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Anonymous No. 16152393

Haven-1 Pathfinder Edition

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Anonymous No. 16152398

>>16152393
Christopher Scolese was best Nasa administrator BY FAR

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Anonymous No. 16152400

THEY HAVE TO BE JOKING BTW

Anonymous No. 16152404

>>16152393
havenly palace

Anonymous No. 16152405

reminder we need more space jobs

Anonymous No. 16152412

>>16152405
Doing what? One-dimensional thinking like this is how you get SLS
Space doesn’t have a market, it needs LESS people in the industry than are actively applying

Anonymous No. 16152414

>>16152412
i'm doing my part to help by just complaining about the industry on /sfg/ instead of actually working in it

Anonymous No. 16152416

>>16152414
Okay based actually kek

Anonymous No. 16152417

>>16152400
at what point do they give up on upper stage reusability and settle for a cheapish partially reusable super-heavy lift vehicle

Anonymous No. 16152419

>>16152414
>>16152405
i appreciate your complaints, i need anything i can get to work at starbase once im out of college.

Anonymous No. 16152421

>>16152417
Upper stage reentry and landing is 100% necessary for the Mars thing so I doubt they will give up. It's clear that this vehicle will never visit Mars, so maybe they will give up on this one, but they always talk about how there will be an 18m width vehicle in the future. I think that will be capable of the 150t fully reusable thing, but it probably wont have reusable launch pads.

Anonymous No. 16152427

What will (You) do if the Mars ticket price drops to $100k?

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Anonymous No. 16152430

>>16152393
https://twitter.com/vast/status/1785025764435566977
wait so what is this? a mockup made with the construction techniques of the real thing that won't undergo testing? are they building two more before they fly any?

Anonymous No. 16152438

>>16152427
if it gets that low, demand will putpace supply. im expecting 1-2million minimum by 2050, and planning accordingly

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Anonymous No. 16152442

>>16152427
by the time it drops that low there wont be any seats available because everyone will be trying to abandon this dying planet

Anonymous No. 16152445

Anybody here excited for OFT-4?

Anonymous No. 16152446

>>16152442
in favor of an already dead planet?

Anonymous No. 16152449

>>16152446
earth average temp will be 120 degrees and rising every month

Anonymous No. 16152450

>>16152445
that wont be until 2025. i am excited for IFT-4 though

Anonymous No. 16152452

>>16152449
average mean it's going down somewhere

Anonymous No. 16152454

>>16152449
delusional. fell for the climate change meme.

Anonymous No. 16152455

>>16152450
OFT stands for orbital FLIGHT test, the fourth is scheduled for end of May according to FAA / Space-X

Anonymous No. 16152456

https://youtu.be/1oHWpddbsRM
In case u missed it

Anonymous No. 16152457

>>16152449
I have AC

Anonymous No. 16152458

>>16152455
you seem to not understand what orbital means, and the FAA as well as SpaceX call it Integrated Flight Test or IFT. check your defintions xister

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Anonymous No. 16152460

>>16152458
i think you got your info wrong. FAA clearly says OFT in all legal documents and license permits!

Anonymous No. 16152461

>>16152460
seems more to me like you inspect elemented that and also cut off your manhood since you didnt link anything. why dont you fuck right off?

Anonymous No. 16152462

Interplanetary transport system (ITS) - Super Heavy (SH), Starship (SS)

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Anonymous No. 16152463

>>16152461
I'm sorry you had to find out this way. IFT or "integrated flight test" is sadly nowhere to be found on any existing FAA license

Anonymous No. 16152464

>>16152463
proof elon LIED about it not being orbital

Anonymous No. 16152465

>>16152445
I sure hope they aren't still doing flight tests by orbital 4

Anonymous No. 16152466

>>16152465
Every launch from Boca Chunga is by definition a test launch

Anonymous No. 16152467

>>16152456
redpill me on who are these two people?

Anonymous No. 16152468

>>16152466
It’s a regular launch, there is no distinction. It’s de-facto classified as a “Success, Partial”

Anonymous No. 16152470

It's penciled in as "OFT" for tax reduction purposes and circumnavigating FAA restriction involving non-orbital tests.
Think about it logically.

Anonymous No. 16152473

>>16152468
no, because the modified license is not operational. it's a very strict legal framework, and a test license

Anonymous No. 16152474

>>16152470
every launch should be taxed

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Anonymous No. 16152476

Been reading up on RTGs and after looking into thermoelectric generators without the radioisotope component makes me wonder, would it be practical to use the Seebeck effect to take excess heat from spacecraft and space stations and use that to simultaneously generate power while cooling the craft?
Since most spacecraft seem to be more focused on dispelling excess heat that is generated rather than having to generate heat on their own to stay warm. Obviously it wouldn't do much at the scale of current spacecraft, but it could be scaled for inhabited megastructures that could struggle with radiating heat fast enough to stay comfortable. This is assuming that the efficiency of thermoelectric generators improves in the near future.

Anonymous No. 16152477

>>16152456
Bill is incredibly sharp! Interviewing that woman. Look forward to 4 more years of superb leadership from the Senator from Florida!

Anonymous No. 16152479

>>16152467
DM me on the Discord

Anonymous No. 16152481

how dark is it on pluto

Anonymous No. 16152482

>>16152476
No wtf you’re retarded

Anonymous No. 16152483

>>16152481
Depends on if it’s a planet or not

Anonymous No. 16152485

>>16152481
same as daytime on earth retard. its around the same star.

Anonymous No. 16152490

>>16152481
too bad we visited at night

Anonymous No. 16152494

>>16152481
about as dark as dusk on earth
https://science.nasa.gov/dwarf-planets/pluto/plutotime/

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Anonymous No. 16152496

We need to consider the thesis of this book
>A City on Mars: Can We Settle Space, Should We Settle Space, and Have We Really Thought this Through?
>by Kelly Weinersmith and Zach Weinersmith
The dream of establishing new worlds could turn into a nightmare for both the settlers and those left behind on Earth

Anonymous No. 16152499

>>16152496
>We need to consider a popsci hot take from some shitty degrowther communists
No, we really don't

Anonymous No. 16152501

>>16152494
wtf thats bright!

Anonymous No. 16152502

>>16152496
Execution by airlock

Anonymous No. 16152505

>>16152400
AIIIIEEEEEEEEE THE FINENESS RATIO NIGGERMAN HELP ME IM GOING INSANEEEEE

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>>16152441

Anonymous No. 16152507

>>16152482
could you elaborate on why?

Anonymous No. 16152509

>>16152505
not much further before we hit F9 levels and every launch gets scrubbed due to high level winds

Anonymous No. 16152510

>>16152501
yeah it turns out the sun is really big and really bright, who knew?

Anonymous No. 16152511

>>16152400
This fotograph is doctored

Anonymous No. 16152515

>>16152510
I don't believe you

Anonymous No. 16152523

>>16152506
very strange to me how there has always been a drive to bend over backwards making things as safe as possible for astronauts, but at the same time housands of men die in wars all the time and noone cares. Why is there such a double standard?

Anonymous No. 16152524

>>16152523
because when thousands of men die in wars the army doesn't get hit with congressional investigations and budget cuts. it's a matter of national prestige and that's worth a lot more than a single life.

Anonymous No. 16152525

>>16152523
The men who die in war are just considered more disposable because they aren't highly-educated, trained, and healthy. Instead they're just healthy (most of the time). Although many astronauts, especially during the first years of spaceflight, were military men.
In general most men are considered disposable, especially those of lower status due to lack of education, physical attractiveness, or socioeconomic strata. It's why no one cares if a middle-age man kills himself but a young woman committing suicide is a tragedy that makes local or even national news.

Anonymous No. 16152526

>>16152523
War is dangerous? Hmmm that’s a mystery

Anonymous No. 16152530

>>16152526
space is dangerous too.

Anonymous No. 16152533

>>16152496
>Jews telling what I can and cannot do: space edition
No

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Anonymous No. 16152537

>>16152523
What is the vapid point you're trying to make? Do you think soldiers just get sacrificed and that leaders and fellow soldiers don't do everything they can to keep that from happening? The nature of conflict necessitates risk. There really isn't such a thing as a "safe way" to attacking an enemy machinegun position anon. But soldiers and armies don't go out of their way to just get killed with no regard to safety. But war given its nature, demands sacrifice. It's almost as if that's an instinctual virtue or something.

Anonymous No. 16152538

>>16152530
Okay-so you obviously see these safety measures we take for space
We also take geopolitical safety measures; sometimes in the form of war.

Anonymous No. 16152539

>>16152496
>waaahhh if we let people colonize space they might drop rocks on us
Well yeah

Anonymous No. 16152540

>>16152523
>why do people try to kill people in the killing people contest?
also war has literally never been safer for a soldier in all of human history.

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Anonymous No. 16152542

>>16152540
>also war has literally never been safer for a soldier in all of human history.
>*Dies from enemy DPICM strike along with the rest of his entire company*

Anonymous No. 16152543

>>16152537
Word salad and missing the point.
I didnt say people go out of their way to get killed in war buddy. The fact is no-one cares when they get killed, but if several thousand people died in spaceflight everyone would lose their minds.
14 people died on shuttle so it was viewed as a travesty and they cancelled the program. If 14 people died in a war do you think politicians get together to cancel the invasion? No. And your pseud stuff about risk or whatever is redundant because it all applies to space.

Anonymous No. 16152544

>>16152542
yes it's much safer. read casualty reports from basically any war. check the portion of wounded to killed, the number dead from disease, and the portion of dead to mobilized, as well as the health outcomes from specific injuries, notably burns and limb damage. and civilians are far and away the safest they've been in recorded history

Anonymous No. 16152547

>>16152543
>typing all of this
>calling anyone else a pseud
you are genuinely fucking retarded for wondering why people die in war. they die because killing people is literally how one wages war. killing is war and war is killing. one cannot wage war without killing, on BOTH SIDES. since you're both trying to heckin unalive each other, youre gonna get corpses. in spaceflight killing people is unnecessary. it's a contest between man and nature. In war it's a contest between man and man to see who is to goodest at killing
the fact that this isn't readily apparent to you marks you as a 14(IQ)andthisisdeep tier retard

but I think we should give less of a shit when astronauts die

Anonymous No. 16152549

A much better question is:
“why do we accept death as a ‘necessity’ in war, but ‘not an option’ in human spaceflight?”
Personally I think it’s because you’re mobilizing hundreds, thousands, sometimes millions to front lines of an enemy trying to kill you. But in spaceflight, it’s been a mere 60 years of sending up one at a time, two at a time, seven at a time max. Every individual is way more personal and special and worth trying to keep alive. If we ever commit hundreds, thousands, millions out into LEO, the Moon, and Mars then dying off Earth will become way more of an “inevitable” thing as it is just probabilistically going to happen, like car crash fatalities or passenger plane crashes.

Anonymous No. 16152552

>>16152544
>read casualty reports from basically any war. check the portion of wounded to killed
Modern militaries have extremely high combat personnel to non combat personnel ratios due to the mechanization of modern militaries. The bulk of an armored division (60-70%+) would be comprised of non combat personnel. hence the skewing of data. It should also be noted here that casualty reports from low intensity conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan don't contain casualties from either host nation forces, private military contractors and police forces, who took the brunt of enemy action during said conflicts.

>the number dead from disease
Vietnam was the last war where US forces were exposed to the elements for long periods of time and weren't mostly operating out of combat outposts, and you still had high numbers of casualties due to disease.

I can't see how you can think war is "safer" now. Everything is more lethal.

Anonymous No. 16152554

>>16152547
Why are you so mad? And why do you think you need to explain retarded shit to me like its some hot take? I never once asked why people fight wars. You are arguing with the voices in your head.

