🧵 iv'e been seeing a lot of brain size posts,
Roteman at Wed, 29 May 2024 05:29:14 UTC No. 16198708
but does brain size actually correlate to intellegence?
neanderthals had larger brains than humans and they weren't smarter than humans
i want concrete evidence linking the two and some research papers i can go through
i also want proof to dispute the above and research papers for that too
image on right is literally me
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 05:30:55 UTC No. 16198712
has anyone ever seen a neanderthal brain?
Roteman at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:35:53 UTC No. 16198877
>>16198712
based on skull size and shpe we made an educated guess
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:39:27 UTC No. 16198880
>>16198708
Think it has to do with neuron density over size. Neanderthals may have been big brained but humans just had more raw compute. Think about it like a i5 processor over an i7 processor. They both are the same size, one just has more “ooomph” to it.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:46:20 UTC No. 16198886
>>16198708
>neanderthals had larger brains than humans and they weren't smarter than humans
[citation needed]
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:53:28 UTC No. 16198895
>>16198708
Intelligence correlates with brain surface area, not volume. The convolutions of the brain are an evolutionary advantage.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 09:33:17 UTC No. 16198923
>>16198880
It was more like i5 + RTX 4070 for the neanderthal, and i7 alone for sapiens.
Roteman at Wed, 29 May 2024 10:02:36 UTC No. 16198942
>>16198895
>>16198923
>>16198880
so we are all in agreement that size dosent matter, its the use of it that matters
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 10:36:07 UTC No. 16198962
>>16198942
Why would you post this, tell me?
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 10:43:37 UTC No. 16198970
>>16198708
it correlates to knowledge
bigger brain = more knowledge
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 10:44:39 UTC No. 16198971
>>16198970
*capacity
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 12:00:16 UTC No. 16199012
>>16198708
But what if they had better potential to become smart ?
Also are you sure theres no way Homo N. was not actually smarter than Homo S. , on average or in certain ways ? Aparently Homo S. is just a huge faggot teaming up to run up on a nigga after invading their living space.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:20 UTC No. 16199212
>>16198708
brain size does correlate with intelligence but it's only within groups, women have much smaller brains and they are much worse at doing many things because of this but most people wouldn't call them significantly dumber because they cant catch balls
lots of things involving brain activity aren't things we normally associate with the idea of "intelligence" even if they do correlate strongly
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 15:57:36 UTC No. 16199223
>>16198880
No, the Neanderthals did outmatch us in raw compute but most of that was devoted to a larger occipital lobe, whereas we had a more developed prefrontal cortex, which enabled a greater social aptitude, which proved to be more useful than better navigation.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 15:59:47 UTC No. 16199228
neanderthals are a different species which isnt relevant, its likely that they had a larger brain which was also less developed, they were very stocky and heavier than humans.
within a given population for example male Japanese coders, there seems to be a connection between brain size and cognitive ability
There have been many studies on this
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 16:07:51 UTC No. 16199239
>>16199228
>neanderthals are a different species
Are U fucking retarded they're a subspecies.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 16:13:56 UTC No. 16199252
>>16198962
Probably a pajeet
https://www.indiatoday.in/education
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 16:38:52 UTC No. 16199275
They were humans
They were smarter than homo sapiens sapiens
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 17:16:46 UTC No. 16199312
>>16199275
If you look very closely at the diagram posted by OP you can see Neanderthals had a larger brain which was depicted as being less wrinkly
That’s a popular theory the Neanderthals simply had a very large head with a brain that was less developed
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:53 UTC No. 16199359
>>16198708
Brain size correlates with visuospatial IQ, but not with verbal IQ.
https://akarlin.com/cognitive-cliod
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 20:01:57 UTC No. 16199528
>>16199359
Garbage article.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 20:13:26 UTC No. 16199553
>>16199359
https://akarlin.com/paper-review-iq
>For example, they were shown a hammer, an axe, a log and a saw, and asked which of these did not belong. The typical Uzbek answer was that they all belonged together because they are all needed to make firewood. People who are able to think in terms of categorical relationships identify the log as the answer because the other three are tools (an abstract concept).
And, what is it good for?
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:20:10 UTC No. 16200413
>>16199553
And what follows isn't useful either: you need to know if there are camels in Berlin in order to know if there are camels in Germany. Going the other way round is completely useless.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:21:50 UTC No. 16200414
>>16199553
And what follows isn't useful either: you need to know if there are camels in Berlin in order to know that there are no camels in Germany. Going the other way round is completely useless.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:44:55 UTC No. 16200427
Also, is that how it happened? I can imagine the thought process:
>Lead has no known function in the body.
>we found it in a protein
>lead has no function in the body
>but we found it, it is in these proteins!
>WE ARE ALL FUCKUNG POISONED!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 07:45:57 UTC No. 16200429
Also, is that how it happened? I can imagine the thought process:
>Lead has no known function in the body.
>we found it in a protein
>lead has no function in the body
>but we found it, it is in these proteins!
>WE ARE ALL FUCKING POISONED!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:07:15 UTC No. 16200541
>>16198708
>>16198880
Based on modern research Homo Sapiens and Homo Neanderthalensis were behaviourally the same. We know now that everything Homo Sapiens did, Homo Neanderthalensis did too. We've also known that they interbred for a while now, and it's likely that during that time, they didn't even recognise each other as distinct species. It's impossible to say why Homo Neanderthalensis went extinct but it's likely something to do with their physiology like higher calorie requirements than Homo Sapiens.
Roteman at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:30:22 UTC No. 16200559
>>16198962
funny pp joke
>>16199252
nuh uh
But on a more serious note, i think i got the answer i was looking for, thanks 4chan, i can sometimes rely on you
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:40:45 UTC No. 16200570
>>16198708
>neanderthals had larger brains than humans and they weren't smarter than humans
did they tho?
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:59:48 UTC No. 16200591
>>16198708
It correlates to intelligence but is not the ultimate deciding factor, neuron density and the size of individual brain regions of like also play a role. You can see in that image that the Neanderthal’s brain is a different shape, so something like the frontal lobe for example might be smaller in Neanderthals despite overall brain volume being higher
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 11:09:32 UTC No. 16200597
>>16200559
>funny pp joke
No, I'm asking seriously. China seems to work perfectly well without it. Why do you need to group things into such categories?
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 11:15:27 UTC No. 16200601
>>16198708
Neanderthals were more intelligent. The irony is that homo sapien was relatively retarded so took more risks. Those risks sometimes came with larger rewards so became more successful thank the risk-averse neanderthal.
Modern day neanderthal is found doing risk analysis for insurance companies. They understand it.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 11:17:16 UTC No. 16200602
>>16200591
Virtually all cast show a much bigger frontal lobes in ancient people, even for Erectus.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 11:18:34 UTC No. 16200603
>>16200591
Virtually all casts show a much bigger frontal lobe in ancient people, even for Erectus.