UTC No. 16156967
>>16153509
holy shit.
What the fuck are thee jumbo fries?
Notice how the two hot dog option is only 370 calories more than the single hotdog option.
Using math that means that the jumbo fries, alone, are 1690 calories!
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 00:00:05 UTC No. 16157083
>>16149024
Yes it's about disparity, which in the leftist's mind will always be the result of oppression despite all evidence to the contrary
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:42:35 UTC No. 16158119
>>16154253
>How is using engineering and physics a "right wing chud way"?
Thats because of how much the other side truly loves and respects science
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:57:03 UTC No. 16158141
>>16145920
Take him out and shoot him.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:58:04 UTC No. 16158143
>>16146341
And that’s a good thing.
Anonymous at Sat, 4 May 2024 22:21:03 UTC No. 16159730
>>16156967
most of the calories in the fries are from carcinogenic sneed oils
Anonymous at Sun, 5 May 2024 06:36:58 UTC No. 16160256
>>16145920
imagine the meltdowns when diversity comes to the nuclear power industry
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 05:15:57 UTC No. 16161753
>>16145920
Pretty much admitting that the global warming meme has nothing whatsoever to do with concern for the environment and only exists as a means to forward the jews' white genocide schemes.
Zack Kanter is jewish
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 13:42:36 UTC No. 16162257
>>16145920
>Is this true about nuclear energy?
no, it does not produce clean energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOW
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 19:39:48 UTC No. 16162775
>>16161753
>Zack Kanter is jewish
utterly shocking
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 19:44:48 UTC No. 16162788
>>16150526
Of course oversight is necessary, but forcing companies to spend tens of millions of dollars in regulation fees even before they’re allowed to present proposals for new plants to a community for their approval is ridiculous.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 19:47:11 UTC No. 16162800
>>16151478
Novel materials like borated polyethylene may allow for significantly smaller amounts of shielding in the future. But still, “fridge-sized” is overly optimistic for anything more complicated than an RTG
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 19:50:11 UTC No. 16162811
>>16154263
And yet states are shutting down nuclear plants in droves. Iowa lost the DUAC facility a couple years ago and that was previously providing 20% of the state’s electricity. Yet it’s been replaced with more coal and oil (and a pitiful handful of wind and solar)
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:17:17 UTC No. 16163014
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:20:07 UTC No. 16163019
>>16150566
>No government will ever let civilians manage fissile material without careful oversight.
Imagine having a government LMAO.
Statists once again prove they're retarded.