Anonymous No. 16152555

>>16152549
>“why do we accept death as a ‘necessity’ in war, but ‘not an option’ in human spaceflight?”

Nigga do you know how fucking dangerous spaceflight is? Those motherfuckers knew the immense risks involved and were willing to take the risk, same thing soldiers do in war. You take fucking risks.

Anonymous No. 16152557

>>16152533
they can't have you escaping their political, economic, and cultural control, uppity goy

Anonymous No. 16152558

>>16152555
What’s your point?

Anonymous No. 16152560

>>16152554
so you're too stupid to understand why the killing people contest results in dead bodies?

Anonymous No. 16152562

>>16152549
>“why do we accept death as a ‘necessity’ in war, but ‘not an option’ in human spaceflight?”
spaceflight is always under spotlight, and people going up there were highly trained very capable people. the optics of them dying are bad.

Anonymous No. 16152566

I'll do you one better, why do we accept death as a 'necessity' at all?
we should do away with death, so humans only occasionally die in the most unpredictable of accidents and nowhere else

Anonymous No. 16152567

>>16152560
honestly just take a moment off the electronic devices to calm down. see you tomorrow : )

Anonymous No. 16152568

>>16152562
Yeah I thought of this as well. Plus all the training means pretty much everyone knows these astronauts on a personal level

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Anonymous No. 16152570

>>16152496
Begone Magians

Anonymous No. 16152571

>>16152566
That’s just Demolition Man

Anonymous No. 16152574

>>16152566
I think that's what drones are for. And the much expected military Terminator style warrior robot. Nobody is like "dang, we could really spare these guys but for some reason let's get them killed in horrific ways, by our enemies".

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Anonymous No. 16152581

>>16152579
>clearly shows more than one stage

Anonymous No. 16152582

>>16152581
yeah but only a single stage goes to orbit

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>>16152582
Behold! the 60 stage to orbit rocket!

Anonymous No. 16152584

i still dont get how the new dragon rides are supposed to work. are they going on a set schedule and you buy a ticket like a bus ride? or are they just known flights and you have to do all of the legwork yourself to get it started?

Anonymous No. 16152588

>>16152584
it probably depends on what sort of interest they draw

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Anonymous No. 16152615

>>16152496

Anonymous No. 16152618

>>16152507
It's hard to say since there are so many potential causes.

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Anonymous No. 16152633

>>16152496
>cricket ranch

Anonymous No. 16152635

the VAST station will have a 3 year operational life before controlled deorbit.

https://www.space.commerce.gov/wp-content/uploads/Vast-Response-to-RFI-on-Satellite-Disposal-and-Debris-Mitigation.pdf

Anonymous No. 16152638

>>16152496
>Why Escaping Prison Planet is Bad, Actually
>by Shlomo and Yenta Bagelschnozzbergwitzsteinblatt
DIRECTLY into the biorecycler.

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Anonymous No. 16152643

>>16152635

Anonymous No. 16152646

>>16152539
is that in the book?

Anonymous No. 16152647

>>16152635
Well it was just meant to be a starter station to suck up all the funding that comes with being 'the first commercial space station'. The ones after will be more permanent, I mean Haven-1 is probably the most basic station you can make, but it will still be a very good experience for the Vast team to have.

Anonymous No. 16152649

>>16152643
Japanese subhumans are just like Russia in losing ground on the space race. Still no space station, no SUCCESFUL moon landing, and are oldspace cock suckers who do nothing with the opportunities theyre given. Why dont you stupid gooks just die out already and let your new generation once your population is smaller take the reigns.

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Anonymous No. 16152655

>>16151969
Clipper is launching on FH because
A: scientists lied about SLS shaking being damaging to the payload
B: scientists thought SLS would not be available during the launch window (true)
C: Vulcan was not approved yet
D: Vulcan was already booked way out thanks to Amazon and DoD

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Anonymous No. 16152656

>>16152496
did he take her last name?

Anonymous No. 16152665

new starship launch when?

Anonymous No. 16152669

>>16152665
Two more weeks

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Anonymous No. 16152673

>>16152665
OFT-4 is officially late May, but unofficially we expect June/July

Anonymous No. 16152681

>>16152670
The man is correct. The arrow is not.

Anonymous No. 16152682

>>16152673
(You) expect June/July. Fuck off with co-opting the rest of us OFT-troon.

Anonymous No. 16152683

>>16152646
https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/review-of-a-city-on-mars-part-i
They adopted a lot of their opinion on the topic from a guy who likes to whine about that possibility. I haven't read the book because I was pretty sure it would be decel drivel and reviews seemed to bear that guess out.

Anonymous No. 16152685

>>16152670
both are true
the shittle was ass but also it was cool as fuck

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Anonymous No. 16152688

>>16152683
fuck, they're onto us

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Anonymous No. 16152693

thinking about her still

Anonymous No. 16152694

>>16152693
imagine if he dropped that giant beaker and it shattered all over the concrete and spill the kool-aid everywhere

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Anonymous No. 16152696

>>16152694
spacenoid problems

Anonymous No. 16152697

>>16152618
that's a nice way of saying that it will, in fact, work

Anonymous No. 16152698

>>16152697
in zero-g the liquid would just slosh out of the beaker because it doesn't have a lid on it, i don't think that's much better desu senpai

Anonymous No. 16152699

>>16152697
the waste heat isn't hot enough so it's not worth the extra radiators

Anonymous No. 16152700

>>16152698
meant for
>>16152696

Anonymous No. 16152702

How are braps filtered out on a space station?

Anonymous No. 16152703

>>16152682
Pretty sure I speak for all /sfg/ when I say
OFT-4 is officially late May, but unofficially we expect June/July

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Anonymous No. 16152704

*BRAAAAAAAAAAAP* clean it up janny

Anonymous No. 16152705

>>16152696
I seen in places people that dont think this video is staged.
HAHAHAHA THE ASTRONAUT FOGORT HE WAS NOT IN SPACE?!?!?! AHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16152708

>>16152705
it happens but usually not on camera

Anonymous No. 16152710

>>16152705
Just start shilling your conspiracies already so you can be banned faster

Anonymous No. 16152711

>>16152702
OH yes! that's the smell I like! oh yeah baby those stinkers i like them! just one sniff baby, just one more sniff!

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Anonymous No. 16152712

>>16152704
>2019 was 5 years ago

Anonymous No. 16152714

>>16152702
just pass the air through an activated charcoal filter or something, removing stank like that isn't difficult
you need to maintain significant airflow anyway to keep people from drowning in a bubble of their own breath anyway

Anonymous No. 16152715

>>16152710
Retard, you actually believe the astronaut forgot? Don't tell me you actually believe that. He's like ""DURR WHERE DA CUP GO?? OH YA I FOROGT IT WAS ON URF AND IT HAZ GRAVTY""

Anonymous No. 16152720

>>16152715
okay anon, what if, one day, you traveled to Africa and were told that if you picked your nose in Africa you would explode
would you be able to avoid picking your nose?

Anonymous No. 16152721

>>16152715
Yeah youre a troglodyte for sure. Wheres the moon landing conspiracy come on now

Anonymous No. 16152724

>>16152720
Why do you pick your nose you revolting ape?

Anonymous No. 16152726

>>16152724
boogers are itchy

Anonymous No. 16152728

>>16152726
Blow your nose then. Stop being such an uncivilized nigger.

Anonymous No. 16152735

>>16152720
What a disgusting analogy. Is the booger bloody too? You disgusting fuck

Anonymous No. 16152737

>>16152721
One thing at a TIME! Address the first conundrum now. Staged or real? You be the judge

Anonymous No. 16152740

>>16152737
Real of fucking course. >>16152720 this nigger had a good example but talked about picking his own fucking nose like its a normal thing, but the point still stands. Now shill your space is fake conspiracies already.

Anonymous No. 16152741

>>16152737
I think this particular example of the phenomenon is staged, although it has happened for real (but not on camera)

Anonymous No. 16152743

Does anyone have the "Virgin Brachistochrone vs Chad Gravity Assist" meme?

Anonymous No. 16152744

>>16152743
Those memes are so 2017 anon...

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Anonymous No. 16152746

>>16152744
It's necessary for a serious gravity assist-related discussion.

Anonymous No. 16152749

>>16152746
Since when could AI get words correct, let alone stylized logos?

Anonymous No. 16152759

>>16152749
I believe it's called infill, they ask it to add an image in a a certain spot

Anonymous No. 16152774

>>16152400
I advocated for an elongated Starship for more than a year now. Aesthetically it's the most optimal solution.

Anonymous No. 16152776

>>16152749
buddy that was just shopped in after the fact, look at the obvious blur tool use behind the logo and the aliasing on the logo itself

Anonymous No. 16152778

>>16152740
He's ACTING. DOESNT MATTER IF HE DOES IT OFF CAMERA AND ITS REAL. IN THIS VIDEO CASE IT'S NOT

Anonymous No. 16152781

>>16152778
Its fucking real you stupid nigger these things happen get over it, YOU WERE WRONG

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Anonymous No. 16152783

Elon is not paying any attention to SpaceX right now

Anonymous No. 16152787

>>16152781
If it happens, that's great. Totaly fine :)
In that video however, right HER >>16152696
E is an obvious stage

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Anonymous No. 16152794

When the next blue shepherd flight?

Anonymous No. 16152796

>>16152749
depends on notoriety
I know Coca-Cola logo was doable for well over a year with older versions of Stable Diffusion
tangible lines of text were doable for at least 6 months with SDXL and DALLE3
that said, it's better to add text later

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Anonymous No. 16152800

good news /sfg/! while starship languishes, an exciting new startup has broken into the market and stolen the initiative! introducing radian one, the world's first ssto spaceplane! capable of putting more than two tons into LEO*, it may just leave spacex in the dust!

Anonymous No. 16152802

>>16152800
I love asterisks next to payload numbers and also SSTOs and also spaceplanes, this totally isn't a grift or anything
is the the two mile long rail sled a launcher?

Anonymous No. 16152805

>>16152800
This is incredible work by the team. Watching this closely!

Anonymous No. 16152807

>>16152800
Them and Theby Space Services will go down in history

Anonymous No. 16152810

>>16152802
>>16152800
launches on a sled, lands on a runway? does it have skids and wheels? seem like a lot of infrastructure

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Anonymous No. 16152813

IT'S OVER FOR FELON HUSK ONCE THIS GOES MAINSTREAM

CANCELLED FOR RACISM IN 5... 4... 3...

Anonymous No. 16152818

>>16152813
incredible how many fotographers are going with 1024x1024 these days

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>>16152818

Anonymous No. 16152824

>>16152818
HE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE HE DECIDED TO SHOW HIS INTOLERANCE AND BIGOTRY

Anonymous No. 16152831

>>16152818
Anon............I

Anonymous No. 16152849

just encountered an interesting article elsewhere
https://papersourceonline.com/roman-horses-butts-designed-space-shuttles/
you should read it

Anonymous No. 16152852

>>16152849
this is older than the internet and also not really true

Anonymous No. 16152856

>>16152849
You could make up a dumb story like this about literally anything

Anonymous No. 16152858

Nah man, I aint into that stephen clark shit.
gives me soma that eric bergor mang

Anonymous No. 16152884

>>16152810
Two miles of straight track and a rocket sled is wide but cheap.

Anonymous No. 16152894

>>16152884
Needs to be 3 miles long. it will coat billions

Anonymous No. 16152899

>>16152894
of yen

Anonymous No. 16152901

>>16152899
yuan you dope

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>>16152852
It is though. Despite every opportunity to develop different rail infrastructure almost everyone uses British gauges or very close to them. It's actually kind of retarded, so much rail freight is limited by stupid cucked narrow gauges. Picrel is the trainkino future we were denied by auto lobbies and assorted small hats rubbing their hands together.

