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🗑️ 🧵 Science links liberal beliefs to psychotic traits

Anonymous No. 16205745

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic
https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajps.12216

Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians.

A political-science journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more likely to show traits associated with “psychoticism” now says it got it wrong. Very wrong.

The American Journal of Political Science published a correction this year saying that the 2012 paper has “an error” — and that liberal political beliefs, not conservative ones, are actually linked to psychoticism.

“The interpretation of the coding of the political attitude items in the descriptive and preliminary analyses portion of the manuscript was exactly reversed,” the journal said in the startling correction.

“The descriptive analyses report that those higher in Eysenck’s psychoticism are more conservative, but they are actually more liberal; and where the original manuscript reports those higher in neuroticism and social desirability are more liberal, they are, in fact, more conservative.”

In the paper, psychoticism is associated with traits such as tough-mindedness, risk-taking, sensation-seeking, impulsivity and authoritarianism.

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Anonymous No. 16205746

The social-desirability scale measures people’s tendency to answer questions in ways they believe would please researchers, even if it means overestimating their positive characteristics and underestimating negative ones.

The erroneous report has been cited 45 times, according to Thomson Reuters Web of Science.

Brad Verhulst, a Virginia Commonwealth University researcher and a co-author of the paper, said he was not sure who was to blame.

“I don’t know where it happened. All I know is it happened,” he told Retraction Watch, a blog that tracks corrections in academic papers. “It’s our fault for not figuring it out before.”

The journal said the error doesn’t change the main conclusions of the paper, which found that “personality traits do not cause people to develop political attitudes.”

But professor Steven Ludeke of the University of Southern Denmark, who pointed out the errors, told Retraction Watch that they “matter quite a lot.”

“The erroneous results represented some of the larger correlations between personality and politics ever reported; they were reported and interpreted, repeatedly, in the wrong direction,” he said.

Anonymous No. 16205778

>the liberals are the real racists
>the liberals are the real risk takers
>the liberals are the real tough-minds
>the liberals are the real authoritarians
Lmao. Either a cuckservative designed this thinking these things are le bad or it is reverse psychology to make you guys seem based.

Anonymous No. 16205869

>>16205745
>paper aligns with my political views
wtf, science is good now
>paper does not align with my political views
wtf, i hate science now

Why are people like this?

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bodhi No. 16205902

>>16205745

bodhi No. 16205905

>>16205778
It can be summed up very succinctly. Shitlibs project because they are mentally ill

Anonymous No. 16205910

>>16205745
Gee, I wonder how such a "mistake" could happen. Surely no one was motivated to incorrectly present the data as the complete opposite of what it really was. Peer review would have caught such an error.

Anonymous No. 16206298

>>16205745
>believing soience
lmao

Anonymous No. 16206914

>>16205869
projection
just because you're like that doesn't mean everyone is

Anonymous No. 16207062

>>16205745
>oft-cited study
>got it wrong.
>>16205746
>cited 45 times

so presumably all of those 45 papers that cited it now need to be retracted

Anonymous No. 16207075

>>16205745
both are insane. find sollice in the truth of sgt braphog.

Anonymous No. 16207086

>>16205745
>soience has changed

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Anonymous No. 16207098

>>16205778
>the liberals are the real authoritarians

>Putin is evil for convicting his main political rival for corruption in a sham trial to prevent him from running and letting him die in prison
>Biden is...
etc.

Anonymous No. 16207119

>>16205746
Good pic

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Anonymous No. 16207129

>>16205778
>MSNBC would have told me if we were the bad guys.
>Now I need to go murder some babies, use some fentanyl, and sexualize some little kids.
I wonder if there's some way to tell whether someone is on satan's side.

Anonymous No. 16207153

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1717382209911729.webm

>we're the Right Side of History (tm)

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Anonymous No. 16208113

>>16207278
this is actually true.

