Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:53:01 UTC No. 16173095

bullshit

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:53:50 UTC No. 16173096

>>16173095
t. shill from the meat industry

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:57:06 UTC No. 16173100

>>16173093
No thanks, I prefer hamburgers.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:57:44 UTC No. 16173103

Here's a little experiment YOU can do at home (with parental supervision).
1.Go outside
2.Survive on plants alone for 3 years
3.(Hard mode) No insects.
4.(Extreme mode) Above 40 degrees Latitude

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:58:09 UTC No. 16173104

>>16173093
>cavemen
great Science you have there

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:00:11 UTC No. 16173107

Anthropology is a fake science that always just justifies prevailing sociology trends. In the Soviet Union, they taught that cavemen were communists. 30 years ago, cavemen were hypermasculine hunters and women were gathers. Now, they tell us women and men both shared all the work equally and that homosexuality and transgenders were common.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:00:49 UTC No. 16173108

>>16173093
It would be more accurate to compare it Mediterranean diet instead of vegan diet.
Eat your veggies anons

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:01:36 UTC No. 16173111

Why do all these modern studies ignore the behaviors of tribal societal in modern times or in recent times (past few hundred years) where detailed records of their behavior exist?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:05:56 UTC No. 16173116

It's pretty obvithumans were built to eat fish, fruit, and nuts. It's too bad nuts taste like shit and red meat is delicious.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:53:11 UTC No. 16173171

>mostly
>not natural

dummy

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:58:11 UTC No. 16173187

>>16173093
Key word mostly. They would go long stretches with no meat than eat a whole mammoth. Vegans get bent.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 02:01:36 UTC No. 16173191

>>16173107
Don't forget that Native American tribes had dick-cut-off men who pretended to be women that were apex spiritual leaders everyone looked up to for support.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 02:14:21 UTC No. 16173201

>>16173111
Because those chudfax are irrelevant you fucking white male

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 03:09:27 UTC No. 16173243

>>16173093
They are wrong.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 03:19:03 UTC No. 16173248

>>16173093
>Popsci articles once again
As with modern humans it probably varied wildly depending on season, climate, location, culture, etc

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 03:30:32 UTC No. 16173261

>>16173093
Bugs are vegan

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 03:32:28 UTC No. 16173264

>>16173093

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 03:53:05 UTC No. 16173277

>>16173093
cavemen were also racist, can we be racist again?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 04:08:31 UTC No. 16173290

>study says something i don't like
:(
>study says something i like
=O

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 04:19:34 UTC No. 16173299

>>16173093
Take the aquatic ape pill, we were born to eat fish.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 04:50:36 UTC No. 16173319

>>16173108
Vegetables aren't real, its just a marketing term invented so shills like you could be all like "make sure to eat your bitter, pesticide filled, round-up ready, petroleum necessitating, monsanto gmo seed grown veggies."

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:02:52 UTC No. 16173332

>>16173093
>mostly
They were called hunters and gatherers for a reason. Meat was like a delicate thing to procure due to the amount of labor and sacrifices it took to get some. So the study isn’t exactly wrong about it, but it’s not like they ate fruits and vegetables because they want to.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:19:39 UTC No. 16173361

>>16173103
You'd get hazelnuts, walnuts, beechnuts and acorns as the basic staple, then you could add anything else there is.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:24:41 UTC No. 16173367

ITT:
>>16173290

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:27:27 UTC No. 16173370

In the future everything published between 2010 and whenever this ends is going to be considered trash.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:44:05 UTC No. 16173381

>>16173370
Sure. Everyone who puts in the work and presents their findings https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PBOK_ALWYS_DEEPLINK&utm_content=textlink&utm_term=PID100062364&CJEVENT=b4f850db10eb11ef82b45d7a0a18ba74 is wrong, because you don't like the findings. Meanwhile you don't put in any work, present no argument, you only have to disagree. Right ?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 05:53:25 UTC No. 16173391

>>16173093
Why would I care what's "natural"? Eating meat is natural because I like it. If those cavemen were so healthy, why are they dead, huh?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 07:48:22 UTC No. 16173511

>>16173391
No one implied (you) care about what is 'natural'. OP stated it was 'natural'.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:18:45 UTC No. 16173610

>>16173093
>groundbreaking
yep, that's how we do archeology
>new
decades old science
fun fact, your neolithic ancestors had mad jaw gains from literally grinding grains with their teeth.
+le chad jaw
-teeth are dust by 20
so go treat yourself to some raw wheat paleol bro