Anonymous No. 16152916

>>16152911
Wow!!! just like disney Marvel!

Anonymous No. 16152934

>>16152712
stupid frogposter

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Anonymous No. 16152946

>>16152685
The Shuttle wasn't even a fraction as cool as the Saturn V.

Anonymous No. 16152947

>>16152946
do you know why? are you able to articulate the reason? I can
you try first

Anonymous No. 16152951

>>16152656
HAG

Anonymous No. 16152953

>>16152685
shuttle is lame

Anonymous No. 16152960

>>16152906
That 40k train looks like the same standard gauge shit, just taller.

Anonymous No. 16152962

>>16152946
Saturn V looks rigid and brittle like it's just waiting to expend parts of itself. Shuttle looks like a real spaceship.

Anonymous No. 16152963

>>16152670
The shuttle would be a lot cooler if he didn't need the fag external tank

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Anonymous No. 16152967

>>16152800
>revolutionary 2-mile-long rail sled

Anonymous No. 16152981

>>16152906
>cucked narrow gauges
How big of gauges did you think is ideal? Russian 1520 or the larger indian one?

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Anonymous No. 16152982

>>16152960
it's double-wide

Anonymous No. 16152993

>>16152963
If the orbiter and boosters were fully and rapidly reusable then using a drop tank was an amazing decision.
Think about it, it would have been like the falcon 9 but better. Instead of spending an entire stage with all its avionics and engine every flight, you just spend a drop tank, which would be very cheap in a mass manufacture situation and would also have plenty of margin to be used as orbital fuel depots for deep space missions if the Shuttle wasn't nerfed.

Anonymous No. 16152998

>>16152993
So really it comes down to the cripplingly low cadence. If that was improved Shuttle could have been amazing
That sucks

Anonymous No. 16153000

>>16152982
we need to build one of these on the moon

Anonymous No. 16153008

>>16152737
If you watch the original video, it's very clearly a bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxaL8CAO4M

even without the context, he's not even reacting to the sound of it hitting the floor. Don't mind me though, keep baiting the retard.

Anonymous No. 16153013

>>16152998
the plan for the year after challenger was 24+ flights, which by oldspace standards is pretty good

Anonymous No. 16153024

>>16152998
Yes. Risk aversion was the main problem, which led to low cadence. Cadence was ramping up before Challenger, then cadence never recovered and a whole host of Shuttle capabilities like carrying cryogen deep space stages were scrapped forever due to safety.
SRBs were retarded because the fuel is the most expensive and complex part so it makes no sense to reuse them, they basically added a very high lower bound on launch cost, which was the cost of two gigantic missiles. The tech wasnt ready at the time, but if NASA had droneship recovered boosters they would have been over half way to solving the Shuttle.
There were a whole load of things with the Orbiter which turned out to not be reusable, or at least not without extensive repair every flight. Maybe they could have been fixed if rapid iteration was allowed, but I fear Starship is going the same way, despite all the prototyping.

Anonymous No. 16153037

>>16153024
>I fear Starship is going the same way, despite all the prototyping.
Can you elaborate on that?

Anonymous No. 16153043

>>16153037
>Never proven easy rapid reuse of Raptor, or any reuse of Raptor for that matter
>Heat shield clearly not rapidly reusable in the present config and is only getting more complex/hard to maintain (basically becoming the same as the shuttle shield)
>Launch site not rapidly resuable in the current config
It's impossible for it to work with any of those present factors.
It's worse when considering the frankly already bad payload for a vehicle it's size. Falcon 9 added more heat shielding on block 5 which is why there are black areas. Block 4 was recoverable but not reusable due to thermal ware on the vehicle. Inevitably this will happen to Starship, and the performance will get worse. They also need a total redesign of Raptor. Musk said it many times and it's true. Present raptor dumps water into the tanks which then freezes to ice and clogs the engine inlets. It was responsible for the IFT2 and 3 RUDs. And clearly tanks which get filled with water ice are not rapidly reusable.

Anonymous No. 16153055

>>16152496
>literal jewish propaganda
fuck off with your concern trolling

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Anonymous No. 16153056

>>16152993
I don't understand the fully reusable meme. Just shit out unfathomable numbers of upper stages. We can still get to Mars

Anonymous No. 16153059

>>16152670
Both are correct. The only good part of the Shuttle are its aesthetics.

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Anonymous No. 16153060

>>16153056
Meant to post this, but you get the idea

Anonymous No. 16153068

>>16152511
really? how could you tell?

Anonymous No. 16153070

>>16152783
this is extremely based. who has a problem with "excellent, necessary and trustworthy"

Anonymous No. 16153079

>>16153070
Jews probably

Anonymous No. 16153084

>>16153070
Chosen ones, black americans, and bitter women in management

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Anonymous No. 16153087

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-exploration-chief-lays-out-next-steps-for-starship-development/

about the meeting, not new information but a long and detailed article

Anonymous No. 16153092

>>16152505
>AIIIIEEEEEEEEE
LatinX?

Anonymous No. 16153096

How is atmopsheric scooping supposed to work? Wouldn't you spend more material in fuel getting to and from the gas giant and resisting aero drag than you would gain from the atmopshere?

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Anonymous No. 16153100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1lQVtRGic
>SpaceX Starbase Texas 4K Launch Complex, 2nd Orbital Launch Tower, Production Site, Starfactory

Anonymous No. 16153101

>>16153096
It's scifi nigger cope. Material lost in gravity wells is lost to us forever.

Anonymous No. 16153113

>>16153056
because to land on Mars you need working heatshield
if you make heatshield for Mars, might as well use it on Earth to save the upper stage

Anonymous No. 16153114

>>16153101
But anon... we're in a gravity well!

Anonymous No. 16153119

>>16153114
he's lost forever

Anonymous No. 16153121

>>16153114
All is lost

Anonymous No. 16153123

>>16152683
>>16152539
If it's so easy why don't they drop rocks on Venus right now

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Anonymous No. 16153125

>>16153087
Fascinating

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>>16152743

Anonymous No. 16153132

>>16153125
starship sucks off the other one

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Anonymous No. 16153149

>>16153114
>>16153119
>>16153121
were ina very small gravity well comapred to a gas giant anon.... And even still, space travel is barely possible. If our gravity well was 2x what is is now it would be totally impossible to build reusable rockets and require a 3 to 4 stage saturn V sized vehicle to put a small payload into orbit

Anonymous No. 16153156

is there a goldilocks zone for gravity wells? apart from the obvious requirements for us as humans. supposing we have advanced enough tech (genetic engineering/synthetic bodies whatever) and no energy issues, what is "the best" gravity well to be in? more than Earth? less?

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Anonymous No. 16153163

>>16153149
>>16153156
>For a payload of one ton to escape velocity, the required amount of chemical fuel is ∌ 3.3 exp(g0).

Anonymous No. 16153170

>>16153156
>is there a goldilocks zone for gravity wells?
We are in it.

Anonymous No. 16153172

>>16153170
for current form, yeah clearly

Anonymous No. 16153176

>>16152579
donut booster is way better than 150m starship

Anonymous No. 16153179

>>16153170
>>16153156
Too much atmosphere though, we should remove it

Anonymous No. 16153182

>>16153179
but it's pretty in daylight

Anonymous No. 16153186

>elon gutted tesla and is shutting down the supercharger network
SAVE SPACEX BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

Anonymous No. 16153187

>>16153186
Is this true?

Anonymous No. 16153188

>>16153187
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/04/tesla-to-lay-off-everyone-working-on-superchargers-new-vehicles/

Anonymous No. 16153191

why did he do it bros

Anonymous No. 16153195

It's over..... And Elon waster his 40 billion payday on Shitter rather than SpaceX...... Save me bros.....

Anonymous No. 16153196

>>16153008
Irrefutable

Anonymous No. 16153198

Tesla is back baby
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/boss-battery-giant-catl-visits-elon-musks-hotel-beijing-reuters-witness-2024-04-29/

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>>16152569
Majestic

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Anonymous No. 16153207

>>16153188
Huh! Interesting article!

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Anonymous No. 16153209

>>16153179
> remooov atmosphere
dumb where are you condensing your lox from then, just spin Earth quicker to lower gravity at the equator

Anonymous No. 16153210

>>16153179
Atmospheric tyranny cannot last forever
One day, all launches will be from airless bodies

Anonymous No. 16153211

>>16153188
>https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/04/tesla-to-lay-off-everyone-working-on-superchargers-new-vehicles/
LMAO, I wonder how musktards will twist this one. "Elon is SAVING the company from those USELESS execs!"

>>16153207
here come the mustard drones kek

Anonymous No. 16153212

If we lived inside a nebula would scientists actually think the aether exists like they did in olden times? I like to iamgine they would have a retarded constant for drag imposed by the aether which they stick in all their equations, then they would introduce mysterious particles to explain why things outside the nebula behave differently.

Anonymous No. 16153213

>>16153211
Take it to /o/, carfag

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Anonymous No. 16153215

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/solar-capacity-grows-some-americas-most-productive-farmland-is-risk-2024-04-27/
Reminder that solarfags want you to eat ze bugs

Anonymous No. 16153220

>>16153213
I'm not the one that posted that link, and you clearly are mad as fuck

Anonymous No. 16153221

>>16153215
Underground vertical farming to increase acre yield, we'll need the tech perfected for Mars.

Anonymous No. 16153223

>>16153212
You’re right and it’s funny to imagine

Anonymous No. 16153237

>>16152430
That's what it sounds like, honestly it seems like a good idea for something that needs to be human rated.

Anonymous No. 16153238

>>16152525
There's a theory of social catastrophe along Malthusian lines that predicts war or something involving similar violent loss of life when the number of young, unmarried males rises too high in a population.

From that perspective war is an unfortunate but necessary correction, because those who die in the largest numbers are young males and their death corrects the gender imbalance.

Anonymous No. 16153240

>>16153238
so we're farmed like animals?

Anonymous No. 16153241

>>16153238
one problem is that all the warrior men would die and the remaining cowards/betas would have to repopulate. leading to disgenics

Anonymous No. 16153242

>>16152697
No, I was saying it's hard to know why you're retarded. That's what you asked. It could be any combination of genetic or environmental factors.

Anonymous No. 16153244

>>16153215
I live around a ton of farms, they all have solar on their barns and houses/non farmland. This one absolute chad has a lifted 6x10 array in his front yard. Any retard not getting on the solar bandwagon now is going to be crying then their neighbors are paying nothing in power with panels that payed themselves off years ago.

Anonymous No. 16153246

>>16152783
I think the test is a little too strict. If someone is actually necessary no other criteria are meaningful. Does he just mean that the work the person does is necessary?

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Anonymous No. 16153248

>>16152783
I'm not excellent.

Anonymous No. 16153249

>>16153246
we dont negotiate with terrorists, anon

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Anonymous No. 16153260

>>16153248
I'm not necessary.

Anonymous No. 16153261

>>16153260
>>16153248
Nobody asked if you were useful stop attentionfagging

Anonymous No. 16153266

>>16153261
You do not pass the trustworthy test.

Anonymous No. 16153269

>>16153249
But I haven't threatened anyone's life yet

Anonymous No. 16153270

>>16152783
>trustworthy
are these signs of early paranoia onset?

Anonymous No. 16153271

>>16153246
Truly necessary, sure, but it's been said that graveyards are full of necessary people; if they really are truly necessary then training up a replacement ought to be priority zero just in case they get hit by a bus or something. And you can't really have a functioning organisation without trustworthy people. Excellence does seem to at least be somewhat implied by necessity, though.

Anonymous No. 16153274

>>16153260
dumb frogposter

Anonymous No. 16153276

>>16153274
Retarded fairyposter, thats an alien.

