Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:07:54 UTC No. 16189471

Very ambitious and cool project.

I would love to see other species revived also. Like the aurochs.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:19:10 UTC No. 16189481

>>16189471
There is, I understand, a program to backbreed the auroch from extant cattle breeds in Poland. The auroch is pretty crazy because it was extirpated in historical times, like 600 years ago or something.
Large grazers like this are very important ecologically, they often remake the landscape from dense, close-canopied forests to open tree-savannah type ecologies with very high species count. An example of this is the long-leaf pine savannah of the American south which is all but gone today but was the rule there for a long time and has some of the greatest biodiversity of any known ecosystem.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:21:21 UTC No. 16189486

>>16189481
*Long-leaf pine savannah was NOT the result of large grazer (that I know of) but of wildfires/human fires and fireadapted long leaf pine species. I meant this as an example of open savannah being much more biodiverse than close-canopied forests.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:22:52 UTC No. 16189489

>Mammoth steaks
the future looks good

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:24:13 UTC No. 16189493

>>16189489
How big would one mammoth rump steak be?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:25:47 UTC No. 16189495

>>16189489
>Mammoth steaks
no, no none of that. Look what happened last time!

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:38:09 UTC No. 16189512

>>16189495
But we can make money off of keeping them around this time.
As long ass there's a market for their meat they will be kept around.
Your old hunter gatherer just hunted them without a focus on managing their population.

I wonder if we could ressurrect something like an ancient sauropod like diplodocus what they would taste like?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 14:42:39 UTC No. 16189592

>>16189465
Agree it would be one of the most incredible scientific accomplishments of humanity. Especially in the field of conservation and efforts to save endangered, or in this case extinct, species. Humanity has caused a massive global extinction event that is ongoing, any way we can try to save some of the biodiversity is worth the effort.

Not sure about the senescence thing lol hopefully not.

>>16189481
Yes large grazers are super important ecologically. I doubt this project will result in millions of woolly mammoths patrolling the tundra, though. Definitely not any time soon as I assume they have a relatively long lifespan like elephants.

We'd not only need to bring them back, but bring back enough of them with diverse genetics to not cause issues with inbreeding. A population needs a certain amount of genetic diversity in order to be adaptable, healthy, and self-sustaining long-term.

The better way to address that problem faster would be to increase the numbers of bison and allow them to roam more widely.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 19:06:18 UTC No. 16189908

>>16189465
Would mammoth survive in this day? Wasn't one of the reasons it went extinct because of diminishing tundra biome?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 19:13:37 UTC No. 16189932

>>16189592
I assume this project has inbuilt plans to manage the herd for at least a century.
I do agree about the bison. Their range was much greater than what it is normally thought to be. They were present in the Florida etc at one point for example.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 05:55:01 UTC No. 16190700

>>16189465
How do we prevent them from interbreeding with elephants?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 10:11:37 UTC No. 16190898

>>16190700
The places they want to introduce them to, like siberia and northern canada, have very few elephants. That said, I think they are using elephants in some way to bioengineer them back into existence.
I do not think some interbreeding would be bad, for the sake of genetic diversity. But elephant traits probably would not translate well into living in siberia.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 10:30:36 UTC No. 16190910

>>16190898
I think they wanted to modify an indian elephant genome to express mammoth cold climate genes

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 12:34:41 UTC No. 16190999

To imagine that these animals were still alive during the Egyptian Old Kingdom

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 14:58:29 UTC No. 16191148

>>16189512
Probably like chicken

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 16:24:45 UTC No. 16191258

>>16189465
yet another delusion of soientists who think they can defy the will of god

Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 21:20:18 UTC No. 16191662

>>16191258
It's not delusional. It's about to be reality

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 07:27:24 UTC No. 16192256

>>16189592
What happens to the forests in Siberia if mammoths are revived?

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 10:05:16 UTC No. 16192413

>>16191148
biggest bird is an ostrich so it might be more like that

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 13:10:41 UTC No. 16192558

>>16189471
or dodos

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 13:22:33 UTC No. 16192572

>>16192558
I wonder what dodo meat tastes like? Sailors reported it to be very fatty.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 13:25:07 UTC No. 16192575

>>16192558
Dodos are useless fucking animals. Completely helpless and clumsy pieces of shit that relied only on the fact that there were no predators on Mauritius. Np No other animal on Earth lived on such easy mode. They deserved to die off.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 18:37:25 UTC No. 16192914

>>16192572
Nope! Primary sources actually say it tasted awful, lol.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 18:38:26 UTC No. 16192916

>>16192575
WILD thing to say. no animal "deserves" to die off.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 18:50:49 UTC No. 16192936

>>16192914
So was it fatty or not?

Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 20:34:53 UTC No. 16193063

>>16192936
Actually, good point. it could have tasted fatty whether it was good or bad, so if you read it somewhere, we're probably both right.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 06:29:57 UTC No. 16193661

>>16192575
So they are the basedjaks of the animal world?

Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 09:15:14 UTC No. 16193804

>>16189512
People say that crocodile meat tastets like a mixture of fish and chicken. I think diplodocus would be a bit similar, with a hint of game-like taste

Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 10:33:17 UTC No. 16193926

>>16189471
I would personally want to see Smilodon and other prehistoric cats revived

Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 18:03:26 UTC No. 16194470

>>16189465

Finally biotechnology does something useful.
Looking forward to a 1KG Mammoth burger!

