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Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:53:39 UTC No. 16152927
>Imagine a room completely sealed off from the outside world. This room is so carefully sealed and shielded that no instruments or signals of any kind can penetrate its walls to obtain information about what’s inside. Every so often, some lucky individual gets randomly selected to enter this room. They’re given time to investigate the room’s contents to their satisfaction, but when they leave, the only information they can take with them is their memory of what they witnessed. They can’t carry any sort of physical evidence at all.
>Most of us would agree that, if enough people went into this room and enough of them came out of it agreeing about what was inside, their joint testimony would justify the rest of us in believing that the room contained what they said it did, even in the absence of physical evidence. Now, it’s true that, if the contents of the room were quite strange—say, if its contents appeared to contradict the accepted laws of physics—we might need a particularly high number of testimonies from particularly well-qualified investigators to convince us that the room’s contents were indeed as strange as reported.
>But if enough reliable observers came away convinced that the room’s contents contravened the accepted laws of physics, then we would be justified in relying on their testimony and adopting their belief about the room’s contents as our own.
What would it take for you personally to believe that some sort of afterlife exists?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:56:33 UTC No. 16152928
There is an afterlife, it's called life, the cycle of decay and reconstitution is eternal, you can close your eyes, but only for a moment, after which a consciousness arises again
Cult of Passion at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:58:55 UTC No. 16152930
>>16152927
>afterlife
NowLife.
The Judgement is of Laws and Means beyond your comprehension of reality so leave that hypothosis out of it (unless youre one niche kind of person who thats the very thing they are, self referential and repeatable point of certainty.)
I have found that an emphasis on "after" leads the subconscious to rest in false resting points.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 15:18:11 UTC No. 16153253
>>16152927
You believe in an afterlife because you really want it to be true. Huge bias here.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 16:22:04 UTC No. 16153310
>>16152927
We could see inside with neutrinos or gravitational waves or something. If it blocks neutrinos like it's already demonstrating new physics. You could also just leave the door open.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 16:29:53 UTC No. 16153313
>>16152927
>Now, it’s true that, if the contents of the room were quite strange—say, if its contents appeared to contradict the accepted laws of physics—we might need a particularly high number of testimonies from particularly well-qualified investigators to convince us that the room’s contents were indeed as strange as reported.
what if what they see in there implants fake memories or misrepresents what they observe? specifically to dupe them?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:30:15 UTC No. 16153398
>>16153253
>because you really want it to be true
You've made this assumption of OP with zero facts.
(YOU) want it to be true because it's an easy argument to make against OP. However in doing so you have perfectly demonstrated truthfully, and quite ironically, exactly what confirmation bias is.
>>16152927
I like this metaphor, it describes quite simply the epistemological problem of materialism. If I may add a little of my own thoughts and change one thing, it may unnecessarily complicate the metaphor, but it'd say that we're inside this room 24/7 of our lives we never actually leave. The room has bright lights shining in, giving us all the physical data of our physical senses. This informative light is so bright it blinds us or drowns out all other visible light that may be too dim for us too see. When the "light of our lives" dims a little, we're able to adjust and see all else that surrounds us at all times. Of course dying may not be the only way to catch a glimpse
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:53:44 UTC No. 16153444
>clear as day a different shade, we all saw the same thing
one thing that everybody shares, apart from experience, is body's limitations. just because many people are reporting the same thing doesn't mean it's about the event as it's about that other thing they all share, same form.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:56:09 UTC No. 16153454
>>16153398
There’s zero facts that point to a human wanting to live on past death? Dishonest, moron.