Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 14:58:18 UTC No. 16173981

yes, if enough money is involved

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 15:37:16 UTC No. 16174041

>>16173975
God didn't decide what is a country, other countries do. So yes if you convince other countries to agree that what ever you have is a country then it's a country. Good luck I guess lmao

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 17:26:39 UTC No. 16174169

>>16173975
The UN is not a country registry bureau

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 17:51:40 UTC No. 16174204

>>16174169
The United Nations is the sole body that grants a country its sovereignty and recognition internationally.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 18:41:40 UTC No. 16174304

>>16174204
Totally wrong. The UN has no such authority. Sovereignty and recognition are matters of consensus, not declaration.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 19:42:18 UTC No. 16174386

>>16174204
>The United Nations is the sole body that grants a country its sovereignty and recognition internationally.

Oh so countries didnt exist before 1945?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:28:18 UTC No. 16174634

>>16173975
Its a country if you can maintain control over it and defend it from foreign law enforcement and militaries (especially whatever country was formerly in control of your island), or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.
Everything else is formalities.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:50:17 UTC No. 16174668

>>16174634
>or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 22:59:23 UTC No. 16174683

>>16174668
works for israel (so far)

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 01:56:15 UTC No. 16174853

Sovereignty comes from strength. Land only belongs to a group capable of defending it.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 05:20:04 UTC No. 16175021

bump

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:02:10 UTC No. 16175701

>>16174668
>or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.
Why is this controversial for you?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:48:02 UTC No. 16175761

>>16175701
it is not
but we all know which country it is

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:55:39 UTC No. 16175781

>>16175761
Tuvalu?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 18:00:30 UTC No. 16175787

>>16175761
Ah, a reference to Israel. Tell you what, very few countries can hold their own in a military sense, for instance Costa Rica doesnt have an army of any sorts. Countries exist in practice as client states of some larger super power that offers them security guarantees in return for signaling allegiance.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 05:47:51 UTC No. 16176709

>>16174304
No you have the cases of Taiwan, Kosovo and Palestine which are technically countries but are not recognised by the members of the UN Security Council.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 11:24:38 UTC No. 16176926

>>16173975
yes if the Vatican City and Monaco can become countries, why not.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 15:19:42 UTC No. 16177102

>>16174386
They did exist but there was the league of nations.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 16:46:48 UTC No. 16177167

>>16173975
In the brains of the nationalists almost anything is possible, perhaps anything even.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 18:01:11 UTC No. 16177233

>>16177102
>but there was the league of nations.
oh so there were no countries before the league of nations?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:01:43 UTC No. 16177284

>>16173975
"Country status" is not some checklist. It's not awarded. It's implemented, as facts on the ground.

You just need to convince enough relevant countries, to treat you like a country, then you are a country.
How you do that? Well, for example having a title of "Count" and being a principality that stretches back for several centuries is a pretty good argument that exposes you as a non-LARPer.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:17:27 UTC No. 16177306

>>16173975
Monaco has a lot rich people influences and casinos.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 02:58:25 UTC No. 16177848

>>16175787
>Countries exist in practice as client states of some larger super power that offers them security guarantees in return for signaling allegiance.
weird how it's US politicians who literally get on their hands and knees and kiss the feet of visiting big wigs from our "loyal little client state"

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 09:46:40 UTC No. 16178147

>>16177284
>"Country status" is not some checklist

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 10:01:49 UTC No. 16178155

>>16178147
>capacity to enter into relations with the other states
This is where most fail.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 13:59:46 UTC No. 16178395

bump

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 17:57:38 UTC No. 16178648

>>16178147
The implication you are making (this document is relevant to statehood) is equivalent to the statement that before this piece of toilet paper was written, there were no states/countries.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 19:31:06 UTC No. 16178770

>>16177848
guess you found who the real super power is
its true, also the part about signaling allegiance. When a country declares it stands with Israel that country will be protected too and allowed to trade within the Israel global block

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 22:54:50 UTC No. 16179033

Personally I've no problems with Israel itself. It's the Jews not in Israel that are the problem.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 01:17:21 UTC No. 16179183

>>16173975
there is mostly another country which this 253 hectores belong.
so if that goverment says/ ok its your country now. then its ok i guess.
But what country/goverment will do that ?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 01:23:12 UTC No. 16179187

>>16173975
Science & Math?