Anonymous No. 16208514

>>16205745
>"greater liberalism [left-wing thinking] was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex." This part of the brain is associated with empathy. So, maybe this research proves that those on the left are more empathetic.."
https://phys.org/news/2024-03-brain-reveal-youre-wing-politics.html

I'll take empathy, thanks

Anonymous No. 16208518

>>16205745
>where the original manuscript reports those higher in neuroticism and social desirability are more liberal, they are, in fact, more conservative.”
interesting

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Anonymous No. 16208522

>>16207062
>so presumably all of those 45 papers that cited it now need to be retracted

Anonymous No. 16208548

>>16205745
so...

conservatives = neurotic*, and higher social desirability (the tendency for individuals to present themselves favorably to others by overreporting positive behaviors and underreporting negative ones. Insecure, basically)

left wing = psychotic, tough-minded, risk-takers, sensation seekers, impulsive, and authoritarian

flip a coin, lol

*where are the neurotic traits? interesting

Anonymous No. 16208579

>>16208548
>the tendency for individuals to present themselves favorably to others by overreporting positive behaviors and underreporting negative ones. Insecure, basically
You're not "insecure" if you talk about your career instead of your daki collection on first dates.

Anonymous No. 16208700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2YTs2f09k

Anonymous No. 16209033

>>16208514
>I'll take empathy, thanks
Same here! Now let's go abort some more babies!

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Anonymous No. 16209272

>>16208514
>I'll take empathy, thanks

Anonymous No. 16209827

>>16208548
What does psychotic/neurotic dichotomy even mean here? You know it’s always flawed. The nazis joining the police force to shoot blacks are not liberals.

Anonymous No. 16210536

>>16205745
Conservative in the US means being pro-gay marriage but not for trans kids

Anonymous No. 16210648

>>16205745
Lol how many pseuds based their entire worldview on the idea that liberals are neurotic people pleasers and now it turns out that's conservatives?

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Anonymous No. 16210661

>>16210648
>see? the bullies were wrong about me! take that DAD!

Anonymous No. 16211110

>>16210661
What funny about that is that their childhood anti-authoritarianism always miraculously fades away as soon as they get to be in any position of authority.

Anonymous No. 16211218

>>16210661
The bullies were wrong about themselves, lad

Anonymous No. 16212557

>>16211110
thats what lack of internal consistency does to a fella

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>>16205905

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Anonymous No. 16218115

>>16205745
it's true
psychotics are usually low IQ and easy to manipulate same is true for conformist serf cucks like conservatives
two party system is just the system of loonies and cucks
Normal human beings especially those with high intelligent take no part in such foolery

Anonymous No. 16218995

>>16211110
>their childhood anti-authoritarianism always miraculously fades away as soon as they get to be in any position of authority.
Thats also when they lose their illusions about how much better they'd be at running the show than the older, wiser people they spent their youths envying

Anonymous No. 16218997

>>16205745
Liberals are psychotic, conservatives are just retarded.

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Anonymous No. 16222171

>>16205745
You'll find that all atheists are like that

Anonymous No. 16222181

>>16209033
>Now let's go abort some more babies!
Ditto! I feel empathy for those born, not the unconscious.
hey, this is /pol/ material, so let's not keep going.

Anonymous No. 16222187

>>16209272
N=1

Anonymous No. 16223545

>>16205745
Um... Yeah. Of fucking course this will be seen in progressive circles, because they are opposing the established symbolic order and therefore require more "psychotic" traits to do so. I don't understand what's truly subversive about this point, all it tells you is that social deviation is required for progress; and that can usually be seen as closer to psychotic traits. It doesn't mean that said progress is le bad for humanity, it's just a simple disconnect from conservatism. Don't let your political bias change this into "lock liberals in a psych ward".

Anonymous No. 16223555

>>16223545
>All it tells you is that social deviation is required for progress
Adding on that this is an extremely obvious point from human organization conflicts in history as well. People already knew this shit for years and my point is that the essence of this sort of conclusion isn't new.

Anonymous No. 16224463

>>16205745
I could've told you this. Every woman I've met with blue or even hardcore blue beliefs has been absolutely neurotic.

Anonymous No. 16224576

>Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians.
Something something accusation something confession.