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:22:29 UTC No. 16173612

wasnt there some bullshit study that said women were ACTUALLY the real hunters that then of course was debunked?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:26:00 UTC No. 16173616

>>16173093
What this means is that there were stretches of time when meat wasn't available, and neither were "animal products" because agriculture hadn't been invented yet. I think the pop-sci framing of "vegan" implies there was a conscious, ideologically motivated choice behind it.
But yes this common-sense conclusion is quite a blow to the pseuds who are desperate to believe that our "natural" diet is a slab of raw meat every day.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:26:03 UTC No. 16173617

>>16173093
raging vegans
lol

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:27:15 UTC No. 16173620

>>16173612
It's the way of nature. Just look at lions!

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:53:32 UTC No. 16173649

>>16173612
How does this relate ?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:57:22 UTC No. 16173654

>>16173093
then why did they paint their caves with stick figures killing large animals?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 10:58:01 UTC No. 16173656

>>16173649
The article resembles other biased, unscientific opinion pieces
in particular, the way it touches on a controversial topic, leads with "scientists find" but isn't even dated, and puts share links before the content- and the way it's doing its lap around the world posted as an image instead of a link. It smells. It has bad physiognomy

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:00:12 UTC No. 16173659

>>16173107
That's history in general.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:08:20 UTC No. 16173673

>>16173361
what made you write this post and think it was worth anyone's time to read? kill yourself

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:21:04 UTC No. 16173694

>>16173649
It's "woke", you see.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:22:35 UTC No. 16173695

Are there any monkeys or apes with a predominantly carnivorous diet?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:26:34 UTC No. 16173701

>>16173695
no, that mean humans should also based their diet on fruits, barks and insects

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:35:41 UTC No. 16173712

>>16173701
you should stop wearing clothes because monkeys or apes don't do that.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:36:56 UTC No. 16173714

>>16173712
exaclty

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:54:20 UTC No. 16173730

>>16173103
Obviously, you, who has never eaten anything other than slopburgers and slopmeatballs everyday would start ro deplete the local wildlife

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:55:59 UTC No. 16173734

>>16173701
>>16173712
The appeal to nature is a fallacy either way, of course. But in terms of what we could expect primitive man to eat, the diet of apes seems like a close analogue, wouldn't you agree?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 11:59:50 UTC No. 16173745

>>16173734
Not really, because we already have archaeological evidence and biological evidence on what primitive humans ate.
(primitive man: stop being misogynistic)

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:01:36 UTC No. 16173748

>>16173734
The diets of chimps and apes are quite different. Which one should we go with?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:02:53 UTC No. 16173752

>>16173734
No because humans and chimps diverged 6 million years ago and we came down from the trees 3 million years ago and have been hunting and eating meat ever since. That's 120,000 generations, assuming a generation is 25 years.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:03:52 UTC No. 16173753

>>16173745
I'm only talking about what could be expected before considering the evidence. If you have some evidence you'd like to submit, be my guest.

>>16173748
Pick whichever you think proves your point best and tell me the share that meat makes up of their diet.

>>16173752
>have been hunting and eating meat ever since
Begging the question.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:10:57 UTC No. 16173759

>>16173745
>>16173753
The diet of early humans and their archaeological and biological analysis is standard knowledge and basic science. This is textbook material what humans ate as they evolved. You're feigning ignorance in bad faith or you're lacking in basic assumed knowledge required for serious scientific debate.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:13:12 UTC No. 16173761

the only thing humanity can learn from history is that humanity doesnt learn from history

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:13:14 UTC No. 16173762

>>16173673
Did you reply to a wrong post, or what the hell do you mean?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:16:14 UTC No. 16173767

>>16173762
nta but
>hazelnuts, walnuts, beechnuts and acorns as the basic staple
is a retarded statement

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:19:20 UTC No. 16173769

>>16173093
yes, and it's not the first study showing this.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:21:03 UTC No. 16173771

>>16173103
>3.(Hard mode) No insects.
>4.(Extreme mode) Above 40 degrees Latitude
the study says "mostly plants", so minimal animal protein was included in the diet.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:22:04 UTC No. 16173772

>>16173104
>great Science you have there
hey, at least the anon reads, don't discourage him.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:22:43 UTC No. 16173774

>>16173771
and what plants were those "mostly plants"?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:23:05 UTC No. 16173775

>>16173361
I read your post, thank you anon.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:25:00 UTC No. 16173777