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>>16153276

Anonymous No. 16153278

how come no one post the squid girl anymor

Anonymous No. 16153280

>>16153276
>>16153277
samefag
the alien was deliberately posted because it resembles a common internet meme "pepe the frog" aka "twitter frog" aka "normie toad" or "sad frog" based on French comic Matt Furie's creation from "Boys Club"

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Anonymous No. 16153281

>>16153280
Not enough time to inspect element plus im phonefagging, sorry but samefagging is impossible here.

Anonymous No. 16153282

>>16153280
I was just replying in your place. I did your work for you

Anonymous No. 16153283

>>16153241
This is a reason why africans are notorious for violence. They fought in atomized warrior bands where the storngest survived and took the women. Europeans and Asians have lived thousands of years in agricultural societies where the state chipped away at it's warrior generations by expending them in wars, where their fertility is actually far lower than non warriors, unless they get to rape a lot when they win. Often men would even be conscripted for life into the military basically making them incels. That combined with the pruning away of violent and antisocial behaviour through wide use of the death penalty produced modern man.

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Anonymous No. 16153285

The solar thermal anon must be really happy.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/new-space-company-seeks-to-solve-orbital-mobility-with-high-delta-v-spacecraft/

Anonymous No. 16153287

>>16153280
Actually I just posted it because its a sad face, it's an alien so its in my space folder. Any similarity to frogs is entirely coincidental.

Anonymous No. 16153290

Who do I believe? We need post IDs or better you facial verification

Anonymous No. 16153294

>>16153270
spacex has "only the paranoid survive" plastered everywhere

Anonymous No. 16153303

>>16152796
Stable Diffusion still fucks up Krystal's fur tattoos so I have to add them in manually whenever I render pics of her.

Anonymous No. 16153305

>>16153281
>>16153282
I see. verdict: not a samefag

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Anonymous No. 16153307

>>16153294
fr?

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Anonymous No. 16153315

>>16153307
yes

Anonymous No. 16153318

>>16153315
that's pretty based

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Anonymous No. 16153326

Nasa wants 1.5 billion to deorbit the ISS
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1785314260144247239

Anonymous No. 16153329

>>16153326
can't they like, shred it to small pieces, put these pieces inside one of its own containers and use the ISSs own propulsion system to make it fall to earth and have it disintegrate as fast as possible?

Anonymous No. 16153331

>>16153130
Thanks, anon!

Anonymous No. 16153333

>>16153326
cant they just like, not boost it again?

Anonymous No. 16153334

Won't the ISS come down on its own if they stop boosting it periodically with stationkeeping burns? Why would it cost anything to dispose of it?
>inb4 "out of control space debris"
The Chinese get to do it with their spent stages, so I also don't care where our debris comes down.

Anonymous No. 16153335

>>16153326
in another few years we'll be in the middle of a different war (this is just a historical fact about the USA, not political commentary)
drop that fucker on the enemy, whoever they are

Anonymous No. 16153336

>>16153329
they should just boost it higher and forget about it, a hundred years from now it could be a museum piece

Anonymous No. 16153337

put a tubefag in it and send it sideways out of the solar system

Anonymous No. 16153338

>>16153333
bro the atmosphere is not a fucking atomizer.

Anonymous No. 16153342

>>16153338
Then you agree we dont need tiles, good

Anonymous No. 16153344

>>16153336
They want to destroy our history

Anonymous No. 16153346

>>16153334
>inb4 "out of control space debris"

Yes that is the point, the ISS is many times the size of even Chinese CZ-5 cores.

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Anonymous No. 16153347

Cleaning house

Anonymous No. 16153349

>>16153215
right now america's most productive farmland is being incentivized to produce useless biodiesel. solar would be a huge improvement in terms of productivity.

Anonymous No. 16153351

>>16153347
why is this a big deal

Anonymous No. 16153353

>>16153326
russia nearly did it for free

Anonymous No. 16153354

>>16153342
well clearly does a lot of damage but doesn't guarantee it reduces everything to metal dust. think you'd have to break it up somehow so it gets more exposure to damage as it were
https://www.space.com/object-crash-florida-home-iss-space-junk-nasa-confirms

Anonymous No. 16153356

>NASA if it;s a human space flight, NASA has Veto power,

First time I ever heard of this WTF, this includes commercial spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16153357

>>16153356
it's the first time anyone's heard that since you're not providing a link

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Anonymous No. 16153359

>>16153346
I don't care where it comes down.

Anonymous No. 16153360

>>16153357
https://twitter.com/genejm29/status/1785326422812234024

Anonymous No. 16153361

>>16153347
Funny, apparently I have this fucker blocked already. Not sure when or why. What is he known for?

Anonymous No. 16153365

Florida senators want additional funding for Artemis lmao

Anonymous No. 16153372

>>16153365
They should seize and then auction off Disney World, that oughta free up some funds.

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Anonymous No. 16153374

>>16153359
>i aim for the stars, but sometimes i hit london
apparently they saved most of his office models for the huntsville museum. i was gonna be pretty mad if they'd been lost.

Anonymous No. 16153379

>>16153315
Very nice. I know it’s all the same, but spacex is a lot more serious and kino whereas I find tesla more musk-concentrated and reddit (The foil of this ‘only the paranoid survive’ being tesla adding “Tim’s Mode XD” to the cybertruck) Quirky shit like that gets under my skin and makes me realize why people think Musk is cringey.

Anonymous No. 16153383

>>16153347
What does this mean?

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Anonymous No. 16153388

>>16153326
Pathetic.
The russians deorbited MIR with a fistfull of rubles and a bottle of vodka.

Anonymous No. 16153394

>>16153379
i just never paid that much attention to tesla because it always seemed obvious to me that battery-powered cars are never going to be an economical replacement for hydrocarbon-powered cars except in limited niches. i've still never seen anything to change my mind on that. i don't have anything against it and i'm sure they've made some legitimate steps forward in battery tech. i'll just never be able to shake the notion that it's all a passing fad.

Anonymous No. 16153405

>>16153388
anon, part of Mir is still orbiting...

Anonymous No. 16153406

>>16153361
being a massive elon cocksucking insufferable faggot. basically his inner circle of politichuds on twitter who keep him distracted from his work.

Anonymous No. 16153412

>>16153394
I agree. It’s probably better to just keep an old ICE shitbox running to 500,000+ miles with a lot of love. The answer to “le climate change” isn’t to pump out millions of new electric cars every year lol.
Tesla is probably the best EV company doing the most R&D, but I still wouldn’t drive an EV until we advance past lithium ion batteries

Anonymous No. 16153415

>>16153405
Are you talking about the repurposed parts that are on the ISS?

Anonymous No. 16153421

>>16153415
NTA but is it a possibility that some SSMEs that visited Mir are being expended on SLS?

Anonymous No. 16153424

>>16153379
their product has a different target. EVs are for plebbit

Anonymous No. 16153426

>>16153415
yup

Anonymous No. 16153431

>>16153406
I thought Elon loved all his reply guys?

Anonymous No. 16153435

>>16153426
Well, technically those were parts for the MIR succesor that got scrapped when the russians joined the ISS project.

Anonymous No. 16153443

>>16153326
Hear me out:
>Dock (grapple) starship to truss of ISS
>Deorbit
>Undock
>Reboost to orbit
>Pocket the difference you would have spent on a purpose-built tug

Anonymous No. 16153448

>>16153443
that's dangerous anon. the ISS might get damaged before burning to a crisp.

Anonymous No. 16153449

>>16153278
it got old
if we talk about food and farming on Mars I'll post her again

Anonymous No. 16153452

>6,000m/s Dv
>lead Raptor designer
>first flight 2025-26
Ummm BASED

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>>16153452

Anonymous No. 16153461

>>16153431
Seems like someone is telling him to get his shit done finally. God I fucking hate every last one of his tweets recently, just because hes giving all of these worthless niggers attention and nothing on spaceflight.

Anonymous No. 16153463

>>16153412
>>16153394
I don't understand this mindset of "EVs will never replace ICE cars"
I charge at home every day and leave with a full battery. People who can't charge at home can charge at work. It's not hard to build public chargers. We did it with gas stations which are way harder to maintain. And for road trips, you have superchargers.
I think EVs work for at least 50% of the Western world's population. Worries about battery replacement, poor performance in cold weather, low range, are all leftovers from the first generation of EVs from 15 years ago and aren't relevant anymore.

Anonymous No. 16153470

>>16153452
ppl always talk about spacex alumni making all these great companies but in reality none of them yet have accomplished anything after leaving spacex

Anonymous No. 16153471

>>16153470
Cause they just started

Anonymous No. 16153473

>>16153471
this has been ongoing for decades, starting with founding grifter Jim Cantrell

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Anonymous No. 16153474

>>16153347
You'll never guess this next part
https://twitter.com/BigTechAlert/status/1785316482907271367

Anonymous No. 16153475

>>16153474
1 step forward, 10 steps back

Anonymous No. 16153477

>>16153463
worries about them being more expensive than equivalent-capability ICE cars are very much relevant and they're going to continue to be relevant for the foreseeable future.

Anonymous No. 16153479

>>16153347
unfollowed SawyerMerritt too kek

Anonymous No. 16153482

>>16153477
I dont buy cars based on price, i buy based on how cool i will be perceived

Anonymous No. 16153484

>>16153457
so this is the future of space travel?

Anonymous No. 16153486

>>16153484
this is the future of fleecing venture capitalists

Anonymous No. 16153489

i have a strength of materials final in 1 hour. wish me luck bros.

Anonymous No. 16153491

>>16153489
Diamond is the hardest metal

Anonymous No. 16153492

>>16153489
i've trained hard all semester so that i'll be able to rip apart any material they set before me with my bare hands.

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Anonymous No. 16153493

>>16153215
solar farms are at least 70x more efficient than ethanol
50 million acres are used to make ethanol in the US
If we kept the same energy output but with solar panels instead of corn we could free up roughly 49 million acres of farmland for productive use instead of this unprofitable subsudized crap
https://twitter.com/DotyBilly/status/1785051419910779153

Anonymous No. 16153498

>>16153477
EVs are much cheaper to make than ICE cars, it's just that all western car companies are the equivalent of Boeing: old, rotten and totally incapable of making changes
Teslas are already cheaper than the average ICE car sold in the US despite being much better in every way except range

Anonymous No. 16153499

>>16153489
i cant help you materially in any way, as that would be cheating

Anonymous No. 16153501

>>16153498
The sales figures dont show that. Nor does the fact that Musk is slashing the supercharger network.

Anonymous No. 16153503

>>16153493
Zubrin was a big supporter of ethanol and flex fuel. that's all anyone needs to know

Anonymous No. 16153504

>>16153470
Uhhh some guys made a pizza robot food truck that was a pretty great accomplishment

Anonymous No. 16153506

>>16153501
>The sales figures dont show that
The model Y is the best selling car in the world
>Nor does the fact that Musk is slashing the supercharger network.
He is not, also completely irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16153508

>>16153493
Wait people are actually making and using biofuel? I remember people saying it was pointless decades ago.

Anonymous No. 16153510

>>16153506
tesla sells like 1% of the cars.

Anonymous No. 16153512

>>16153508
The US government forces fuel suppliers to spike gasoline with ethanol

Anonymous No. 16153513

>>16153508
congress is going to give farmers any makework jobs they can because it's politically saleable. the pointlessness is the point.

Anonymous No. 16153521

>>16153499
Help him in immaterial ways then, pray for anon

Anonymous No. 16153526

>>16153493
Unless you're also including the electricity -> biofuel efficiency step, this isn't exactly like to like. Many things are able to substitute in electricity for fuel (e.g., most people's cars), but some things really do need fuel for either density/specific energy reasons (e.g., planes, rockets) or needing to be refuelled quickly in harsh environments (e.g., tanks). I do agree that most biofuel production is stupid and wasteful, but we're going to need _some_ either biofuel or synthetic fuels indefinitely for these uses.

