🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 02:36:13 UTC No. 16195168

>>16195153
You will never get back as much energy from burning the hydrogen as you use splitting it with the battery, so you just made a heavier, less efficient electric vehicle with a tendency to explode.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 16:02:21 UTC No. 16196022

>>16195153
>The stored hydrogen gas is injected into the combustion engine, where it is ignited to power the vehicle.
Colonization project opportunity for new economic fuel.

https://phys.org/news/2021-10-mars-colony-hydrogen-factory-propellant.html#:~:text=Those%2520aren%2527t%2520the%2520only%2520stipulations%252C%2520though%E2%80%94having%2520launch%2520infrastructure,hydrogen%2520straight%2520from%2520the%2520Martian%2520surface%2520into%2520orbit.

(planet S) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx0fmVvDSDY
(planet U) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H5IGr-qbEc
(planet J) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEN3XNtWnk

Roteman at Mon, 27 May 2024 16:16:20 UTC No. 16196043

>>16195168
all electric vehicles have a tendency to explode

but seriously whats the point in storing it when you can just pipe the compressed hydrogen straight into a combustion chamber and make a hydrogen jet car

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 16:17:38 UTC No. 16196046

>>16195153
>1. Gravity is used to generate electricity through a hydro generator/water turbine.
FTFY
So, a gravity engine, fundamentally.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 18:16:04 UTC No. 16196215

>>16195168
This, midwits don't understand the most basic concepts of energy, fuel, and energy density. Oil is a miracle substance because of it's insanely high energy density paired with it's super easy to transport and use nature. Nothing can compete on a physics/chemistry level nor on an economics of scale level. When you need super dense energy to power a excavation machine or fly a jumbo jet nothing gives you more energy gram for gram than oil. It's just not going to happen.

That's why all the EV's and water cars and all that bullshit is dead on arrival. It's all fruit of a poison tree you will never be able to eat. To defeat oil as a source of energy you need to have a portable fuel that is MORE energy dense than oil and MORE available than oil and LESS expensive to capture, process, and deliver. It's basic science and basic economics. Until you find this magic fuel you will never out compete oil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

Same goes for green energy. Once you factor in all the mining, production, shipping of wind turbines across countries, destruction of wild land, and E-waste the green energy costs you more per Mw hour than oil/coal.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 18:19:47 UTC No. 16196222

>>16195168
Didn't he start out with a hydro plant ?
The only thing that eludes me:
Why not buy electric car, find provider that offers hydro only tariff, charge car, hop in, be a degenerate gay cager. Easy as.
Oh btw didnt read past first sentence.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 18:25:32 UTC No. 16196233

>>16196043
In cyberspunk-like dystopia landscape, we all driving solid hydrogen/diesel hybrid, pure ammonia engine and "woolly/dearman" (liquid nitrogen engine) vehicle someday…

Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 22:54:44 UTC No. 16196716

Vroom

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 02:55:02 UTC No. 16196999

>>16196222
>>16196215
Reply gone?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 13:26:47 UTC No. 16197685

Suggest running chlorine?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 14:12:21 UTC No. 16197722

>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdnelnBDf-g

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 14:38:37 UTC No. 16197739

>>16196999
Anon flew too close to the oil lobby's interests

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 15:05:52 UTC No. 16197761

>>16195153
>Hydrogen
Hydrogen is one of the most difficult to store materials because of how much pressure it needs and how easily it diffuses.