>>16173771
>the study says "mostly plants", so minimal animal protein was included in the diet.
so it's the same type of diet as any long term vegan eats
they all cheat and eat some animal foods in order to not die
or rather they call it a "plant based" diet

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:25:06 UTC No. 16173779

>>16173093
yes, we know better now

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:26:07 UTC No. 16173780

>>16173774
>and what plants were those "mostly plants"?
You're requesting info that I do not have, the anon did not tell us, and maybe the article itself does not say it.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:26:14 UTC No. 16173781

>>16173769
plants arent food to humans

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:27:46 UTC No. 16173782

>>16173780
>ok so caveman diet was plant based but we don't know what plants they ate but trust us it was plant based
wow great science

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:28:06 UTC No. 16173783

>>16173777
>they all cheat and eat some animal foods in order to not die
not true, strict vegans do not eat any animal products, but they have to take B12 supplements, or eat that one type of algae that has B12, I forget now... chlorella? Spirulina? one of those.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:29:07 UTC No. 16173784

>>16173782
>wow great science
I'm just telling you the facts, I haven't even read the supposed article the OP refers to.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:30:50 UTC No. 16173785

>>16173779
ah the trusted academic source of [email protected]

no need to cite anything

inb4 muh common knowledge

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:31:32 UTC No. 16173786

>>16173781
>plants arent food to humans
sorry, I'm not engaging with a 13 year old

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:32:33 UTC No. 16173789

>>16173785
is it wrong?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:34:06 UTC No. 16173791

>>16173779
>conveniently forgets stomach acidity

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:36:49 UTC No. 16173796

>>16173759
I'm just an interested lay person Kramering into the thread. You're ascribing ulterior motives to me which to me seems to suggest that you're quite emotionally invested in this for some reason.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:37:50 UTC No. 16173797

This board is really obsessed with vegans for some reason. Can't stop bringing them up.
Ironic, considering the stereotype.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:39:16 UTC No. 16173798

>>16173779
Time spent eating

Humans
>1-1.5 hours every day
Tigers
>Once every week
Lions
>Once every 4 days to two weeks
Horses
>16-18 hours every day
Chimpanzees
>7 hours every day (43-55% waking hours)

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:40:20 UTC No. 16173800

>>16173796
>>16173797
Project more vegan

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:41:55 UTC No. 16173801

>>16173800
Case in point: I'm not vegan
Had some Korean bbq chicken just the other day

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:42:16 UTC No. 16173802

>>16173791
if that's humans on a modern grain and meat-based, or heavy on the animal protein diet, sure, I believe your chart. Can you find an equivalent chart for different types of diets?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:44:17 UTC No. 16173804

>>16173802
sure let me google that for you sir

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:45:07 UTC No. 16173807

>>16173801
We can claim whatever we want on the internet anon.
Now go back to your reddit and onions lattes.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:46:41 UTC No. 16173809

>>16173796
I know, people put far too much emotion into these conversations. Their diet is part of their identity and those intolerant enough to other people's preferred dietary choices feel a need to defend it.
I love meat too, I can't feel well inside without my once-per-week huge steak and french fries fix, but I'm not going to cry about veggies and what not, or start insulting people, or take offense as the science shows us we had some serious wrong assumptions about what we have been eating all these past decades. I learn as we find out, and I adjust how I can.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:50:46 UTC No. 16173812

>>16173809
We're omnivores here anon. Sorry to disappoint your expectations. :)

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:52:29 UTC No. 16173813

>>16173093
Fuck off vegan SCUM

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:52:30 UTC No. 16173814

>>16173807
Well, yes, I can easily claim I'm not vegan, because there's no conclusive evidence either way. Your word against mine.
However, you can't claim not to be obsessed with vegans, because your behaviour clearly shows otherwise.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:54:11 UTC No. 16173816

>>16173804
I understand, I too don't have much time myself, but the internet is full of charts and diagrams like these. I don't know exactly how accurate this one is in particular, I wouldn't put too much faith on it, but it is well know that what you eat affects your stomach acid production, any doctor will tell you that basic fact, so it is only obvious that if you eat a salad with minimal dressing is different from eating hot dogs, steaks, and burgers (which I fukken love to eat).