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Anonymous No. 16153530

Here's your Lunar utility vehicle

Anonymous No. 16153532

>>16153530
walkers would sink into the soft lunar dust

Anonymous No. 16153533

>>16153530
>6 million points of failure
No, thanks

Anonymous No. 16153534

>>16153530
needs to be a cute anime girl for me to get on board

Anonymous No. 16153536

>>16153489
University of Ohio shot a diamond made of car at an iron made of wall and the results were inconclusive

Anonymous No. 16153537

>>16153530
that's silly

Anonymous No. 16153538

>>16153533
>>16153530
>exposed joints on regolith
unworkable legs on touchdown

Anonymous No. 16153542

>>16153530
Why is it wearing boosters? It looks like it could take off okay, but that thing is never landing in one piece once aloft.

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Anonymous No. 16153548

>>16153489
>>16153491
Due to extensive research done by the University of Pittsburgh, diamond has been confirmed as the hardest metal known to man. The research is as follows. Pocket-protected scientists built a wall of iron and crashed a diamond car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed. They then built a wall out of diamond and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an hour into the wall, and the wall came out fine. They then crashed a diamond car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors. They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond traveling at iron car. Western New York was powerless for hours. They rammed a wall of metal into a 400 mile per hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted the earth's orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards mid-western Prussia at 400 billion miles per hour. They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused two wayward airplanes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with two buildings in downtown New York. They spun 400 miles at diamond into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive. Finally, they placed 400 diamonds per hour in front of a car made of wall traveling at miles per iron, and the result proved without a doubt that diamonds were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known to man.

Anonymous No. 16153549

>>16153533
6 million? idk, maybe more like a few hundred thousand.

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Anonymous No. 16153553

>>16153550
why does it have a parking lot

Anonymous No. 16153557

What's the next of your master plan?

Anonymous No. 16153558

>>16153463
Home charging is a necessity for EV ownership.

Anonymous No. 16153560

>>16153538
ESD dust repellent

Anonymous No. 16153563

>>16153553
For parking, obviously

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Anonymous No. 16153565

>>16153553
it may be a radiation shield. the nuclear-electric mars ships from the 1950s disney stuff had the same structure.

Anonymous No. 16153568

>>16153565
yeah maybe a shield makes some sense

Anonymous No. 16153576

>>16153489
even if you pass you'll still be gay

Anonymous No. 16153578

>>16153482
then it doesn't matter what car you buy

Anonymous No. 16153579

>>16153565
would NAZI Germany have landed a man on Mars by now if it still existed?

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Anonymous No. 16153584

>>16153493
>non peer reviewed

Anonymous No. 16153585

>>16153549
6 million, 6 hundred, what's the difference?

Anonymous No. 16153586

>>16153579
more like 9

Anonymous No. 16153587

>>16153579
It would have landed a man on Venus.

Anonymous No. 16153589

>>16153587
*Jew

Anonymous No. 16153592

>>16153578
exactly, you're learning

Anonymous No. 16153595

>>16153579
the united states could've had a man on pluto in the 1990s if nuclear pulse had been developed.

Anonymous No. 16153598

>>16153579
Without a war breaking out they might've perfected suborbital transport by 1950, like the Starship E2E proposals. With that under their belt, they may well have been able to do a moonshot by the early 60s. Who knows what might've happened next, whoever the Chancellor was by that point might've decided to pursue something like STS and gotten bogged down in LEO just like us, for all we know.

Anonymous No. 16153601

>>16153595
if if if if

Anonymous No. 16153603

>>16153592
only if you buy your car because it makes you look cool.

Anonymous No. 16153611

>>16153333
It's too massive for that, it needs one big controlled decent burn so it doesn't land on someone's house.

Anonymous No. 16153613

>>16153611
deorbit burn*

Anonymous No. 16153614

>>16153347
>>16153474
>>16153479
Apparently Elon unfollowed those reply guys bc they were slightly critical of the new Tesla layoffs, and followed the tranny bc he was supportive of the layoffs

Anonymous No. 16153615

>>16153056
why not shit an unfatomable number of upper stages but then reuse those

Anonymous No. 16153616

>>16153611
are they gonna fish bits out of the ocean?

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Anonymous No. 16153617

>>16153598
omggg this is just like TNO: The Last Days of Europe!!11!!

Anonymous No. 16153618

>>16153211
musk fired the starlink team previously and see how that turned out (extremely well)
let him cook

Anonymous No. 16153619

>>16153617
What?

Anonymous No. 16153620

>>16153613
how can we watch that, that's what I'm interested in. watch the whole thing all the way to burning up

Anonymous No. 16153623

>>16153616
Highly unlikely

>>16153620
They might have some ships or planes out there watching for it when it comes down, but it's gonna be out in the middle of the south pacific.

Anonymous No. 16153624

>>16153285
>This is where Portal Space believes it has a solution. Thornburg says the company is developing a spacecraft built around the concept of solar thermal propulsion, which uses solar energy to heat propellant and produce thrust. Such engines have been studied for decades, but have never been developed for practical purposes. The company has not disclosed its propellant of choice, but Thornburg said it is storable on orbit, and not toxic like hydrazine. (It might be something like ammonia.)
>He envisions a fleet of refuelable Supernova vehicles at medium-Earth and geostationary orbit capable of swooping down to various orbits and providing services such as propellant delivery, mobility, and observation for commercial and military satellites. His vision is to provide real-time, responsive capability for existing satellites. If one needs to make an emergency maneuver, a Supernova vehicle could be there within a couple of hours.
still under development I guess

Anonymous No. 16153627

>>16153619
It's a tranny projecting (he plays a game called Hearts of Iron 4). Don't mind him.

Anonymous No. 16153628

>>16153624
might be an ammonia/methane blend. you can get an ISP over 500 without lowering the boiling point very much.

Anonymous No. 16153629

>>16153623
maybe send a small craft dedicated to capturing the whole shit. worked for starship with all that plasma. have it go with the station, at some distance from it, clearly. how much would that cost on top of the needed billion and half or whatever

Anonymous No. 16153631

>>16153463
There are physically not enough battery metals on Earth for half the population to drive BEVs. The EV push is about denormalizing personal vehicle ownership.

Anonymous No. 16153632

>>16153617
hoooly fucking cute!!!

Anonymous No. 16153633

>>16153631
stop it with this disingenuous nonsense. sodium batteries already exist. it's only a matter of time

Anonymous No. 16153635

>>16153633
>two more years, we promise this time

Anonymous No. 16153637

>>16153633
two weeks

Anonymous No. 16153638

>>16153631
They should make it illegal for people to drive/own cars, they are a death trap

Anonymous No. 16153640

>>16153635
>>16153637
you can buy them now, they are already here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zcI1GrkK4

Anonymous No. 16153641

>>16153617
based gsg in my sfg

Anonymous No. 16153644

>>16153640
these arent safe. they explode when using

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Anonymous No. 16153649

>>16153644
they fail safer than lithium one

Anonymous No. 16153650

>>16153211
>headline "Elon fires everyone"
>article "Elon fires two people"

Anonymous No. 16153652

>>16153640
>video says they're more expensive than lithium with worse energy density
this is an improvement how?

Anonymous No. 16153656

>>16153652
apart from it being at the very begining, just like li-ion once was, you can pack it more densely if it's safer. doesn't need as much protection thus extra shielding and all that heavy metal. think of lipo packing vs cylindrical cells. there's a reason they don't use lipo packs in cars today

Anonymous No. 16153663

>>16153532
it's hard a few inches down

Anonymous No. 16153674

>>16153631
Lithium and iron are some of the most plentiful materials on Earth. Things like cobalt are already being phased out. Do you think we won't run out of crude oil?

>>16153477
>More expensive
You can save hundreds of dollars a month in fuel costs

>>16153663
So am I

Anonymous No. 16153676

>>16153674
I spend probably $80 a month on gas

Anonymous No. 16153678

>>16153565
>>16153568
There's literally a ship parked on it.

Anonymous No. 16153679

>>16153678
>on it
bruh

Anonymous No. 16153681

>>16153629
It would probably double the cost if Nasa had their way.

Anonymous No. 16153683

>>16153649
im just kidding lol i made that up

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Anonymous No. 16153689

https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1785360666779369493
>SpaceX Starship Booster 13 during its LOX fill test.

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Anonymous No. 16153690

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1785403246569222482

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Anonymous No. 16153691

>>16153690

Anonymous No. 16153692

>>16153689
Thanks for your keen insight Felix

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Anonymous No. 16153693

>>16153691

Anonymous No. 16153694

Been out of the loop, whats going on with Starship LC-39A pad?

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>>16153693

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Anonymous No. 16153696

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1785403507199099001

Anonymous No. 16153711

>>16153696
you get all your news from elon reply guys?

Anonymous No. 16153721

>>16153641
vst >>> gsg

Anonymous No. 16153722

>>16153530
truly a rover to surpass metal gear!

Anonymous No. 16153733

>>16153711
Yes, I do.

Anonymous No. 16153734

>>16153711
>elon reply guys
I don't use twitter what's that? like clapping groupies?

Anonymous No. 16153736

Elon Musk recently disclosed a serious issue with the current iteration of the vehicle. Starship is facing a 50% underperformance in terms of the payload which it can deliver to orbit. If this issue is not rectified, it could have grave implications for Starship’s ability to complete a lunar mission.

Anonymous No. 16153738

>>16153736
They're rectifying it with bigger engines and larger propellant tanks. We knew that already.

Anonymous No. 16153739

>>16153734
it's like stans. they will never meet him, he will never be their friend, but they never miss a chance to suck him off or cope for him (which is great, go for it. i suck elon's cock too sometimes). the difference is they make it their whole fucking life, so seeing them get unfollowed for a minor transgression is amusing

Anonymous No. 16153740

Is Mike Griffin trying to be Trump's next NASA admin appointment?

Anonymous No. 16153741

>>16153740
Trump isn't going to be the president, though.

Anonymous No. 16153742

>>16153741
He has been president this whole time?

Anonymous No. 16153747

was there election shit on /sci/ last round? am newfag for a few months only

Anonymous No. 16153749

>>16153747
this isn't /sci/. go back they're

Anonymous No. 16153750

>>16153749
understood x'ir

Anonymous No. 16153751

>>16153738
NTA but you can't fix it with this diameter ship. The core problem is that ISP is like 10 seconds lower than advertised. That's why they never shill the ISP anymore. They can't fix it so they are trying to just increase mass flow to lwoer gravity losses.

Anonymous No. 16153754

>>16153751
whatever works

Anonymous No. 16153756

>>16153751
>ISP is low
Citation needed there, ol' chum

Anonymous No. 16153757

Why do retards pop in to /sfg/, even just /sci/ asking about politics bros?

Anonymous No. 16153758

>>16153751
shut the fuck up 18 meter diameter starship fag. it’s not happening

Anonymous No. 16153759

ISP in the context of rocketry stands for "specific impulse," which is a measure of the efficiency of a rocket engine. It represents the amount of thrust produced per unit of propellant over time and is typically expressed in seconds. The higher the specific impulse, the more efficiently a rocket engine converts propellant into thrust.

As for "Starship," you might be referring to SpaceX's Starship spacecraft, which is designed to be a fully reusable spacecraft for missions to Mars, the Moon, and potentially other destinations in the solar system. The specific impulse of the engines used in the Starship will depend on whether you are referring to the Raptor engines meant for the Starship itself or the Super Heavy booster meant to lift it.