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Anonymous No. 16226058

>>16223545
>they are opposing the established symbolic order

Anonymous No. 16226167

>>16205745
WHO
WOULD
HAVE
TOUGHT

Anonymous No. 16226258

>>16205902
>leftistsareliterallyretarded.png

>"conservatives have larger amygdalas"

Anonymous No. 16227621

>>16209272
>go to liberal neighborhood in blackface
>commits epic crimes
>nobody calls the police

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16228769

>>16205745
>the world would be just perfect if I was in charge!!
>I'd fix everything
>then everyone would be so happy they'd all end up worshipping me like a god

Anonymous No. 16229070

>>16209272
researchers are still trying to find out why "breaking" was in quotation marks to this day

but yeah leftists are insane just try talking to one

Anonymous No. 16229859

>>16229070
>just try talking to one
no thanks, I'd rather just take your word for it

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Anonymous No. 16229893

>>16205778
>these were the traits necessary to assert power
Cheers

Anonymous No. 16229897

>>16217716
Banger

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Anonymous No. 16229901

>>16205778
>alex jones calling the democrats the real nazis was 4D chess genius that was only pretending to be retarded

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Anonymous No. 16229902

>>16224463
The least neurotic women I have met were black.

Anonymous No. 16229904

>>16205745
Science confirms I am right!

Also related fake liberal soience deboonked!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16229905

>go on /his/
>/pol/ lite
>go on /sci/
>/pol/ lite
So sad.
Believe it or not it wasn't always this way. I was here when these boards were made and for a while they were actually browsed by people who knew what they were talking about. The discussions were legitimately interesting and educational. But over time they got pushed out by /pol/tards, like almost every other board on this shithole. You fuckers are locusts, you destroy everything you touch, and then you act like it's always been like that.

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Anonymous No. 16229906

>>16226058
>2012 CALLING ALL CHUDS WITH 4.0 GPAS AND 4 FIGURE DEBTS ASSEMBLE!
>2018 CALLING ALL GAYS BROWNS AND JEWS WE WILL GIVE YOU INFINITY MONEY AND UPCUMMIES AND JOBS!

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Anonymous No. 16229907

>>16228769
This but unironically

Anonymous No. 16229908

>>16205746
Isn't this just "looking up" and "looking down"

Anonymous No. 16229912

>>16229907
>augustus was the last caesar before tiberius, the caesar incumbent during the alleged lifespan of Christ
Moschiac is just a Jewish Caesar

Anonymous No. 16229914

>>16229908
No it has to do with waterfalls, bruce lee, and giant evil tapeworm butt monsters from ancient egypt and...

Let the hype live, Anon. Yang ying Jesus

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Anonymous No. 16229943

>>16229907
This but ironically and poisoned in irony and financially subdued in endless irony poison pills keikakus all the way down

Anonymous No. 16229967

>>16205745
>the people demanding higher taxes and more laws were the authoritarians, not the people wanting the establishment to fuck off and stop interfering with them

No shit OP.

Anonymous No. 16229971

>>16223545
>they are opposing the established symbolic order
>implying

Anonymous No. 16230926

>>16229971
>they are opposing the established symbolic order
by parroting everything they learn in their establishment schools or see in the establishment media

Anonymous No. 16231053

>>16229905
Everything is political is what I heard in uni. One must then conclude science is political, as it is included in the set of everything.

Anonymous No. 16231392

>>16229905
Yeah. Unfortunate.

Anonymous No. 16232882

>>16229905
>REEEEEEE NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO POST ANYTHING I DON'T LIKE!!!!
>>16205745
>Science links liberal beliefs to psychotic traits

Anonymous No. 16233687

>>16232882
>deflection
lmao. That's the only trick you faggots can manage, parroting like a mindless bird. /sci/ is dead.

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>>16233687

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Anonymous No. 16235374

>>16234836
You needed a tweet to figure that out? Are you autistic by any chance?
Also, like I said -- parroting like a mindless bird. lmao.

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Anonymous No. 16236661

>>16235374

Anonymous No. 16237492

>>16205745
This is another case of science "discovering" what everyone else already knew decades ago

Anonymous No. 16238317

>>16237492
>science proves that water is wet
that was worth a trillion dollar research program

Anonymous No. 16238685

>>16205745
>2016

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>>16205745
see also -
leftists attacking science pushing their DEI bs

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>>16205745
see also -
leftists overrunning USA education

Anonymous No. 16239850

>>16238685
whats changed significantly since then?
do you have more recent science to show us that supersedes whats in OP

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Anonymous No. 16240674

>>16205745
>Science links liberal beliefs to psychotic traits
Well, science links republicans to emotional irrationality
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-republican-men-environmental-hinges-partisan.html

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>>16240674

Anonymous No. 16241664

>>16205745
Isn't this obvious? Conservatives are normal people with families. Liberals are degenerates. It's obvious that liberals have something wrong with them from their behaviour. A well functioning mental state should lead to functional families and societies.