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:55:21 UTC No. 16173818

>>16173814
There's no obsession with vegans when the headline topic says in bold "mostly vegan diet". You're just going off topic anon.
If you're not vegan just say you're not and move on.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:55:33 UTC No. 16173820

>>16173812
>We're omnivores here anon. Sorry to disappoint your expectations. :)
You didn't disappoint! :)
I'm an omnivore myself, just not every day, about one day per week.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:56:24 UTC No. 16173822

>>16173816
>it is well know that what you eat affects your stomach acid production
is it really?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:56:34 UTC No. 16173823

>>16173813
Dude, it's a talk about food, take it easy.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 12:58:09 UTC No. 16173824

>>16173822
>is it really?
Yes. People with acid reflux have to be particularly careful with foods that stimulate acid production, like tomatoes, garlic, or strong spices. I myself I'm very sensitive, I have to mind that for dinner or I know I won't be able to sleep, such is the heartburn.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:05:13 UTC No. 16173836

>>16173818
>There's no obsession with vegans when the headline topic says in bold "mostly vegan diet".
Yes, this thread and how many others? What did you think I was getting at?
>You're just going off topic anon.
I don't see how I am. You decided to make this personal with your baseless speculation and blatant projection, but I was talking about the diet of primitive humans up until that point.
>If you're not vegan just say you're not
I did. One of us couldn't move on.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:07:11 UTC No. 16173839

>>16173836
Anon, stop getting offended at online posts.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:08:33 UTC No. 16173844

>>16173839
>baseless speculation and blatant projection

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:11:12 UTC No. 16173849

>>16173789
you should mail sayaman and ask him if its wrong

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:14:37 UTC No. 16173855

>>16173824
just because you produce more acid (which I doubt what whatever) doesn't mean it is more acidic

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:24:45 UTC No. 16173871

>>16173855
Exactly, and so therefore I was hoping we could find a chart specifically comparing stomach acidity depending on diet.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 13:25:56 UTC No. 16173872

>>16173849
I'm not a biologist, so I wouldn't know if that infographic is wrong, so therefore I asked you.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 15:50:55 UTC No. 16174060

>>16173872
well I would check the sources of the infographics as any other scientist without domain knowledge would, IF THERE WERE ANY

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 15:52:57 UTC No. 16174068

>>16174060
forgot pic

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 16:10:05 UTC No. 16174084

>>16174060
I agree, it should have references. I was hoping a real biologist would jump in and help, since, though I'm not a biologist, I am a scientist and I did study some biology in college. That infographic doesn't seem to say anything blatantly wrong as far as my knowledge goes, but expertise would be welcomed.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 16:16:18 UTC No. 16174093

>>16173656
Instead of pointing out presumed similarities that, in your mind, would make this article 'unscientific' and 'biased' by association, you surely can provide an argument that demonstrates how THIS particular article is the above. I'll post the link again:
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fs41559-024-02382-z%3Futm_medium%3Daffiliate%26amp%3Butm_source%3Dcommission_junction%26amp%3Butm_campaign%3DCONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PBOK_ALWYS_DEEPLINK%26amp%3Butm_content%3Dtextlink%26amp%3Butm_term%3DPID100062364%26amp%3BCJEVENT%3Db4f850db10eb11ef82b45d7a0a18ba74

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 16:45:33 UTC No. 16174129

>>16173107
gayvemen

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 17:36:38 UTC No. 16174182

>>16173093
The study (helpfully linked here >>16173381) doesn't say that. It relates a combination of changes that are environmentally linked to the adoption of more locally sourced plants for nutrition as part of a gradual adoption of a sedentary lifestyle for a specific archaeological site in Morocco. This is completely rational, given that usage of available resources to survive is sensible, especially in a somewhat arid climate. More importantly, this also doesn't suggest that they ate a vegan diet — the standards of journalism being literal gutter-trash is the obvious culprit here. According to the study, "Our TLS estimations for Taforalt based on δ15Nbulkof +4.2‰ and +2.5‰ could therefore suggest a plant food intake of about 50% in the Taforalt human diets." Make of that what you will.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 17:37:48 UTC No. 16174187

>>16174084
I agree it doesnt sound wrong, all the more reason to be sceptical about missing sources. its honestly the first time I read that humans are frugivores and frugivores in general ngl. I didnt think thered be such a huge difference between herbi and frugivores.