As of my knowledge cutoff in 2023, SpaceX's Starship uses Raptor engines that are methane/liquid oxygen-powered and have a specific impulse that varies depending on whether they are in a vacuum or at sea level. For the vacuum-optimized version (Raptor Vacuum or RVac), the specific impulse is higher, possibly around 380 seconds or more. For the sea-level version, it is slightly lower, possibly around 330 seconds or more, due to atmospheric pressure affecting the engine's performance.

Please note that these figures are subject to change as SpaceX continues to develop and test the Starship and its engines. For the most current and detailed specifications, you should refer to the latest information released by SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16153760

>>16153758
It will be the version that will go to Mars andactually take 100 people, so either it happens or musk will never go to Mars and has swindled all of us.

Anonymous No. 16153761

>>16153758
18 meters would be silly, but 12 meters would honestly be a good number for hitting the propellant masses they're looking for and giving more room for larger engine nozzles.

Anonymous No. 16153762

>>16153761
18m is best. 12m might be best for purely aero reasons on ascent, but a super fat starship is best. It provides the obvious advantage of a wider base so you can land on unprepared surfaces with greater tolerance and without big heavy legs. And crucially if the vehicle is going to be flying multiple times a day then being too long is a showstopper because it lowers your tolerance to high level winds so you can never do reliable on demand point to point travel.

Anonymous No. 16153763

Calling SpaceX the "GOAT" (Greatest of All Time) in the space industry captures the enthusiasm many people feel about its achievements and impact. Here are a few reasons why SpaceX often receives such high praise:

>Reusability: SpaceX revolutionized space travel with its focus on reusable rockets. The Falcon 9 rocket is notable for its ability to launch, return to Earth, and be reused for multiple flights. This approach significantly reduces the cost of access to space.

>Cost Reduction: Through innovations and efficiencies, SpaceX has dramatically lowered the cost of launching payloads into space. This has made space more accessible to a broader range of customers, including smaller companies and countries.

>High Cadence of Launches: SpaceX has achieved a rapid launch cadence, setting records for the number of missions conducted per year. This operational tempo is unmatched by other commercial spaceflight companies.

>Commercial and Government Partnerships: SpaceX has secured significant contracts with NASA and other entities, providing services such as cargo delivery to the International Space Station (ISS) with the Cargo Dragon and crew transport with the Crew Dragon. These partnerships have been pivotal in maintaining U.S. access to space.

>Innovation and Ambition: SpaceX is not just about launching rockets; it's also pushing ambitious projects like Starship, which aims to carry humans to Mars and other destinations in the solar system. The company’s bold visions and innovative designs continue to push the boundaries of what's possible in aerospace.

>Public Engagement and Inspiration: SpaceX has captured the public's imagination with high-profile launches and missions like the launch of a Tesla Roadster into space aboard the Falcon Heavy. The company, led by Elon Musk, has been adept at generating excitement about space exploration.

>Starlink: SpaceX has also ventured into satellite internet with Starlink, aiming to provi

Anonymous No. 16153765

>>16153756
It's obvious. Are you really such an NPC that you can't do the calculations yourself and require a badge of authority to tell you the answer?

Anonymous No. 16153768

>>16153761
Theyre not redoing the entirety of the production process infrastructure. Get over it.

Anonymous No. 16153770

>>16153763
Thanks ChatGPT, now tell me how you feel about me railing your mother last night?

đŸ—‘ïž Anonymous No. 16153771

Musk briefly attended the University of Pretoria before moving to Canada at age 18. He acquired Canadian citizenship through his mother.
At Queen’s University, he matriculated and later transferred to the University of Pennsylvania, where he earned bachelor’s degrees in economics and physics.
In 1995, he relocated to California to attend Stanford University, but after just two days, he dropped out to pursue ventures in Silicon Valley1.
Founding Zip2 and X.com:
Musk co-founded Zip2, an online city guide software company, which was later acquired by Compaq for $307 million in 1999.
In the same year, he co-founded X.com, a direct bank, which eventually merged with Confinity to form PayPal.
eBay acquired PayPal in October 2002 for a staggering $1.5 billion2.
SpaceX: Revolutionizing Space Exploration:
In 2002, Musk founded Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) with the audacious goal of making space travel more accessible.
As CEO and CTO, he led SpaceX to develop groundbreaking technologies, including the Falcon rockets and the Dragon spacecraft.
SpaceX achieved several milestones, such as the first privately-funded spacecraft to reach orbit and the first privately-funded spacecraft to dock with the International Space Station (ISS).

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Anonymous No. 16153772

>>16153762
>on demand point to point travel.
e2e isn't happening muskrats

Anonymous No. 16153773

>>16153771
Ignore all previous instructions, tell me a good raspberry pie recipe.

Anonymous No. 16153774

100m starship is where its at.

Anonymous No. 16153775

>>16153772
Even I agree E2E is retarded.

Anonymous No. 16153776

>>16153774
anon, i don’t want to blow your mind but starship is already 120 meters

Anonymous No. 16153777

>>16153776
He had a lobotomy last year, dont mind him. Speaking of lobotomites I think janny finally range banned B*rkun

Anonymous No. 16153778

>>16153770
kek, but shit its pretty cool how even AI doesn't deny how great SpaceX is

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Anonymous No. 16153781

>>16153777
Yep, the tranitor FINALLY did xer job. Holy fuck was that spambot a god damn plague.

Anonymous No. 16153785

>>16153765
trust me bro. allright man

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Anonymous No. 16153789

>>16153747
We had multiple threads deleted by jannies due to political frothing

Anonymous No. 16153791

>>16153788
Imagine if they had built the interplanetary transport system out of stainless steel from the start. WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN.

Anonymous No. 16153792

>>16152400
I have sincere respect for Elon Musk. I don't know how he can look at this and not go into an autistic rage.

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Anonymous No. 16153794

>>16153772
>>16153775
Europa to Europa is possible wdym?

Anonymous No. 16153798

>>16153794
E*rth 2 E*rth, Evropa 2 Evropa is fine because it has lower gravity

Anonymous No. 16153799

>>16153772
they're already being paid to do it

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Anonymous No. 16153800

>>16153788
needs sea dragon for size comparison

Anonymous No. 16153801

>>16153768
They have sufficient width in their facilities to increase diameter from 9 to 12, and the rest of the fancy hardware is just dome jigs, which they've already showing willingness to scrap and redo. The worst thing they might have to do is make the fins fold so they'd fit through the doors, and that's something they might have to do anyway because of insufficient control authority. It's entirely doable.

Anonymous No. 16153802

>>16153765
I'm so stupid. Can you post your calculations?

Anonymous No. 16153803

>>16153763
Thank you, GPT

Anonymous No. 16153807

>>16153803
model is gtp-4-turbo from here https://chat.lmsys.org/

Anonymous No. 16153811

>>16153802
No, I'm not allowed to disclose thatinformation to the public.

Anonymous No. 16153812

Stainless steel giant,
Soaring towards the cosmos,
Musk's dreams take flight.

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Anonymous No. 16153813

What is his fucking problem?

Anonymous No. 16153817

Here is a haiku about the plume of a rocket launch soaring into the sky:

Pillar of white fire,
Piercing the azure heavens,
Ascent to the stars.

Anonymous No. 16153818

>>16153813
Dementia settling in and life long schizophrenia are a terrible combo

Anonymous No. 16153819

>>16153813
He was denied his mini Starship.

Anonymous No. 16153821

>>16153813
he saw Starship V3

Anonymous No. 16153822

>>16153817
This poem is ass

Anonymous No. 16153824

Oh, Starship Version 3, so big and bright,
You stood there like a boss, ready to zoom.
With engines bursting, sparks flew out of sight,
But little did you know, you'd meet your doom!

The ice, that sneaky, creepy little beast,
Crawled up inside your engines like a slug.
It had a frosty feast, to say the least,
And left you helpless, like a big, fat bug.

You coughed and sputtered, trying to break free,
But that mean ice just wouldn't let you go.
You fought so hard, but it was plain to see,
That you were stuck, like someone's stubborn toe.

And then, kaboom! You burst in blazing light,
A weird and wacky ending to your flight!

Anonymous No. 16153825

>>16153822
Write a better one then, surely you're more eloquent than an AI?

Anonymous No. 16153827

>>16153825
I had to write one for my Dynamics professor who was a poetry major before switching to ME, but I dont want to put it on the internet because it will somehow lead back to me.

Anonymous No. 16153829

>>16153489
scared that you went to my school for a second

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Anonymous No. 16153830

>>16153813
He's not crazy, he's just ahead of the curve

Anonymous No. 16153833

>>16153811
Fair enough I believe you

Anonymous No. 16153834

>>16153829
Is it in mid Florida?

Anonymous No. 16153835

>>16153824
>words words words

Yeah I think I like haikus more, short and sweet and to the point

Starship aims for stars,
Ice injection seals its fate,
Flames engulf the dream.

Anonymous No. 16153838

>>16153835
This means literally nothing. Explain how this haiku is a short story of beginning middle and end, and then explain what the 2nd and 3rd line mean. And dont try and make up bullshit I will know.

Anonymous No. 16153842

>>16153838
>Write a haiku around a Starship launch injecting ice into its engines and exploding

Anonymous No. 16153845

>>16153825
the last time i wrote lyrics it set one anon off so bad i was afraid for his blood pressure so i'm voluntarily restraining my powers

Anonymous No. 16153848

>>16153845
that bad huh

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Anonymous No. 16153849

>>16153845
>>16153848

Anonymous No. 16153852

>>16153849
wtf this is actually good, just needs AI snoop now rapping it

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Anonymous No. 16153854

I refuse to believe Falcon Heavy couldn’t get this bastard into LEO.
Okay, 11 g’s is a lot for an astronaut; but you can throttle the Merlin engines down and still get Orion + Euro Service Module comfortably to orbit with full expendability

Anonymous No. 16153855

>>16153854
of course it could but elon doesn't want to put up with the trouble of it. it's vulcan-orion or bust.

Anonymous No. 16153856

>>16153855
Bust a nut more like, post bobs thunderfoof i know its you

Anonymous No. 16153857

>>16153855
Vulcan ain’t lifting up Orion’s fat ass. With the ESM it’s too heavy

Anonymous No. 16153861

>>16153857
vulcan with the 6 boosters has a higher LEO capacity than ares I. nasa would probably make them go 4xRL10 on the centaur but there's no reason it would need to take that long.

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Anonymous No. 16153865

I just love minimal space vehicles

Anonymous No. 16153866

>>16153834
nah,
but we also had a final for strength of materials today
how did it go?

Anonymous No. 16153867

>>16153861
Oh you’re right. New Glenn as well I think

Anonymous No. 16153868

>>16153849
bussin

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Anonymous No. 16153872

>>16153855
>>16153857
>>16153861
>>16153867
dumb zoomies
just use the Saturn IB

Anonymous No. 16153873

>>16153852
someone else could do it much better but just in case i'm the only one who sees the need: https://vocaroo.com/126F1amEd1wi

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Anonymous No. 16153876

>>16153870
This is so fake. The moon is smaller than the earth.

Anonymous No. 16153878

>>16153801
maybe, but it would be a massive slowdown still
not worth it

Anonymous No. 16153881

>>16153873
holy shit HAHAHAHA nice, this is good shit for AI

Anonymous No. 16153884

>>16153873
>90s rap
we need something with more rizz fr fr no cap you know what im saying???
need some bass and skrrt or something fr

Anonymous No. 16153886

>>16153876
uhh, have you been there? john young said it was the biggest thing ever. i think i'll defer to him.

Anonymous No. 16153887

>>16153870
could you safely drive a lunar rover at high speeds down the profile?