If you have access to renewable energy and want to create fuel out of air and water, there are a variety of other energy carriers you can create that are easier to store, like synthetic Methanol or Nitrogen based fuels. Heck, even metal powders would be better and can be endlessly recycled. Liquids and solids are always less of a pain in the ass than gas.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 19:12:07 UTC No. 16198092

>>16197761
What about toyota/ford new ammonia engine?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 19:34:24 UTC No. 16198124

>>16195153
every time a retard says "water powered car" and then describes a hydrogen ICE with extra steps my lifespan is reduced by 2 weeks

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 20:10:00 UTC No. 16198150

>>16197761
Don't need to store it if you make it on demand

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 21:02:50 UTC No. 16198201

>>16198150
Especially H2 trio of blue, red and gold

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 21:21:07 UTC No. 16198222

already done : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_internal_combustion_engine_vehicle

But as it was said hydrogen I hard to store and to manipulate, it tends to make cylinders crack and in case of a leak it can easily blow up

Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 23:31:27 UTC No. 16198387

>>16198222
Any use in the future?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_nitrogen_engine

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 00:44:20 UTC No. 16198455

>>16197722
>18amps
>120v
~2200w to make 1 liter of h2 per minute
how many miles per liter?
solar panels mounted on the car are out, that’s too much power unless it’s on a semi-truck with a 40ft cargo trailer
I guess you could park and fill up on water and then run your h2 generator and if it’s faster and uses less electricity than an electric car then great.
What happens to the oxygen? Can you collect that too and pump it into the car cabin?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 01:43:45 UTC No. 16198509

>>16195153
>potential drawbacks:
>>Significant water storage space
Meyers went 2600 miles on 10 liters of water

So grab a couple of gallons every month and just enjoy the fact you are free from their co-dependency.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 02:04:46 UTC No. 16198540

>>16198509
>2600 miles
Does his engine run microplastic or sewer water from India?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 12:30:07 UTC No. 16199031

>>16198455
>Can you collect that too and pump it into the car cabin
Yup

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 16:55:40 UTC No. 16199288

>>16198222
>>16198387
Both help the future

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 17:06:12 UTC No. 16199298

>>16198455
>that’s too much power unless it’s on a semi-truck with a 40ft cargo trailer
Electrolyte ICE fuel cell run the boost up to 90% near

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 17:41:07 UTC No. 16199345

>unipolar voltage impulse generator

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a2840/4271398/


https://youtu.be/staL1wr07Sg?si=ER-edGj9eYf89rJc
Around 13 min voltage pulse, restrict amps current salt water

Calling it now, why isnt there a resonant state of water that polarizes the molecule in such a way that one of the Hs just fucks off and combusts

T. Would rather pick up langmuirs hydrogen welding patents and go for HHO 'singing' blimp next to a hydrogen production plant than script kiddie
Im going ahead and hypothesizing there is a resonance condition

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 17:46:19 UTC No. 16199353

>>16199345
There needs to be a field of chemistry that does puc related but with cymatics and/or LC circuits/ current +voltage impulses

What is the frequency cluster to go from fcc to bcc /sci/

Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 18:13:46 UTC No. 16199390

>>16196043
at that point just remove the whole piston actuated combustion engine and just strap on a jet engine

Roteman at Wed, 29 May 2024 18:44:29 UTC No. 16199430

>>16196233
>>16199390
Greater raw material energy?
https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/hydrogen-fuel-cell-ie-drive/8564043/

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 00:09:04 UTC No. 16199966

>>16197739
Strange

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 00:28:08 UTC No. 16199999

>>16198455
Or you could just use an electric motor.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 00:30:42 UTC No. 16200003

>>16199999
Dangerously based quints. It's a shame batteries are such hot trash for energy density because electric motors really are great.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 00:39:30 UTC No. 16200017

>>16199999
Witnessed

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 13:20:02 UTC No. 16200748

>>16199966
>>16200017
Fight the power!

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 14:56:19 UTC No. 16200851

are thermoelectric motors powered by some chemical or nuclear exothermic reaction just not viable or what?

cant you just extract pure sodium from sea water and then add it back into the water and use the heat to generate electricity to power an electric motor? or am i crazy?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 19:43:10 UTC No. 16201247

>>16196233
We all live in cyberpunk world

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 01:11:48 UTC No. 16201774

>>16195153
Why not use Hydrogen Peroxide instead of Hydrogen. It's a liquid, easy to store and can be made out of water as well. Early rockets used it as a fuel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-test_peroxide