Anonymous No. 16241671

>>16241664
That explains all their rhetoric about how evil the traditional family is and how it needs to be eliminated.
They hate what other people can achieve, but they cannot because other people's achievements highlight their own failures.

Anonymous No. 16241694

>>16234836
>typing the letters "LMAO" is all that's needed to declare someone a narcissist.
it is unethical for a mental health professional to presume to diagnose someone he has never met nor interacted with in a clinical setting.

Anonymous No. 16243062

>>16241694
You wouldn't be so emotionally triggered by >>16234836 if you didn't feel there wast some truth to it

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>>16220927

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>>16205778

Anonymous No. 16245150

>>16205745
I am faster than science when it comes to these things
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ku1v3Uv2mmkW/

Anonymous No. 16245392

>>16228769
where did you find that world free of religion, dumbass?

Anonymous No. 16245393

>>16229905
>go to read-it
>everything is fine
>stay there

Anonymous No. 16246933

>>16233687
>/sci/ is dead
>I hate /sci/
why are you here?
certainly its not to participate as a good contributor

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Anonymous No. 16248185

>>16246933
4chan has a posting guide
https://www.4chan.org/faq#contribution
but nobody ever abides by it or even looks at it and it isn't enforced

Anonymous No. 16248453

>>16229070
Its because nothing was literally broken, as the doors were unlocked, but the action still fits the euphemism "breaking in" since he was trying to steal things within the car.

Anonymous No. 16249757

>>16205745
they're always just looking for an excuse to be angry and demanding like a crying baby.
if you've raised children then you know how to deal with those kind of people, they need to eventually be taught to grow up and behave like adults.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16249826

>>16205902
Why are you pretending like you understand that figure?

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Anonymous No. 16250261

>>16205778
>liberals
Really, it’s just neuroses of different types.
The political compass should be turned on its side to become a diamond shape. The top being libertarian ideals, and as it descends you become more authoritarian and insane.
Libshits are entitled womtards that expect gibs, auth-right are piss-ants that wanna swing their dick around, and tankies are just deranged.

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>>16250261

Anonymous No. 16250495

>>16208514
Leftist only have empathy for abstract collections divorced from themselves. The further you go out the more they care. A conservative will put priority on those closer to them, more care about their family and their country, while a leftist puts priority on the world and the universe. This might sound sweet and caring but if leads to insane self destructive behavior.

Anonymous No. 16250742

>>16205778
>muh forced 'the real' meme
You just are racists and authoritarians. No stretch needed.

Anonymous No. 16250744

>>16208514
It's a narcissistic, hurtful and destructive "empathy" that you have there.

Anonymous No. 16250836

>>16240674
It's not irrational to reject any environmental proposal by Democrats since they're always just hollow words dress to be pleasantries that do absolutely nothing at best to help or actively end up creating the opposite effects at the worst.
If you actually care about the environment your highest priority is shutting down any garbage being pushed by evangelical "environmentalists".

Anonymous No. 16250843

Your God isn't real and evolution is true. Cope about it

Anonymous No. 16250860

>>16217716
It's the opposite. Tell a conservative the truth that his ancestors were monkeys and before that fish etc. And he has a mental breakdown

Anonymous No. 16250867

>>16243062
>the only reason you'd get angry at someone lying is if you actually think the lie is true
You are unintelligent

Anonymous No. 16252164

>>16250860
>>>/pol/

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16252473

>>16250860
Go back

Anonymous No. 16253046

>>16252164
>>16252473
>makes a political posts shitting on liberals
>gets called out that it's projection
>tells the anon to go /pol/ despite making pol posts himself
Creationism is false and evolution has been proven. Your ancestors were monkeys

Anonymous No. 16254359

>>16253046
proven is an adjective, proved is a verb. monkeys are far more intelligent than you ancestors

Anonymous No. 16254362

>>16254359
Proven is correct in this case, the verb is has.

Anonymous No. 16254721

>>16254359
It's "has been proven" not "has been proved" you moron. You can't speak English.
Evolution is true and creationism is false. Your ancestors were monkeys

Anonymous No. 16254763

>>16253046
Where is the proof for evolution? Who did it? Where was it published?

