Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 01:30:29 UTC No. 16174828

Collective disdain of his critics

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:04:06 UTC No. 16174862

reminder the government is the problem

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:28:58 UTC No. 16174886

>>16174862
Na killing its best citizens is a feature not a bug

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:37:52 UTC No. 16174895

>>16174828
Noooo a social faux pas guess your fucking dead kid.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:43:18 UTC No. 16174897

>>16174822
Strange how Aristophanes could stand on stage and literally point out politicians and call them fagggots with blown out ass holes but Socrates gets killed

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 02:45:44 UTC No. 16174898

Is there any proof you exist?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 09:40:43 UTC No. 16175250

>>16174822
Where do you think socks came from?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 10:30:35 UTC No. 16175292

>>16174822
Don't know, don't care. He was just another retard as admitted by himself ("I know nothing")

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:02:57 UTC No. 16175499

>>16175292

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:49:56 UTC No. 16175551

>>16175292
>Humility is an alien concept to the unwarranted egomaniac.

ANONYMOUS at Tue, 14 May 2024 14:53:26 UTC No. 16175553

hemlock

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 15:13:55 UTC No. 16175570

>>16174895
Not really, never forget they kept record of executions

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:19:16 UTC No. 16175720

>>16174822
If you count Plato's and Xenophon's texts as proof, then yes. Is that solid proof ? No.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:33:19 UTC No. 16175736

>>16174822
There are no proofs the past existed as told. It should not matter, we can take the world as it is today.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 17:47:07 UTC No. 16175757

>>16174822
what I don't get is how he became so infamous. he was just a guy who had conversations with people. how did everyone in athens know him?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 18:12:31 UTC No. 16175802

>>16175757
greek people are famouse because the british elite in the 19th century got obsessed with them to the point they did nothing in universities but read greek and create associations called after greek letters

Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 22:45:59 UTC No. 16176298

>>16175720
There's considerable evidence that Plato by an large made up him and he was a composite figure to put a name and face to a bunch of philospohical beliefs from that time period.
Much like Homer was invented for The Iliad and the Odyssey

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 05:37:04 UTC No. 16176702

>>16175292
Nothing is actually one of the hardest things to understand, its basically the reason infinity is so hard to understand since infinity is based on other things being limited by nothing, so if someone is able to have complete knowledge about nothing, its actually a pretty big step up from the knowledge the rest of humanity has secured.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 05:57:53 UTC No. 16176719

>>16176298
>There's considerable evidence that Plato by an large made up
No there isn't.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 07:58:41 UTC No. 16176800

>>16174886
Socrates agreed.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 08:01:22 UTC No. 16176803

>>16176298
>>16176719
I think what Anon is thinking of here is that Plato almost certainly put his own beliefs in the mouth of Socrates in his later writings.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 08:29:26 UTC No. 16176819

>>16174897
He was killed for political reasons. He was a commander in the peloponesian wars and was associated with a political faction that had been in disgrace since then that the ruling authorities wanted to dissuade from revolt. The whole “corrupting the youth” thing was a scapegoat for the real reason they wanted him dead which was that he was an outspoken agitator with a respectable military record and a following of young combat aged men which is quite literally THE WORST case scenario for a politician in Ancient Greece that wants to keep his hold on the state.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 08:41:25 UTC No. 16176822

>>16176819
Well yes, he fought in the Peloponnesian war, but after Athens' defeat he ostensibly sided with the oppressor, the so-called Thirty Tyrants who were installed by the victorious Sparta, and his philosophy seemed to support oligarchy. So with the restoration of democracy, there was a real case to be made against him for "corrupting the youth" with anti-Athenian and anti-democratic values. At the same time, they couldn't prosecute him as a member of the Tyrants' regime because his support was not so outspoken as that and there is even a famous anecdote brought up in his defence where he refused to tell some soldiers where they could find an enemy of the regime (but neither did he warn the wanted man).
In the end, he fully surrendered to the mercy of the court and accepted their punishment willingly, in line with his beliefs on a man's duty to the state.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 08:42:35 UTC No. 16176823

It's so fucking whack to me how much of Western philosophy derives from a handful of dudes who all knew each other

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 08:48:07 UTC No. 16176825

>>16176823
They are just the ones who decided to finally write it all down.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 18:54:40 UTC No. 16177277

>>16176823
>rom a handful of dudes
All these texts were composed in renaissance Italy by a dude trying to sell books

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:25:50 UTC No. 16177321

Plato, Xenophon, Aristophanes. Three people who wrote about him. That’s pretty good for the ancient world. I don’t doubt he was real. Kierkegaard thought that he was most like Aristophanes version in The Concept of Irony.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:33:17 UTC No. 16177426

>>16177321
/thread

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 01:56:25 UTC No. 16177787

>>16177277
>what is medieval philosophy

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 02:21:54 UTC No. 16177820

>>16176823
How's that a bad thing? Most movements are started by a bunch of dudes who know each other.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 02:29:26 UTC No. 16177830

>>16176298

Anonymous at Thu, 16 May 2024 14:14:39 UTC No. 16178411

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