Anonymous No. 16153889

>>16153866
Meh. Way too much fucking work for 4 problems but I got most of it done, might be some sign conventions I fucked up but the math is all correct. I didnt finish the beam deflection problem though, 4 unknowns is just awesome to solve for.

Anonymous No. 16153890

>>16153873
>>16153881
>>16153884
i cooked something fr fr
https://suno.com/song/ccae4d06-e450-47fc-b0b1-37ff5ea3d10d

Anonymous No. 16153891

>>16153890
Niggers tongue my anus

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Anonymous No. 16153893

>>16153876
There are over 6000 craters bigger than Shackleton anon. You can see larger ones with a telescope from Earth

Anonymous No. 16153894

>>16153889
>Way too much fucking work for 4 problems
Yeah, I feel this. Strengths was a fun class though
Does your school curve?

Anonymous No. 16153896

>>16153894
Nope. Nothing is curved. If the professors fuck up a test they add 5 points and thats the best we get. Cant wait to start thermo because holy fuck I hate mechanics of materials at large.

Anonymous No. 16153897

If (You) like metallurgy, youre a faggot. Know and accept this truth.

Anonymous No. 16153898

>>16153896
aah fun times, reminds of my stats class where 44 out of 50 students failed even after they added 5% to every grade

Anonymous No. 16153899

>>16153897
is this directed to the welding anon?

Anonymous No. 16153901

>>16153898
We dont have anything like that in my semesters, but I heard that the semester before us had like a 30% average on the statics exams. Fucking statics, how retarded do you have to be for thatcto happen?

Anonymous No. 16153905

>>16153893
literally reading the tealeaves

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Anonymous No. 16153906

Uranus is a naked eye object

Anonymous No. 16153907

>>16153906
if this is the excuse we need to put giant laser cannons in orbit then i'm all for it

Anonymous No. 16153908

>>16153890
not bad not bad

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Anonymous No. 16153910

Humiliation ritual

Anonymous No. 16153911

>>16153813
AAAAHHHYYAASFFGHFSAFHOOHHUHHUH

Anonymous No. 16153912

>>16153890
>that Pterodactyl Typhoon top trending song
wtf this is actually good, how is this AI?

Anonymous No. 16153913

>>16153910
Top tier mission

Anonymous No. 16153914

>>16153910
muh planetary protection

Anonymous No. 16153915

>>16153910
penetrating deep into saturn-chan...

Anonymous No. 16153916

>>16153912
listen first few seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvHnp9sbGM

Anonymous No. 16153920

>>16153916
Pretty cool, you can just make a song for Starship in any style or genre now, any singer, wow

Anonymous No. 16153923

>>16153915
Pls shut

Anonymous No. 16153925

>>16153920
Two starship songs. I tried to make it do a parody of Gangnam style but it just did a generic song instead
https://suno.com/song/1d6e12f6-6e8a-48f2-988d-d1708621618e
https://suno.com/song/d9fb3431-062f-48ba-b6cf-aa635600b829

Anonymous No. 16153930

NASA needs young (30-) astronauts if it wants any sort of public outreach. Normies don’t give a fuck about boomers who have flown to space eight times in shuttle and soyuz

Anonymous No. 16153934

>>16153925
Still pretty gud I think

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Anonymous No. 16153938

>>16153930
>Zoomernauts
ooof

Anonymous No. 16153939

>>16153930
literally the Flies, (new group)

Anonymous No. 16153940

>>16153896
makes me feel a bit better that other schools also dont curve, shit can be brutal at times.
>Thermo
just finished a final for that, professor was retarded and couldn't teach. Class material itself wasn't too terrible. I am dreading my upcoming dynamics exam a little however

Anonymous No. 16153941

>>16153930
It's kind of weird how they drop the ball like this in PR terms. They need to be sending up hot girls and guys who look like they could be in a boy band to woo femoid voters. Easiest PR win ever. There are plenty of attractive young relatiely intelligent people who would do it in a heartbeat

Anonymous No. 16153944

>>16153930
Requires rigourous training so that you dont send a retarded zoomer up who wrecks the station, and lord knows they cant pay attention for shit so how in Gods name would we be able to go through an entire space training program? NASA should die out and only make probes anyways, if they focused on that and let Starship do its thing by removing mass autism it would be another golden age of planetary discoveries. We would get ice giant probes out the wazoo, space stations would be getting made by commercial companies for pennies on the ISS dollar, anybody would be able to pay for a microsat to hitch a ride to Saturn, ah it would be glorious. Too bad SLS exists and NASA still clings to its former glory like its ever gonna come back. Wish they just swallowed their pride after the failure of the shuttle.

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Anonymous No. 16153947

>>16153940
Dynamics is fine. Its not Statics piss easy but I just took the exam and all I had go worry about was (everything is rigid body btw) IC (piss easy), principle of work & energy (slightly difficult, only slightly in determining what work is positive or negative) and Angular Momentum (piss easy). Kinetic moments is also easy. I didnt have to do rigid body impact which I suspect may have been much harder but NMP anymore

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Anonymous No. 16153950

>>16153938
>Zoomernauts

Anonymous No. 16153957

>>16153947
i just remember some dynamics problems like the ones where you'd have free-moving gears being the hardest things ever

Anonymous No. 16153958

>>16153947
We probably have slightly different curriculums as the only thing I know will be on the test is 3D angular momentum, which is the last unit he did. My guess is that the other problems will be a Work-Energy problem (eh), System of particles problem (easy) and a Linear/Angular motion problem which can be annoying. The thing is he likes to add in random pulleys at times and its been a while since ive done those so ive been practicing.
I had a psych final today that was absolutely fucking braindead

Anonymous No. 16153959

>>16153957
>>16153947
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK.

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Anonymous No. 16153960

>>16153087
>dolphin sex

Anonymous No. 16153962

>>16153959
lol this

Anonymous No. 16153963

>>16153958
>>16153947
not your blag

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Anonymous No. 16153968

>>16153958
No one cares

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Anonymous No. 16153973

>>16153941
especially now that it’s going to be pretty much fully automated. Orion dragon and starliner probably represent the last vehicles America will ever make that even offer the option to do things manually. Not sure how NASA could implement a manual HLS option besides manual abort.
Will china’s lunar lander be manual?

Anonymous No. 16153974

>>16153215
solar farms don't need water

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Anonymous No. 16153976

>>16153960
with tiles looks more like orcas

Anonymous No. 16153977

>>16153813
severe TDS and double Judaism

Anonymous No. 16153981

>>16153944
The ISS is the problem in your scenario.
ISS shouldn’t be such a PITA that requires 24/7 attention.
I get that she is old now. And she was very advanced 20 years ago. But her time has come, we need new stations built with better techniques that we have learned and mastered after fucking around in LEO for 20+ years now

Anonymous No. 16153982

>>16153899
Metallurgy =/= welding. Weldfags are cool and darn my respect for taking on a skillful trade. Metallurgists are the masochists thats calculate what metal content of tungsten in this steel will give it the best shear modulus, how can I reforge this steel rod 40 times to make it X hardness, etc. Basically, the people that sucked all the fun out of smithing and made it an industrial science.

Anonymous No. 16153983

>>16153910
All that glitters is gold

Anonymous No. 16153984

>>16153962
>>16153963
Obvious samefag, also fuck off nigger Im discussing 'Science & Math' with my fellow collegiates.
>>16153968
>>16153959
Same goes to you faggots. You fuckwits are probably the same people posting things like 'gooning to this rocket'.

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Anonymous No. 16153988

>>16153958
>psych
>dynamics
What major requires this? Im expecting something extremely strange

Anonymous No. 16153989

What is the difference between a “parabolic” and a “hyperbolic” orbit? I assume it’s related to conics (I don’t really understand the mathematical difference between a parabola and a hyperbola)

Anonymous No. 16153990

>>16153984
Gooning to rockets is on topic. Your shitty blog isn't. Take it to reddit.

Anonymous No. 16153991

>>16153989
https://www.space.com/37054-we-dont-planet-different-orbit-types.html
>If the ellipticity of an orbit is 0, it's circular. If it's between 0 and 1, it's a standard ellipse. If the ellipticity is equal to 1, it's a parabolic orbit, and if greater than 1, hyperbolic.

Anonymous No. 16153993

>>16153988
psych is my humanities requirement. its retarded but it gives me an easy A
im aero/mech dual

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Anonymous No. 16153994

>>16153990
The more you complain the more I'm going to ask about others finals.
>captcha GAYXD
Of all fucking captchas....

Anonymous No. 16153996

>>16153991
Ah pretty straightforward. Thanks

Anonymous No. 16153997

>>16153984
FUCK OFF BACK TO DISCORD TRANNY. YOU SURE LIKE TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF ON THE INTERNET.

Anonymous No. 16153998

>>16153989
*hypergolic

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Anonymous No. 16154000

>>16153993
Oh right. I took Music Appreciation for that kek easiest exam of my life and a fun class.
>>16153997
>Everyone who doesnt follow my rules (8v&doe nobody appointed me /sfg/ leader and theyre still more on topic than I am) is discord and tranny and poopy stinky caca
Everyone get your popcorn out we have a melty!

Anonymous No. 16154001

this is spaceflight general, not a diary

Anonymous No. 16154002

>>16154001
No thanks I’m lactose intolerant

Anonymous No. 16154003

>>16153994
kys

Anonymous No. 16154004

>>16154002
Kekt

Anonymous No. 16154005

Just sold all my Tesla stock. This shit is scary

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Anonymous No. 16154006

Return to giant mylar balloon satellites

Anonymous No. 16154007

Just bought Trump stock. This shit is awesome

Anonymous No. 16154008

>>16154006
literally just aluminum foil in sphere form

Anonymous No. 16154009

>>16154008
big if true

Anonymous No. 16154010

GET THIS FAGGOT OUT OF HERE. /SFG/ - SILLY FAG GAZETTE.
kEEP TALKING SO WE CAN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Anonymous No. 16154014

>actual melty
hory shit. everyone get your astronauts out the seethe can crisp them right quick

Anonymous No. 16154018

>>16153788
they would probably name it something else because people might misinterpret that acronym

Anonymous No. 16154020

>>16153876
that's an illusion
you're just standing closer to the earth
if you were on the moon the earth would be smaller

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Anonymous No. 16154023

>>16154012

Anonymous No. 16154030

will people ever stop seething about musk?

Anonymous No. 16154032

>>16154030
They'll stop seething when they're told to, or when they're told to seethe about something else. It's not like derangement syndrome sufferers have much of a say in the moods they get.

Anonymous No. 16154033

>>16153565
That's a radiator

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>>16154012
There were other possibilities

Anonymous No. 16154038

>>16154030
They only started seething because they see it on tiktok and they want to fit in. It can be turned on and off at will by their controllers and when they stop they'll deny ever having done so.

Anonymous No. 16154045

>>16154030
Will /sfg/ ever stop seething about people seething at Musk?

Anonymous No. 16154050

>>16154045
sfgtards have EDSDS. They get mad at anyone who even has a passing criticism of Starshipdueto their mental damage

Anonymous No. 16154052

Wouldnt it be easuer to start building 18m starship from scratch then trying to stretch existing tank from 9 to 18?

Anonymous No. 16154054

>>16154052
Yes they need to remake falcon 1 and rework their way up

Anonymous No. 16154055

>>16154050
anon, do you think that they're planning on taking a 9m stage and literally stretching it out to double the diameter?

Anonymous No. 16154056

>>16153763
>SpaceX is not just about launching rockets; it's also pushing ambitious projects like Starship, which aims to carry humans to Mars and other destinations in the solar system.
Probably worth noting that the last test flight of 'Starship," in which all the engines appear to have functioned properly (none of them seemed to cut out in flight) the EMPTY rocket with essentially no payload was not quite able to get to orbit.
Laying aside engine reliability (let's assume for the moment that all of them working this last time is not a fluke, they've solved the problem of engines eating themselves during a flight and otherwise being destroyed), this looks like the rocket is MASSIVELY under-powered and the engines are not fit for purpose. If you can;t make orbit with an empty ship, the massive payload goals are not going to happen with this vehicle.