Anonymous No. 16256158

>>16254721
You should get yourself a copy of Strunk & White and study it

Anonymous No. 16256732

>>16256158
Evolution has been proven and your god isn't real.

Anonymous No. 16257265

>>16205745
Liberals have been proven to have genes that predispose them to overly social behavior, which means they will do ANYTHING to fit in. Most libs would rape and murder children on national tv if it got them twitter likes at this point.

Anonymous No. 16257269

>>16207129
What a fucking bizarre question to judge people on.

>Um, sweaty, now you know god has never once done anything wrong, right?
I don't even think most chriggers would agree with that.

Anonymous No. 16257272

>>16210648
Actually it's a human wide problem which will lead to your extinction, but libs are way worse.

Anonymous No. 16257279

>>16211110
It's called femininity. The modern world is entirely feminized.

- Jews controlling everything (literally a matriarchal society)
- Nanny state micromanagement helicopter governance
- Blame and guilt games 24/7 billionaires, glowniggers and politicians use to get their own way
- Social manipulation and punishment to control people
- Lack of self-control, hedonism, love of gore and violence (oh but that's masculine! NOPE.)

etc., etc., etc.

The current age is one of the dominance of femininity and it's why everything is falling apart.

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Anonymous No. 16257822

>>16257279
women are low iq

Anonymous No. 16257824

>>16257822
Yep. But that wouldn't be so bad if that were the only issue. Women are also extremely emotionally and mentally unstable and prone to violence (which gets covered up by simps). SIDS is literally just women murdering their babies. Most animal torture videos and crush fetish shit is women. Women are batshit insane demons. They are not people.

Anonymous No. 16257912

the right ir paranoid and narcissistic, take your pick between the two evils, lol

Anonymous No. 16257922

>>16257912
You're a woman so nobody has to listen to your whining.

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>>16257922
>You're a woman

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16259126

>>16257824
>Women are also extremely emotionally and mentally unstable and prone to violence
because they have low IQ, same reason negroes are like that, same reason Mexicans are like that, same reason monkeys are like that

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Anonymous No. 16260055

>>16254763

Anonymous No. 16260059

>>16254763
>>16260055
DNA and the fossil record objectively and definitively prove evolution is true.
ERVs objectively and definitively prove that humans and chimps descend from common ancestor
There are literally millions of papers published on these topics which prove it.
You denying this is not an argument.

Anonymous No. 16260467

>>16249826
t, psycho

Anonymous No. 16260470

>>16260059
No they don't, you've never read On the Origin of Species

bodhi No. 16260478

>>16250495
because they dont ever actually have to do anything for abstract collections, outside of bitch and moan. It allows to steal a feeling of virtue without ever having to actually do anything to earn it like volunteering their time or donating money to a charity. They are lazy sacks of shit who are more than happy to donate other people's time and money to whatever retarded cause they have for the week, but never prepared to actually do anything that would require any kind of sacrifice from themselves

bodhi No. 16260480

>>16260059
wow, you are a stone cold retard

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Anonymous No. 16260800

>>16257945
kek, that guy

Anonymous No. 16260818

>>16260478
Without liberals we would literally still be living in the 1800s with no rights for women lgbt people or ethnic minorities lol you retards really do live in your little seperate universe away from the rest of the planet don’t you

Anonymous No. 16261686

>>16260470
Yes they do. I have read on the origins, and it was written before DNA was discovered.
>>16260480
Bodhi you're the least intelligent moron who namefags on this board. Literally nothing you've ever written is intelligent. You used to shill electric universe trash and symbols of an alien sky bullshit.
I'm substantially smarter than you
>Verification not required.