I have never felt that humans are made to eat fruit primarily.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 18:30:20 UTC No. 16174279

>>16174187
you'll enjoy this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 18:31:23 UTC No. 16174282

>>16174279
if we listened to women we'd still be apes

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 18:48:54 UTC No. 16174318

>>16174282
get your head out of your ass, son

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 18:51:34 UTC No. 16174321

>>16174282
>we'd still be apes
he doesn't know we're apes

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 20:26:38 UTC No. 16174446

If you actually read the paper, it says "A tribe" was found to have had a mostly vegan diet. Not that all tribes of that time were, just this one. Part of the way they knew they were mostly vegan is their teeth were full of cavities which is unusual for humans of that period.
So yes, it has been proven that at one point in time that there was a tribe that was vegan, they had terrible teeth, and they died out. Somehow this means that modern humans should become vegans.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 20:41:30 UTC No. 16174470

>>16173093
Is this possibly that tribe that was found to have subsisted on raw acorns?
The ones with absolutely fucked up jaws and teeth.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 20:58:30 UTC No. 16174486

Thread posted on /sci/, it takes twenty hours before someone reads the actual paper and points out the misleading headline.
Thread posted on /ck/, it takes thirty-one minutes before someone reads the actual paper and points out the misleading headline.
Bravo /sci/, bravo!

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 21:39:04 UTC No. 16174584

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:03:35 UTC No. 16174614

>>16173816
>grapefruit limes lemons
>alkaline
How retarded do you need to be to believe that?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:27:24 UTC No. 16174633

>>16173093
no scientists didnt find any caveman, or a cave, i dont trust confirmed scammers (covid19)
proof or gtfo

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:31:29 UTC No. 16174638

>>16173093
>Scientists find some bullshit that fits the current anti-meat propaganda.
Great. Because in the past, scientists found, that human teeth, stomach, and intestines are optimized for meat consumption.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:34:28 UTC No. 16174644

>>16173108
Friendly reminder that modern hunter gather societies like the Hadza eat ZERO vegetables, simply because they literally don't exist for them. They consume meats, a lot of honey, and any fruits they can forage like berries. Vegetables are a modern luxury that taste like shit and have nearly zero nutritional value as far as macros are concerned.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:47:08 UTC No. 16174658

>>16174644
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350623/
interdasting. so they have tubers available, which is, in any given season, less than 25% of the biomass they return home with to eat. men and women in the hadza also ranked tubers as their least preferred food, opting instead for honey, baobab, berries and meat. so hunter gathers really only ate veggies as a last resort. as you said because they lacked nutritionally content, and likely as a consequence weren't preferred. vegans eternally btfo

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:49:15 UTC No. 16174663

>>16174658
You can take my potatoes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 23:01:46 UTC No. 16174685

>>16174663
leave them in the sun for a day before eating and your wish shall be granted

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 23:14:29 UTC No. 16174692

>>16174644
The device youre using to post is modern luxury and didn't exist for the majority of human history. No co-evolution took place.
>Humans aren't made for internet.
>Internets must be bad.
>Netizens btfo.
Great thinking there chap.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 23:23:38 UTC No. 16174704

>>16174692
yes

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 23:33:57 UTC No. 16174719

>>16174692
You're learning. The Internet has atomized and destroyed human social cohesion. I don't even know who the fuck you are, couldn't care less if you were hit by a bus tomorrow, and yet we're socially connecting. The human brain didn't evolve to build connections it doesn't give a fuck about.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:58:26 UTC No. 16174908

>>16173816

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 05:19:49 UTC No. 16175019

>>16173093
This is a shit tier scientific study, reported by an even shittier pop journalist. I could go through it, but I think I'll just go eat my steak dinner instead with some cheese after.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 06:03:58 UTC No. 16175083

>>16174614
>How retarded do you need to be to believe that?
I didn't, if you read what I wrote. I specifically said I wish to find more and verify it further.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 06:04:59 UTC No. 16175085

>>16174644
>modern
that annuls your entire post. We're talking about the ancient past, not modern tribes.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 06:06:00 UTC No. 16175087

>>16174908
lol, I know, therefore my comment

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 10:49:52 UTC No. 16175313

>>16173093
>be grug
>bad time hunting and fishing
>eat shitty berries and nuts to not foreversleep
>we vigaan tribe now says tomorrow bluhair shaman
no fair

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 13:01:47 UTC No. 16175435

>>16175313
The anon is brain-dead. It's terminal.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 13:14:04 UTC No. 16175448

>>16175085
Modern hunter gatherers are the best window we have into the ancient past.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:26:49 UTC No. 16175522

>>16173093
Is modern day “science” trying to make people dumber?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:28:36 UTC No. 16175526

>>16175522
Even Reddit is calling BS
https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiVegan/comments/1cjpyg5/im_calling_bs_on_this_article_that_says_cavemen/

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:45:27 UTC No. 16175547

>>16175526
>Antivegan has antivegan perspective
I wouldn't call that "reddit" calling bs.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:50:23 UTC No. 16175552

