🧵 Ozone layer
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:11:20 UTC No. 16180059
Back in the late 80s and 90s, did we stop the ozone layer damage by banning chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or the damage never began in the first place?
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:13:30 UTC No. 16180064
>>16180059
How could there be a hole in the ozone layer if gasses diffuse evenly through a space?
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:17:03 UTC No. 16180074
>>16180059
>anon can't see a pysop for what it was
lol lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:22:20 UTC No. 16180083
We stopped further damage, and it has been slowly recovering.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:27:43 UTC No. 16180091
>>16180059
> or the damage never began in the first place?
The damage happened and was quickly accelerating. Banning most CFC changes almost nothing in daily life because they're a simple convenience easy to replace. Only industrial shills and contrarians would thing that CFC were worth the problems.
CFC acts as a catalyst in the reaction 2O3 -> 3*O2, so their effect is very noticeable.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:30:26 UTC No. 16180094
Genuine question, why don't we just manufacture a bunch of ozone and spray it into the ozone layer to replace what's missing?
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:51:21 UTC No. 16180110
>>16180059
>>16180064
>>16180074
Come to Australia and feel the difference.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:54:35 UTC No. 16180113
>>16180110
>desert continent in the southern hemisphere is hotter than the northern US
Wow, what a revelation! How does that prove there's a hole in the ozone layer?
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 16:55:58 UTC No. 16180115
>>16180091
So how did we fix it? Or did we?
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 17:00:54 UTC No. 16180124
>>16180115
>>16180113
you should download google it's very convenient
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 17:02:25 UTC No. 16180128
>>16180115
Ozone is continuously generated and destroyed, if you remove the catalyst (CFC) that accelerates the destruction of ozone then it'll recover by its own, slowly...
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 17:19:26 UTC No. 16180144
>>16180059
The 'hole' in the 'ozone layer' would be one of the greatest shames of modern environmentalism if anyone remembered it.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 17:33:02 UTC No. 16180157
>>16180124
>point out that visiting Australia today for the first time tells me nothing about what Australia was like in the past or how any of it relates to the past and current state of the ozone layer
>uh... learn to google, bro!
Okay, and how would google make >>16180110 any more logical?
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 05:12:56 UTC No. 16181031
>>16180059
What dors op pic have to do with his
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 05:20:19 UTC No. 16181046
>>16181031
The woman in OP's picture is using an aerosol spray can. Modern aerosol cans use different chemicals now, but decades ago the propellant chemicals in aerosol cans were blamed for thinning the ozone layer and causing a bunch of bad environmental effects as a result. Those same chemicals were in other things like air conditioners and refrigerators as refrigerants, but aerosol cans were the biggest culprit (since AC's and fridges are closed systems while aerosol is sprayed into the air) and became synonymous with damage to the ozone layer.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 08:59:00 UTC No. 16181199
>>16180064
>gasses diffuse evenly through space
Please do us all a favour, fill a pit with propane, argon or CO2, wair for it to 'evenly diffuse through space' and hang out in there for a bit.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 09:01:26 UTC No. 16181202
>>16180110
Australia doesn't even exist?
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 12:55:18 UTC No. 16181375
>>16180059
>pita
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 13:48:48 UTC No. 16181439
>>16181199
Do me a favor and fill a box with ozone and then try to cut a fucking HOLE in it.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 13:50:23 UTC No. 16181444
>>16180059
it was actually a great feat of international cooperation, we figured out the substance that caused the damage and banned it and now it's recovering
it's really rare for humans to cooperate like this but i guess since the substance didn't have a powerful lobby behind it (like oil for example or coal) it was really easy to switch from it
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 13:53:48 UTC No. 16181449
>>16181199
Also, I said evenly diffuse through A space, you dishonest cunt. Even in your picture, the gas in that box has evenly diffused through that space. It being held down by having greater density than the air around it doesn't change the fact that it has spread out as much as possible and as evenly as possible. The ozone layer is also kept together by air pressure, but the ozone in that layer will evenly diffuse throughout the atmospheric layer where it's trapped.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 13:54:20 UTC No. 16181450
>>16181444
Except China has been releasing more and more of it because it's cheaper to manufacture polyurethane foam or something similar with CFC than without, and the ozone problem is worsening again.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 13:57:26 UTC No. 16181455
>>16180059
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montr
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 14:34:42 UTC No. 16181491
>>16181449
>t. doesn't know why there are sluice gates at panama
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 14:42:56 UTC No. 16181505
>>16180059
>picrel
Would make her throw away all deodorants, on ecological reasons, and proceed to clean her armpits with my tongue.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 14:45:35 UTC No. 16181511
>>16181491
I assume you're an ESL too arrogant to accept that you misread and misunderstood my post.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 15:08:49 UTC No. 16181547
>>16181511
>the concept of concentration gradient eludes him
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 17:27:30 UTC No. 16181744
>>16181444
>international cooperation
wtf do you mean? the turd world still manufactures and uses tons of CFCs