Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:08:21 UTC No. 16163002

You don't perceive time, if you close your eyes and your ears it is completely impossible for you to tell what "time" it is, it's just an abstract construct derived from relating events with eachother

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:14:06 UTC No. 16163011

Memory is responsible for this useless abstract construct.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:18:34 UTC No. 16163018

>>16163002
totally wrong. you are confusing the way human keep time and the arrow of time.
>>16163011
that sounds stupid and circular. because what you are implying is memory running in a single direction, implying the existence of the arrow of time perceived by the brain in the first place.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:30:08 UTC No. 16163039

>>16163018
Memory is used to keep track of events and used to construct a social identity commonly called "ego". Ego is a collection of ideas and sensations the brain has perceived in the world. This collection of ideas synchronizes with society, hence social identity. So we are all perceiving time in the same way because we all mistake our identities for ideas and sensations that have been singled out from the world.

In reality, there is no time and no ego. These are false constructs based on arbitrary attachments to ideas and sensations.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:31:05 UTC No. 16163042

>>16162991
Time is like a rapist. He does not move away from you. He moves toward you. He moves with you. He rapes.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:34:29 UTC No. 16163051

>>16163039
Sounds like you're mixing up time (progression of reality) with time keeping (clocks and calendars and events etc.). If there were no time then the universe would still be in the state of the primeval atom, there would have been no big bang, because nothing would ever move or ever happen

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:35:21 UTC No. 16163053

>>16163039
go back to /lit/ please? don't dilute my thread
there are so many thing wrong with what you said I don't want to desconstruct and reply to your useless comment.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:42:58 UTC No. 16163064

>>16163051
Reality does not have time. The only time is now and the only identity is God.

>time (progression of reality) with time keeping (clocks and calendars and events etc.)
time keeping (clocks and calendars and events etc.) *is* the only way time exists. Also the brain "perceives" an illusion of time but this is only a false construct. Time does not exist in the universe and reality does not "progress". The entropy of the entire universe is always in equilibrium.

>nothing would ever move or ever happen
That's funny you say that because the true nature of existence is simply Being. The universe unfolds around you while you do nothing and stay absolutely still.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:43:58 UTC No. 16163065

>>16163064
fuck off Cult of Passion and kys

Eos !!7Nk2/yfbs86 at Mon, 6 May 2024 22:59:36 UTC No. 16163097

>>16163064
You have it backward. Time does exist in the universe, the thing that doesn't is the concept of a "present time" or now. Our concept of time is warped by the mind's desire to view itself as the objective observer of the universe.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 23:06:46 UTC No. 16163121

>>16163097
As an analogy, the rest frame is used because it makes the most sense, not because it's objective.

So, you're right, "now" doesn't really exist either. But it's helpful to think in terms of an instantaneous frame instead of a socially constructed "timeline".

Eos !!7Nk2/yfbs86 at Mon, 6 May 2024 23:45:19 UTC No. 16163173

>>16163121
Generally, I agree with what you have written here but I do think that viewing time as a dimension through which matter and energy exists is still a useful perspective.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 00:28:22 UTC No. 16163226

>>16162991
Your assumption that consciousness is created by the brain is just that, an assumption.
Now if you want to get technical, your perception of time is dependent of your memory which have a direction.

If you get in states where you do not have memory time gets funky.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 00:35:46 UTC No. 16163245

>>16163018
>the arrow of time.
No such thing, stop smoking crack

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 00:49:54 UTC No. 16163265

>>16163226
If you bump your head and become unconscious (i.e. without consciousness), doesn't that imply your consciousness is somewhere inside your head?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 00:56:03 UTC No. 16163278

>>16162991
Layering. The "slow" brain layers encompass the "fast" ones. This makes for layered interface that allows the experience of one layer reference the other. Perception requires relativity.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 01:01:05 UTC No. 16163284

>>16162991
cat ears on side is the superior and, sadly, criminally underutilized choice

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 01:08:12 UTC No. 16163290

>>16162991
You think you are generating reality not simply existing within it? Shoo first child.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 01:16:57 UTC No. 16163302

>>16162991
even if enabled by matter we'd still be in EM field I suppose? we'd be "something" having to do with the electric activity.
>You don't perceive time, if you close your eyes and your ears it is completely impossible for you to tell what "time" it is
that's not true. happened way too many times to "sense" when some timer is just about to run out, or wake literally seconds before alarm goes off. we do have some internal timer or at least can develop one.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 01:22:25 UTC No. 16163311

>>16163284
Cat ears on the side is just a particularly hairy elf.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 02:50:50 UTC No. 16163409

>>16163265
Yes but an alternative explanation is that your brain is just an antenna that receives your consciousness from somewhere else.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 02:54:05 UTC No. 16163410

>>16163409
how is complete personality change explained by it? can certain bumps to the head change consciousness channel? also how does it explain DID, does it randomly tune to one of the other consciousnesses manifesting?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 03:23:44 UTC No. 16163441

>>16163410
Altering the antenna alters the fidelity of the connection to your consciousness.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 03:25:12 UTC No. 16163443

>>16163441
so could I theoretically tune your brain to someone who died?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 03:49:01 UTC No. 16163476

>>16163443
Maybe, but how would you actually do that? Plus this brain is mine you can’t have it.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 04:01:24 UTC No. 16163494

>>16163476
>but how would you actually do that
fuck you asking me for? weren't you the expert in the whole brain antenna theory?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 04:06:35 UTC No. 16163501

>>16163494
Hey I’m a chad theorist, not a lab weenie.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 05:30:33 UTC No. 16163603

>>16162991
Physics is completely fake. There waves, thresholds, and noise. When the wave and noise sum up to reach the threshold of something happening, it happens. This gives the illusion of particles.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 05:36:59 UTC No. 16163605

>>16163311
Exactly, it’s perfect

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 09:19:36 UTC No. 16163723

>>16162991
Time is complete intelligence that is rendering the reality through entity of matter (air, water and earth) by soul energy that has diffrrent spectrums that are related to realm of living and realm of dead that operates through bodies as magic wands and realm of body has a parallel dimension of reflective and shadows of memory.

Time (The God) as BigMind that is rendering reality and time as measurement of duration (its doppleganger of memory) are different.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 10:36:51 UTC No. 16163767

>>16163265
I'd argue you don't become unconscious but just stop recording memory.

I don't belive the brain is an antenna to consciousness, i think consciousness is fundamental and everything is made out of it including the brain or what you see as a brain when you look at it.

Physicalism is doomed and won't ever be able to explain their so called "hard problem".

Idealism has no such problem and can also explain physics.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 11:04:53 UTC No. 16163795

>>16162991
time is just entropy