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 09:28:05 UTC No. 16195503

>>16194470
Is that the seared bite?

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 09:44:36 UTC No. 16195530

>>16189465
>I think it is kind of neat
me too, I support Pleistocene rewilding. I support restoring everything that mankind has ever touched or altered. Back to our original evolutionary geographic location and ecosystem we should return.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 21:53:19 UTC No. 16196601

Bumpety

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 01:38:29 UTC No. 16196920

>>16189465
But they went extnct when those biomes existed, and it has only gotten warmer since then. Why would they do any better now?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 02:10:22 UTC No. 16196958

So humans are unable to save currently living species like Elephants or Tigers but will somehow revive an extinct species and make it more plentiful than current Elephants and Tigers? Yeah totally not bullshit. They have been claiming they were going to revive the mammoth for the last 15 years, zero progress so far.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 03:33:06 UTC No. 16197041

Apparently they want to bring back the passenger pigeon too, which would be sick. Their extinction is pretty insane considering how numerous they were right up to when they were wiped out.

I hope they really get the ball rolling on this. I want my goddamn Carolina parakeet.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 03:34:38 UTC No. 16197044

>>16197041
imagine the rains of bird shit...

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 03:36:09 UTC No. 16197046

>>16196958
https://www.wired.com/story/colossal-biosciences-mammoth/?utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=wired-science&mbid=social_tw_sci
They want to use the technology to preserve extant species as well.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 08:44:15 UTC No. 16197402

>>16196958
Tigers are breeding in captivity, so the population can be restored via conventional methods

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 00:38:17 UTC No. 16198445

>>16196920
Polar bears don't naturally survive in Alabama but somehow Alabama still has polar bears.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 04:10:53 UTC No. 16198639

>>16198445
only because we give them a little cold habitat to live in. People talk about bringing mammoths back as if they would just live in the wild and be fine

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 09:04:22 UTC No. 16198901

>>16189489
>>16189512
>not using them for delicious Mammoth Cheese

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 11:08:59 UTC No. 16198986

>>16195503
>Is that the seared bite?

What?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 14:57:52 UTC No. 16199162

>>16190898
wooly mammoths actually aren't very well suited for those climates, their "wool" isn't very insulating, relative to other arctic animals anyway.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 15:24:54 UTC No. 16199188

>>16198986
some dog shit nogmutt meme about a guy reviewing a burger

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:42:44 UTC No. 16200425

>>16199188
You should try the impossible whopper

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 19:23:36 UTC No. 16201223

>>16198901
Might want to try elephant cheese first before going on a quest for mammoth cheese.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 04:54:29 UTC No. 16202021

>>16201223
Have you tasted?

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 16:07:35 UTC No. 16202666

>>16202021
I get slapped when I try to grab a human breast so I'm not going to try to see what happens if I grab an elephant breast to milk it for cheese.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 16:27:50 UTC No. 16202683

>>16202666
you have to make friends with her first dumbass

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 16:39:01 UTC No. 16202693

>>16202683
What if we breed dwarf elephants so that they don't kill us as easily?

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 04:10:48 UTC No. 16203563

>>16202683
nakadashi

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:32:27 UTC No. 16205015

>>16203563
Seek help

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 22:43:35 UTC No. 16205286

>>16189481
Bring back mastodon and ground sloth

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 23:09:01 UTC No. 16205332

>>16189465
Pure hubris.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 23:11:38 UTC No. 16206924

>>16189465
>>16189592
But what's the point of it? It'd be a good laugh I agree, but the novelty would ware off. So then what? Who's land are they staying on? Sell them as pets? This scheme won't make money so it has to be charitable.

If you think you're gonna stick em in the wild, fuck off, we don't need more dangerous creatures running about. The only animals we need are ones that make money: farm animals. Beyond fur and ivory, mammoths wont provide much.

By all means, if you've got some private well fenced off land, make them, but don't give me eco hippy shit: Nature exists to serve man.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 23:15:01 UTC No. 16206930

>>16189592
>Yes large grazers are super important ecologically
Ecology outside of tourism and pet projects is not important.
>diverse genetics to not cause issues with inbreeding
Or use genetic engineering to fix defects as they arise until they've bred themselves enough mammoths you can leave to it. You're also assuming these would be the real deal mammoth 1.0 from 40,000BC, instead they'd be mammoth+mutt mix like in Jurassic park.
Once again though, who the hell would fund this? Genetic therapies cost lots, feeding animals cost lots, feeding exotic animals even more money money money.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 23:19:16 UTC No. 16206934

>>16195530
Environmentalism is anti-human. The only way to assure their is no impact on the environment is to exterminate humans.
Environmentalism is an objectively pointless quest. Species evolve and die out constantly, even if humans exterminated 99% of species, new ones emerge in a few million years to refill the niches of the exterminated.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 23:42:01 UTC No. 16206958

>>16206924
Russia is the country doing this so it's probably a combination of scientific exploration and a desire to make headlines around the world that makes it look scientifically competent. No one else is bringing back extinct creatures. If Russia can do it, that's a big feather in their hat. Westerners will of course pretend it's nothing, just like the Soviets pretended the Moon landing was nothing, but to everyone else it will be a huge deal.
As for your other questions, they'll live in Russia and probably won't be allowed out of the country, not even for exhibition in other zoos. If you want to see them, you'll have to go to Russia.