>>16173771
>the study says "mostly plants", so minimal animal protein was included in the diet.
This is the key. Both sides, USA-style retarded "carnivores" and strict retarded vegans are retarded. One should eat a bit of everything, as un-slopified as possible, without exaggerations. And yes, of course "mostly pants" by weight.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:59:17 UTC No. 16175558

>>16175552
>And yes, of course "mostly pants" by weight.
See
>>16174658

Αnonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:07:19 UTC No. 16175563

>>16173107
>Anthropology is a fake science that always just justifies prevailing sociology trends. In the Soviet Union, they taught that cavemen were communists.
Sounds plausible, but is there a source I can look at?
>30 years ago, cavemen were hypermasculine hunters and women were gathers. Now, they tell us women and men both shared all the work equally and that homosexuality and transgenders were common.
Are they really saying transgenders were common among cavemen?

>>16173191
>Don't forget that Native American tribes had dick-cut-off men who pretended to be women that were apex spiritual leaders everyone looked up to for support.
Really? When did they start saying that?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:07:43 UTC No. 16175564

>>16173093
The whole concept of a "caveman" diet is so ridiculous. You're talking about 2 million years of history across the whole planet. The only thing we can ascertain about human diets is how we've evolved to be generalists.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:29:58 UTC No. 16175591

>>16173093
If you actually read the study its one group of cavemen in a small geographical area right before the invention of agriculture ate a varied diet including meat, grains, vegetables.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:38:06 UTC No. 16175602

>>16175563
Don't know about them doing penis removal but in recent years lots of media sources, including entertainment, have made claims that there were commonly transgender Native Americans and Vikings in documentaries and shows.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 00:18:14 UTC No. 16176414

>>16175564
Why doesn't every animal evolve to be a generalist?
It's a midwit answer along the same lines as "Humans evolved intelligence to adapt to their social groups"

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:27:47 UTC No. 16177324

>>16176414
You're a golem.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:03:17 UTC No. 16177367

>>16173093
fundamental reading

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:33:13 UTC No. 16177425

>>16173103
all plants contain all amino acids in varied amounts
all greens can convert to short chain fatty acids in the colon
plant based keto requires less protein input
less resistance since the body is 'cleaner', less energy expenditure

our tastes are just very far

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 21:07:18 UTC No. 16177474

>>16177367
I don't remember the details but something about this study is bullshit

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 21:15:55 UTC No. 16177490

>>16177425
>all plants contain all amino acids in varied amounts
no there are a few that lack certain AA the bigger issue is the ratio of various AA is very different to animal requirements meaning that they have to eat higher quantities of otal protein to achieve the same growth rate because of the limiting AAs
>all greens can convert to short chain fatty acids in the colon
no, human hind gut fermentation is limited
>plant based keto requires less protein input
nope, see one
>less resistance since the body is 'cleaner', less energy expenditure
what does this even mean to you?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 21:43:40 UTC No. 16177529

>>16177425
>all plants contain all amino acids...
do you have an idea how many amino acids are out there ? The aminoacids that make up a human are a mere subset of those and the ones deemed EAAs again are a subset of the later. And no, very few plants even contain all EAAs, let alone all human AAs (none does), let alone ALL AAs. Crazy.
>idk about the greens converting to short fatty acids I could see that
the remainder is utter trash again

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 01:24:59 UTC No. 16177749

>>16177425
You sound fat.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 17:07:53 UTC No. 16178598

>>16175563
cease thine gaslighting.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 17:12:56 UTC No. 16178602

NIGGERS DON'T PRESEVRVE EVERY ATOM.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 04:22:37 UTC No. 16179347

>>16173093
you have meat the whole year
fruits and vegetables only some months
i doubt they eat grass like cows all day

>>16173095
this

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 12:36:57 UTC No. 16179745

>>16173111
The research paper was about one specific population at one specific place during one specific time period. Authors made explicit reference to the fact that it sheds light on the diversity of different subsistence strategies used in different places.
Why can't retards tell the difference between research and clickbait headlines about research?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 20:22:41 UTC No. 16180428

>>16173093
>mostly vegan
That like being mostly a virgin or mostly not pregnant. Such conditions are either/or.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 20:37:52 UTC No. 16180452

i like how you all melt down at the fact that hunting for literally every meal is the most inefficient thing a nomadic tribe can do. its way easier to have most people gathering plants and have a couple people hunting in the background. 75% plants 25% meat. this is how uncontacted tribes work. stop being robots

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 20:53:09 UTC No. 16180480

>>16173093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uncd7SvT94c