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Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:01:24 UTC No. 16147772
Give me evidence of something existing without a cause.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:05:12 UTC No. 16147777
>>16147772
Rebellion
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:08:56 UTC No. 16147780
>>16147777
checked
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:11:02 UTC No. 16147785
In the beginning it was very hot.
Isn't enough
Something was making it hot.
You have to mention this.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:24:01 UTC No. 16147811
>>16147772
Quantum fluctuations, contingency is more of an issue for atheism, see:
>>16146607
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:25:27 UTC No. 16147814
>>16147772
Radioactive nuclei decay without cause. It's totally spontaneous, totally random.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:28:52 UTC No. 16147818
Everything, besides that, nothing.
The universe.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:38:19 UTC No. 16147831
>>16147772
God
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:57:26 UTC No. 16147857
OP posted something sensible but people who replied were tardy and gout. I give up with sci - gonna leave this board today.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:06:56 UTC No. 16147872
Hawking radiation
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:29:03 UTC No. 16148735
>>16147831
i've actually wondered about that. god can be used as the cause to justify our existence, but what about god's existence? is there a cause for him too? does it just keep going so on and so forth? if every effect has to have a cause behind it, then at what point do we reach the end of all the causes behind all the effects? maybe some circular sorta thing where somehow the effect leads to the cause?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:49:01 UTC No. 16148762
>>16147772
p-adic numbers
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:02:24 UTC No. 16149040
>>16148735
>is there a cause for him too?
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:12:23 UTC No. 16149050
>>16147772
One sure mark of a fool is to dismiss anything that falls outside his experience as impossible
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:14:34 UTC No. 16149055
>>16147772
your reproductive organs
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:05:25 UTC No. 16149835
>>16147814
the cause is the existence of the radioactive nuclei
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:06:56 UTC No. 16149838
>>16149835
that's so le deep
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:27:06 UTC No. 16149850
>>16149040
You solve this by saying the universe is (necessary). Everything in the universe has a cause, that does not mean the universe itself needs a cause.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:34:48 UTC No. 16149856
>>16147772
Consciousness
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:41:26 UTC No. 16149869
>>16149856
it exists because of your brain, it causes it. it always goes away when your brain goes to shit
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:56:23 UTC No. 16150198
>>16149850
>saying something makes it true
bodhi at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:40:53 UTC No. 16150254
>>16148735
I have explained all this in detail
for the 5 millionth time, God is the uncaused cause, the prime mover. He wasnt made
bodhi at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:42:01 UTC No. 16150255
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 05:22:25 UTC No. 16151207
>>16150254
Yet you can just as easily replace it with nothing since it is an unnecessary leap in logic.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:14:38 UTC No. 16151549
>>16147772
your mom
https://www.wired.com/2015/08/absur
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:15:52 UTC No. 16151550
>>16151549
YEAH? You wanna go bro? Fag. Kys now
bodhi at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:20:13 UTC No. 16151555
>>16151207
this doesnt make any sense, care to elaborate?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:23:21 UTC No. 16151560
>>16151555
Yes, you had to invent some axiom that something can't come from nothing just to argue that something other than nothing is at the origin point when logic is fine with just using nothing and the value of nothing as the absolute origin point.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:26:57 UTC No. 16151566
>>16149040
That image was made by a retard who probably finds William Lane Craig compelling. It drops the PSR down by 50+ IQ points. Read this instead, heathens:
https://www.amazon.com/Principle-Su
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:33:31 UTC No. 16151586
>>16151560
You're the one inventing axioms by saying 'logic says something can come from nothing', you imbecile nincompoop.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:39:49 UTC No. 16151597
>>16151586
No, I am using arithmetic logic axioms rather than inventing my own.
bodhi at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:40:44 UTC No. 16151598
>>16151560
ok name one thing that ever came from nothing then. Are you denying we live in a causal reality? I dont understand your angle here
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:40:57 UTC No. 16151599
>>16151597
Yeah it's bollox. Now fuck off and kys retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:43:49 UTC No. 16151602
>>16151598
100% comes from a function based on nothing alone via 0!=100%.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:44:50 UTC No. 16151606
>>16151599
I accept your concession, you have to make up your own bullshit and ignore long established systems of logic to make your point.