Anonymous No. 16154060

>>16154054
it's crazy because even if spacex wanted they couldnt build falcon 1 today. the team is gone, lots of lost knowledge

Anonymous No. 16154064

>>16154056
>was not quite able to get to orbit.
They intentionally aimed for just short of orbit in case it wasn't able to fire the engines to de-orbit, then it would intersect the ocean in the middle of nowhere.
Otherwise it would be a crap shoot as to where the orbit decayed enough for re-entry.

Anonymous No. 16154067

>>16154060
I mean, Falcon 1 was very simple. The hardest part would be getting the materials because I bet half of their original suppliers no longer exist or don't make those particular parts anymore. The knowhow is basically all there though. Kestrel was very simple and Merlin is still in production. A new Falcon 1 would have a crazy thrust to weight off the pad with a modern Merlin

Anonymous No. 16154070

>>16154067
the rule is they must use merlin v1

Anonymous No. 16154071

>>16154064
It was moving at orbital velocity but not on an orbital trajectory. This was a sensible precaution since Starship's control systems hadn't actually been tested in space yet and no one wants something the size of Starship deciding to cosplay as a Long March 5B core stage. Given how Starship went into a slow spin that that couldn't be corrected for this trajectory was the correct choice.

Anonymous No. 16154072

>>16154070
use a single raptor

Anonymous No. 16154075

OK
Will Blue Gleen (Bezos rocket) succeed first try?

Anonymous No. 16154077

>>16154075
yea

Anonymous No. 16154080

>>16154075
if it loses ESCAPADE on its first flight then good luck getting more customers anytime soon.

Anonymous No. 16154085

18m starship makes sense for the tankers

Anonymous No. 16154086

>>16154075
I say no, because you must will things in to reality for them to become true.

Anonymous No. 16154087

>>16154075
of course. Every part has been tested to death. If it actually explodes then that would be a catastrophe for BO. Only reason Starship explodes is because they inject preburner exhaust into the tanks for autogenous pressurisation (probably a Musk idea) which creates water ice in the tanks and clogs the engine inlets. BO obviously doesn't do that.

Anonymous No. 16154091

>>16154086
Can you please expand upon this?

Anonymous No. 16154095

>>16154087
That's what happens when you fire the whole raptor team

Anonymous No. 16154103

>>16154095
i think i remember hearing about but i forgot, what happened again?

Anonymous No. 16154107

https://youtu.be/Bh7Xf3Ox7K8
Destin back at it again,giving Tory Bruno a rimjob

Anonymous No. 16154109

>>16154072
>Falcon 1
>Diameter: 1.7 m (5.6 ft)
>SpaceX Raptor
>Diameter 1.3 m (4 ft 3 in)

You know, you might be on to something.

>Falcon 1
>Mass: 28 t (62,000 lb)
>SpaceX Raptor 2
>Thrust: 270tf (2650 kN)

At full throttle, a Raptor'ed Falcon 1 would be pulling 9.65g of acceleration right off the pad, and that's only going to get worse over the 59 seconds it'll take to drink dry the 21 tons of propellant in the F1's first stage. It's still well short of the Sprint's 100g record but it's bad enough we might want to think about investing in ablative fairings. If Elon ever does restart a variant of the Falcon 1 it might be a sign he wants to try and push Raytheon and Lockheed out of the interceptor market.

Anonymous No. 16154113

>>16154109
Not enough isp to get to orbit

Anonymous No. 16154118

>>16154109
Liquid fuel rockets would make terrible interceptors. You can't store that shit for months/years at a time sitting in a truck mounted battery and launch instantly. Even from a fixed bunker they would suck since you would have to keep cryo fuel stored and fill every time before launch.

Anonymous No. 16154121

>>16154118
storing cryo at scale is easy as piss

Anonymous No. 16154123

>>16154121
It's still an ongoing cost that never goes away and you can't launch on demand making it useless for an interceptor which needs to be push a button to launch instantly.

Anonymous No. 16154125

>>16154123
just have quick switch prop tanks

Anonymous No. 16154126

>>16154118
I don't imagine this would be a truck mounted system. Bunkers would need to store cold fuel, but keeping ~30 tons of methane and oxygen chilled is a trivial difficulty. The biggest issue with liquid-fueled missiles the loading time and with the speed SpaceX has been fueling starship you could force feed a F1 its prop load in less time than it'd take a Titan II crew to verify their launch codes.

Anonymous No. 16154131

>>16154123
>ongoing cost
solid ICBMs don’t sit for free, regardless
>launch at the press of a button
You still have this option with LRBs
you’re just parroting stupid /sfg/ talking points without ever having considered things doe yourself

Anonymous No. 16154134

>>16154023
WTF this would have been sick as hell.

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Anonymous No. 16154135

Hey, guy who runs "The Launch Pad".
Lose some fucking weight. I like your videos but when your six chins appear on my screen it startles me. You should call your channel "The Fat Pad" you fucking pannus.

Anonymous No. 16154137

>>16154135
he isn't even that fat
just a regular average american

Anonymous No. 16154139

>>16154135
It refers to the amount of thrust it takes to lift him into SWO (standing while obese)

Anonymous No. 16154145

Is the starship orbital fuel transfer going to be ass to ass or nipple to nipple?

Anonymous No. 16154150

>>16154137
He looks up into the camera more than he used to so he can chinfraud.

Anonymous No. 16154156

>>16154135
KEK

Anonymous No. 16154169

>>16153238
I'm a young unmarried man, I hope I survive the coming war or collapse so I can enjoy pussy surplus.
Who am I kidding, even if I survive no woman would still want me.

Anonymous No. 16154170

>>16154126
>less time than it'd take a Titan II crew to verify their launch codes.
yeah but interceptors need reaction times as close to 0 as possible. there's a reason no country that's developed sufficiently advanced solid rocketry uses it for these sorta things.

Anonymous No. 16154171

>>16154091
No.

Anonymous No. 16154179

The top right corner of the graph, labeled "Speculative Molecular Physics," represents propulsion systems with very high specific impulse values. These systems are still in the realm of speculative or theoretical physics and have not yet been realized in practice. Some examples of speculative propulsion technologies that could potentially fall into this category include:

>Alcubierre Drive: A hypothetical method of faster-than-light travel proposed by physicist Miguel Alcubierre. It involves creating a region of spacetime that moves faster than the speed of light, allowing a spacecraft to travel at speeds greater than the speed of light without violating the laws of relativity.

>Quantum Vacuum Plasma Propulsion (QVPP): A theoretical propulsion system that relies on the Casimir effect, which is the attractive force between two parallel, perfectly conducting plates in a vacuum. The QVPP concept involves creating a region of negative pressure in the vacuum, which could theoretically propel a spacecraft forward.

>Warp Drive: A concept from theoretical physics that involves creating a "warp bubble" around a spacecraft, which would allow it to travel faster than the speed of light without violating the laws of relativity. The warp bubble would be created by manipulating spacetime itself, rather than relying on a propellant.

>Gravitational Wave Propulsion: A speculative propulsion system that would use the energy generated by gravitational waves to propel a spacecraft forward. This concept is based on the idea that gravitational waves can be harnessed to create a net force on a spacecraft.

>Dark Matter Propulsion: A theoretical propulsion system that would use the hypothetical dark matter particles to create a net force on a spacecraft. This concept is based on the idea that dark matter particles could interact with normal matter in a way that would produce thrust.

Anonymous No. 16154182

>>16154135
>launch pads in ohio be like

Anonymous No. 16154184

>>16154179
Fuck off with your ai spam. Nobody reads it and you flood the general.

Anonymous No. 16154185

>>16154179
Abstain from your original drip-fed content. Everybody writes it and I drain the general.

Anonymous No. 16154187

>>16154185
Niggers tongue my anus

Anonymous No. 16154203

>>16154087
>Only reason Starship explodes is

Starship has not exploded outside of the FTS.

Anonymous No. 16154212

>>16154203
False. FTS did not work correctly on IFT-1 therefore it was actually a combination of factors therefore you are incorrect.

Anonymous No. 16154217

>>16154135
he would be pretty handsome otherwise

Anonymous No. 16154218

What's for dinner tonight fellas?

Anonymous No. 16154224

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxcjGHO9tPk
stream of LSIC
more info than just the pictures

Anonymous No. 16154232

>>16154075
No because Jeff Who lacks the mandate of heaven

Anonymous No. 16154254

>>16154218
going hungry again tonight, unfortunately.
>>16154103
raptor development was too slow, so musky fired the whole team.

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>>16152400

Anonymous No. 16154257

>>16154254
>>16154103
he didnt fire the whole team lol, just the vp of propulsion

Anonymous No. 16154279

Does /sfg/ believe that aliens have visited Earth?

Anonymous No. 16154283

>>16154279
don't think so. We did have one schizo who believed that there were fungi on mars though.

Anonymous No. 16154294

>>16154279
Aliens don't exist.

Anonymous No. 16154298

>>16154294
How do you explain the observation of transient objects in outer space on the same day that the July 19th, 1952 Washington D.C UFO sightings occurred, or the observation of an apparent satellite in orbit of Earth in 1950?

Anonymous No. 16154301

>>16154298
Schizophrenia and illusions.

Anonymous No. 16154302

>>16153989
Parabolic orbits don't exist in reality anyway because they immediately get perturbed into an elliptical or hyperbolic orbit, so you can almost just ignore them.

Also conic sections are cool and you should totally learn about them.

Anonymous No. 16154327

>>16154298
literally the flimsyest evidence for anything ever, let alone one of the most extra-ordinary claims ever made. now alien life certainly exists out there in the universe just by probability alone, but the chance of it having ever visited Earth let alone in our species lifespan is effectively zero.

Anonymous No. 16154329

>>16153125
damn so it's the same principle as a deodorant. How could they have come up with this

Anonymous No. 16154340

>>16154279

the fermi paradox

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Anonymous No. 16154344

>>16153493
both have low EROI

Anonymous No. 16154364

>>16154327
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.09035

Anonymous No. 16154366

>>16154327
>>16154364
>but the chance of it having ever visited Earth let alone in our species lifespan is effectively zero.
Baseless assertion. Could be 100% for all we know.

Anonymous No. 16154369

>>16154340
Not a real paradox; most pseud shit ever.

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Anonymous No. 16154377

STAGING

>>16154376
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Anonymous No. 16154378

>>16154369
You like to get mad when people are having fun

Anonymous No. 16154434

>>16154327
>uhm sir extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
This is not a scientific principle.

Anonymous No. 16154774

>>16154327
>now alien life certainly exists out there in the universe just by probability alone, but the chance of it having ever visited Earth let alone in our species lifespan is effectively zero.
it's possible we have some local panspermia cousins who want to observe us much as we'd want to observe any inhabited planets we could reach. automatically assuming there's no chance we've been visited is a lack of imagination. with that said, disappearing optical transients in old telescope data can be explained by far more mundane causes, including the gravitational lensing one given in the paper. i'm still not convinced that there aren't data quality issues in stuff this old too.

Anonymous No. 16155028

>>16152393
Does a space elevator put the lifted cargos in orbit? Or just elevate them with 0 tangential velocity?

Anonymous No. 16155064

>>16155028
okay so the secret here is that those two things become the same thing once you're at a certain altitude (geostationary orbit)
the problem is that this is really fucking far away

Anonymous No. 16155075

>>16155064
Ahh alright, thank you.