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 01:26:06 UTC No. 16201798

>>16195153
>>16199345

Indeed, it seems the objective of the hho water guys patents. Basically do the equivalent of a trampoline double bounce of its stretching vibrational modes (well deca bouncing in his patent [ i'll attest the pyramid builders did 28 double bounces)

get the hydrogen further away, may spice things up with some solvated electron stuff (flush those lone pairs out of the solution, expose mono atomic hydrogen even more (the queens pyramid was found full of salt after all)

get that hydrogen far enough away, maybe have a small seed stream of h2 gas, have it start reccombining, get that langmuir torch

tell me again why i should continue script kiddiing when i could move close to a future hydrogen plant (oh look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding it fell out of favour due to low cost alternatives, i wonder what that plant will do to prices,
than, in relative anonymity, unlock the mysteries of hydronium, prove walter russels substates of hydrogen and make a fleet of airships propelled by electrokinetic flappy bird,

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 01:27:08 UTC No. 16201799

>>16201798
ops wrong img

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 12:42:33 UTC No. 16202452

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwBfqg05S0

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 12:52:44 UTC No. 16202461

>>16201774
>Hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizer that can help the fuel burn more completely and efficiently, leading to increased power and mileage. It can also help clean the engine and exhaust system, making them run more smoothly. However, if you put hydrogen peroxide in your gas tank, it can cause irreversible damage to the engine's metal and plastic components, leading to rust or corrosion. If you put regular hydrogen peroxide in the gas tank, the engine will not start.
Well at least you try give example. The product have no emissions.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33258369/

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 13:58:17 UTC No. 16202503

>>16202461
I wasn't talking about using a normal combustion engine. When hydrogen peroxide comes into contact with a catalyst it turns into hot steam, so you'd need a steam engine or turbine. Obviously the parts would be made out of corrosion resistant material.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 14:11:56 UTC No. 16202521

>>16202503
>steam
Too outdated for modern practical design
>turbine
A literally jet for passenger car?

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 15:45:13 UTC No. 16202641

>>16202503
Rework diesel H2 fuel or that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5zd8mIHTQ

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 16:12:57 UTC No. 16202670

>>16202521
>Too outdated for modern practical design
There are plenty of modern iterations of steam engines around.
>A literally jet for passenger car?
Not jet engines, the kind of turbine you'd use in a power plant to generate power, but smaller.

Also keep in mind with hydrogen peroxide you don't need a boiler or any other thing you'd need with a traditional steam engine, you just spray the hydrogen peroxide on metal catalyst and it reacts immediately turning into hot steam which expands and drives the engine. It's just another working fluid, but uses the same principle.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 16:48:20 UTC No. 16202703

>>16197761
>Heck, even metal powders would be better and can be endlessly recycled
I would like to hear more about this one, can you help an anon out?

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 20:52:48 UTC No. 16202982

>>16195153
Joe Rogan say so

Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 22:13:22 UTC No. 16203080

>>16202641
I doubt peroxide run well on big combustion engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIYL2uGcpj8

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 02:57:31 UTC No. 16203482

H2.O

An/o/n at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 04:40:05 UTC No. 16203607

>>16202670
Dogshit energy density and corrosion. And for what, just to justify trips to gas stations?

An/o/n at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 12:04:05 UTC No. 16204031

>>16203482
Moxie make oxygen! We headed to Mars though the luna base.

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 13:21:26 UTC No. 16204129

>>16202670
>Pöhs immediately jettisoned his remaining fuel and banked around to make an emergency landing, missed the runway, caught the nose of the skid on rough ground, and flipped over. To the relief of his watching comrades his aircraft did not explode, but according to one account, “when they finally reached him and turned the Komet over they were greeted with a gruesome sight: T-Stoff leaking from the ruptured line had dissolved the unconscious Pöhs alive.
>One crewman described the contents of the cockpit as being nothing but vapors and a pink slime at the bottom of the cockpit… nothing that could be identified as a human body.
Really happened?

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 22:45:40 UTC No. 16205289

>>16199999
Battery leak recycle?