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Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 16:43:04 UTC No. 16172507
>Science still hasn't discovered what wavelength correspond to Magenta and White
>People still believe that colors are absolutely related to wavelengths
When will we get out of this phase?
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 16:44:29 UTC No. 16172511
>>16172507
you forgot to add, black is not a color, because it is the absence of any color
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 16:49:51 UTC No. 16172516
>>16172507
>Science still hasn't discovered what wavelength correspond to Magenta and White
The combined wavelengths of base wavelengths? They still behave as a singular wave and the varying wavelength can be mapped as a wavefunction of the change of the oscillation through time, as to where the association with a specific colour comes from, and why it is qualitatively expressed as it is, is a different question entirely.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 16:52:07 UTC No. 16172518
>>16172516
define "base wavelength"
yellow is perceived as a mix of red and green light, yet do we still define it as a "singular wave"?
what make it any different from magenta at all?
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 17:05:03 UTC No. 16172536
>>16172511
black lights matter
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 17:23:55 UTC No. 16172549
>>16172518
Doesn't matter if it's a constituent wave or if the base wavelengths are made from any wavelengths, it's the specific combination of electromagnetic oscillations which elicits the reaction, more specifically the rate of energy flow in a certain pattern is what elicits the reaction as all electromagnetic radiation is the same thing just dilated/contracted such that the energy transfer rate is increased/reduced, so colour perception is more accurately related to the energy transfer rate per unit of time
Barkon at Sun, 12 May 2024 17:30:54 UTC No. 16172553
Magneta is pure wavelength
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 17:53:43 UTC No. 16172578
White and magenta both can only be displayed through a combination of wavelengths.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 18:22:40 UTC No. 16172613
>>16172507
>>16172518
What we interpret as white light is any light consisting of a near-uniform superposition of visible wavelengths. The sun's emitted spectrum is not uniform, but when you factor in Rayleigh scattering and absorption lines in the atmosphere, the intensity distribution of the incident spectrum from the Sun (at least the part our eyes our sensitive to) flattens out pretty significantly.
We have three types of retinal cones that correspond to peak absorptions of about 420, 530, and 560 nm (all with different standard deviations in absorption). We interpret color based on relative difference in the absorbed light from the different cones: The bigger the difference, the more saturated the particular color our brain interprets, and the smaller the difference the more desaturated the color. So white light is just what we interpret when the distinction in intensity across the absorbed bands of wavelengths is negligible.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 18:44:37 UTC No. 16172642
>>16172507
>OP showing off the colors for his feather boa again
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 22:08:42 UTC No. 16172922
>>16172507
color of love and color of benevolence
they're both special so they were made that way to highlight that
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 22:30:01 UTC No. 16172948
>>16172507
>People still believe that colors are absolutely related to wavelengths
They are absolutely related to wavelengths. A color is a distribution over wavelengths, and the distributions corresponding to magenta and white are very well understood.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 22:49:52 UTC No. 16172972
>>16172507
The schizopost is stale as fuck, fuck off.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 22:58:27 UTC No. 16172981
>>16172613
Thanks for effortpost
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 23:16:49 UTC No. 16172995
>>16172511
Black is the color the mind uses to represent the absence of photons hitting the eyes. Thus, color is in the mind, not in the world.
The only people who are confused by color are people who still believe in naive realism.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 23:18:47 UTC No. 16173000
>>16172995
black is not a color idiot, what are you talking about? i didnt understand jackshit of what you were saying with that naive realism
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 23:21:08 UTC No. 16173002
>>16173000
>i didnt understand jackshit of what you were saying with that naive realism
Take that as a sign that you're out of your depth.
Anonymous at Sun, 12 May 2024 23:27:52 UTC No. 16173006
>>16172518
We see magenta when our red and blue cones respond simultaneously. However there is no "simple" wavelength that will do so, only combinations of multiple waves (see the low overlap of S and L cones). The same is not true of yellow, which as you mention is caused by responses in red and green, M and L cones. But because of the overlap photons with only specific wavelengths (~570-590 nm) such as those emitted by lasers, will stimulate both of those cones so we will perceive the color yellow.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:12:56 UTC No. 16173058
>>16173006
magenta is because your receptors are too pussy to see there are more types of brown and it's a shade of diminished spectra peaking before the high end
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 04:59:50 UTC No. 16173328
>>16172507
>durr chords can't be isolated to single wavelengths, therefore sound isn't related to pressure waves.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:17:15 UTC No. 16173355
>>16172995
>representing a sequence of events from right to left
Disregarded, did not read. I don't value the opinions of people too stupid to understand that all sequences should be represented from left to right when communicating in English.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 08:39:40 UTC No. 16173550
>>16172507
buy a spectrometer instead of shitposting this board over and over
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 09:47:32 UTC No. 16173593
>>16172507
>>People still believe that colors are absolutely related to wavelengths
What else would it be you fucking faggot. Do you randomly see magenta out of fucking nowhere? No? Then its your retarted brain interpreting signals that it is recieving. Particular wavelenghts or some combination of them, certain interactions of photons, doesn't matter, its basically the same thing. If producers of the screens that we look at your retarted picture at knew how to make them show magenta, then guess what, magenta isn't some kind of unsolved mystery.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:03:29 UTC No. 16173664
>>16173593
>This amount of sperging
Looks like you felt called out by this thread, it takes one to know one.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:36:28 UTC No. 16173794
>>16173593
There is a difference between colors being caused by wavelengths and wavelengths BEING color. That's the key question.