bodhi at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:48:27 UTC No. 16151613
>>16151602
I got no time for retards so w/e
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:53:39 UTC No. 16151624
>>16151606
Long established system of logic, 'nothing can produce something' why? It's widely accepted. Or. I don't answer whys that's not a scientific question. What then? 'what what'? What allows something to come from nothing? 'nothing is allowed....' lots of bullshit in sues. Basically it's just 'it just does ok', and this is long established. You're a fucking faggot you better kys.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:55:40 UTC No. 16151626
>>16151613
That is all you technically have time for since you always have to deal with yourself.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:56:41 UTC No. 16151629
>>16151624
Sure except god, its better something as complicated and convoluted as god be the exception than something as simple and pure as nothing.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:06:51 UTC No. 16151638
>>16151629
In the beginning it was very hot. What this thread implies is that something was making it hot. Not that it was hot for no reason like academic retards assert with long established logic. Goonie.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:16:06 UTC No. 16151648
>>16151638
So its not the beginning, you are just abusing language to make a retarded point?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:19:43 UTC No. 16151650
>>16151648
GET OUT
Cult of Passion at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:20:54 UTC No. 16151651
>>16147772
>a cause
No, thats the effect.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:30:34 UTC No. 16151747
>>16151651
Someone's toffed you off.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 15:30:34 UTC No. 16151867
>>16150198
>God is necessary because I said so
>No you can't just say things are necessary
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 15:32:24 UTC No. 16151868
>>16151598
The universe apparently.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 15:36:38 UTC No. 16151875
>>16151598
How do you know "nothing" is even a valid state of existence. There is no nothing anywhere everything is filled with energy, quantum fields, matter, and such things. You can't prove that nothing even exists and so you can't prove that nothing ever comes from nothing.
bodhi at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 15:38:31 UTC No. 16151878
>>16151875
> There is no nothing anywhere
buddy, this is the point I have made a million times on this board over the last decade
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:09:00 UTC No. 16151903
>>16151878
So how can you claim to know how it behaves? How can you say nothing comes from nothing?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:16:23 UTC No. 16151907
>>16151903
Don't reply to nametards, newfag
bodhi at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:54:33 UTC No. 16153028
>>16151907
why you always sniffing my asshole looking for a treat?
bodhi at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:55:34 UTC No. 16153030
>>16151903
I didnt and dont know what you are on about. You just made all this up in your head
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:18:49 UTC No. 16153044
>>16151875
I am holding nothing, its an empirical experience anyone can observe, I can see nothing with my own two ears at all times and so can you.
bodhi at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:30:27 UTC No. 16153057
>>16153044
there is nothing between your ears alright
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 11:35:47 UTC No. 16153063
>>16153057
My head is between my two ears, there is nothing between my left ear and my left ear, though.
bodhi at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:18:54 UTC No. 16153097
>>16153063
there are no atoms there? is it just a void eh? perhaps it is an einstein-rosen bridge to another dimension in your bumhole
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:26:29 UTC No. 16153105
>>16153097
There is not even a void, there is nothing because my left ear is my left ear with nothing in between itself since it is itself.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 07:54:37 UTC No. 16154381
>>16147772
Anyone can always just arbitrarily assign the cause of anything as unknown, but you can't actually show me any cause for nature, reality, spontaneous processes, random mutation, spontaneous recovery, spontaneous emission, spontaneous decay, etc.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 07:55:58 UTC No. 16154386
>>16149869
No, you generally have dreams, NDEs and/or hallucinate a conscious experience when your brain goes to shit.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 06:41:11 UTC No. 16156049
>>16147772
Your pathetic life.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 06:56:55 UTC No. 16156079
>>16156049
That, like yours, was caused by two tards having a fuck.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 06:43:56 UTC No. 16157408
>>16147772
You randomly posted this thread without something causing you to do it.