This is really a philosophical discussion, which is why it goes by so many stem bro's heads.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:39:37 UTC No. 16173799
>>16173006
equations exist for superposition of waves though. should be able to write some composite wavelength of the superposition of two waves
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 15:26:56 UTC No. 16174032
Magenta light didn't exist before the RGB system was created
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 20:04:40 UTC No. 16174413
>>16174032
True
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 23:48:18 UTC No. 16174737
>>16173799
Sure, but that's the difference between magenta/white and yellow/cyan. The latter don't require that composition, while the former do.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 00:16:52 UTC No. 16174758
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 03:45:20 UTC No. 16174940
>>16174737
>>16174413
samefag
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 06:26:35 UTC No. 16175112
>>16174758
There is no magenta light here, only pigment
>>16174940
Retard schizo
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 11:34:28 UTC No. 16175341
>>16175112
The only way you can see it is through light bouncing off it. That's how the camera which took the photo saw it, too.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 11:51:19 UTC No. 16175352
>>16174737
There's something wrong about it
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 12:14:39 UTC No. 16175374
>>16172507
Honestly the science behind purple is absolutely fascinating. The blend of low/high wavelengths to create a continuous colour wheel is the closest evidence I've seen to intelligent design.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:17:20 UTC No. 16175577
>>16175374
Magenta is the color of love, you'd bet that God would give a special quality to that color.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 19:51:19 UTC No. 16175946
>>16172507
Computers have always used 3 numbers to represent colors.
That should tell you that 1 number cannot do it (easily, without some advanced math fuckery) otherwise programmers would not waste the additional memory and complexity.
Wavelength is 1 number.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 19:55:40 UTC No. 16175951
among the six colors that a computer's rgb produces (red, yellow, green, cyan, blue, magenta), magenta is the only one whose FF are separate from each other (FF00FF)
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 11:53:46 UTC No. 16176945
>>16175951
That is almost as insightful as pointing out that of all the words you used in your post, "is" is the only two letter word.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 12:56:49 UTC No. 16176990
>>16175951
Woah, it's a hole in the middle
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 13:17:21 UTC No. 16177006
>>16172507
Sure they have. It's the interference pattern between 700nm and 400nm light.
Anonynous at Wed, 15 May 2024 13:31:16 UTC No. 16177018
>>16173355
Filtered retard. It didn't even occur to me.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 14:20:32 UTC No. 16177055
>>16174737
Probably two color receptors vs three color receptors being excited?
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 15:11:23 UTC No. 16177096
color is a mental construct. light sources just excite different part of the mental state related to color. anyone who tell you otherwise is an NPC.
try to do a DMT trip and tell me that light creates colors.
lol, lmao even.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 15:51:18 UTC No. 16177124
>>16172507
Hue color and temperature are different.
Hue can be a psychiatric definition of color, color is the definition of either temperature or Hue, temperature is in related to the spectral decomposition of black body radiation. Color is seen as the composition of various spectra, and Hue therefore is the qualitative scattering of light which gives those colors
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 17:41:56 UTC No. 16177211
>>16177124
Red is for hot temperature
Green is for temperate temperature
Blue is for cold temperature
So what is Magenta then?
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 17:53:20 UTC No. 16177223
>>16177211
>Red is for hot temperature
>Blue is for cold temperature
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 17:57:24 UTC No. 16177227
>>16177211
Cot temperature. Or hold temperature if you prefer.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 10:33:25 UTC No. 16178186
>>16172507
Never
Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 21:08:06 UTC No. 16178920
Apparently not a lot of animals are capable of seeing the color Red, as they mostly specialize in seeing UV colors instead
Nature has deemed Red not so important to be seen, for some reason
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 00:48:35 UTC No. 16179143
>>16178920
>Nature has deemed Red not so important to be seen, for some reason
If you are a deer, moving at dusk/dawn mostlly, why would you care about red. You don't really eat anything red.
UV is highest at dusk/dawn so it would make sense for most animals that utilize that to specialize in that light. For predators too.
There is also a trade off for light sensitivity and seeing color. Movement detection in low light crucial compared to red.
That said, primates that pick berries and/or watch for red fertile asses to fuck would care about red....