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>>16260818

Anonymous No. 16263111

>>16260059
>>DNA and the fossil record objectively and definitively prove evolution is true.
evolution miraculously stopped when monks became humans. same with fishes, nowadays fishes don't become monks no mo'

it's convenient to be an atheist isn't it. things work and one day magically they don't work no more

I am amazed how atheists have turned genes into the new god. Make me laff when they say their dad was a fish too.
Guess which theory is true according to them:
theory 1 : humans descent from humans, which is verified at every human birth
theory 2: humans transition from a fish, then a monkey, yet it was never observed and fishes today dont transition into monkeys and monkeys today dont transition into humans, just trust me bro. Btw, humans still transition into trannies, that's completely natural and scientific :^)
Face it, atheism-scientism is a religion too, and the whole religion replacement was a power grab by atheists. Atheists make Darwin their new guru. But like all gurus, Darwin is an atheist duplicitous bitch. The only difference between Darwin and Lamarck is that Darwin made up a theory about a population and Lamarck made up a theory about an individual. Now here is the thing. in order to work with ''a population'', you need to use statistics. and statistics dont lead to proofs and even less to truths. Darwin's theory is not falsifiable and atheists are gaga about this, even though in public they say falsifiability is awesome. In fact, the atheist concept of a ''a population'' is not even well defined. At best you they come up with a fuzzy definition. So with darwin theory you get no predictive claims and when you try to get numbers out of it, you only get few stats about a population and if the theory fails, the atheists will say the numerical results are just statistical artifacts, no big deal. In fact ''truth'' is not even defined in statistics. So whatever atheists come up with with their stats, they can't say it's the truth.

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Anonymous No. 16263318

>>16263111
the justifications and reasoning for moving the western world away from Christianity and onto atheism/scientism instead is all outline in "the protocols of the elders of zion", particularly in protocol number 2 under the subheading "destructive education". darwin is the only scientist mentioned by name in the protocols.

Anonymous No. 16263970

>>16263318
based turks spilling the beans about darwin being a jew

Anonymous No. 16264299

>>16263111
>evolution miraculously stopped when monks became humans. same with fishes, nowadays fishes don't become monks no mo'
This isn't what evolution says. If you can only argue against strawmen you're admiting you have no argument.
Mutations do happen literally all the time.
Evolution is falsifiable and has never been falsified.
>>16263318
Your religion is a lie retard. And stop samefagging. Sci isn't a creationist board

Anonymous No. 16264324

>>16205745

science says that 165 million americans are psychotic? thats it im moving to europe

Anonymous No. 16264440

>>16264299
This same shill comes in non-stop with this point. And it is always the same btfo. Mutations are no evolution my nigger.

Anonymous No. 16264453

>>16264440
You're claiming there's only 1 person on the science board who understands evolution? I know you're retarded but that's REALLY retarded
>mutations are not evolution
Yes, they are.

Anonymous No. 16264467

>>16264453
The late stage shill dilemma. Completely clueless on every topic and just waiting to get reamed. In this case, it is plainly obvious that whole degrees of mutations simply have nothing to do with evolution. For example, mutations that occur in populations that aren't breeding, take atheists troons and libshits, but also fags and dikes.

Anonymous No. 16264489

>>16264467
>The late stage shill dilemma. Completely clueless on every topic and just waiting to get reamed.
You have no understanding of genetics you moron.
> In this case, it is plainly obvious that whole degrees of mutations simply have nothing to do with evolution.
Irrelevant. Genetic mutation plus selection is evolution. Both these things are directly observed and thus evolution is true.
The only cope is to deny the actual age if the earth

Anonymous No. 16264498

>>16264489
Oh, now your story is changing. Just like every shill. First you were saying mutation is evolution, but now your are factoring in so-called selection. This activity is precisely what a shill does because they know nothing on any topic and will only backpedal until they are cornered in their own stupidity. How interesting.

Anonymous No. 16265012

>>16264299
creationism has never been conclusively disproved

Anonymous No. 16265147

>>16265012
But abiogenesis has

Anonymous No. 16265279

Pretty meaningless outside particular context.

For example, if we can accept that higher intelligence is linked to mental illness AND that liberals are more likely than conservatives to be psychotic (a mental illness), then we can conclude that liberals are more likely to be smarter than conservatives (to be specific, high intelligence will occur more frequently among liberals than conservatives).

Now what? Given a random sample of liberals and a random sample of conservatives, liberals as a group will be more mentally ill, but also more intelligent while conservatives will be less mentally ill and less intelligent. Ideally We could sift through the worst parts of each sample to get their highest value. For liberals, that means sifting through mentally ill to find the high intelligence. For conservatives, it means sifting through the fewer mentally ill for less-than-high intelligence.

I know who i'd pick.

In the end, this whole deductive line is pointless because one study of questionable repeatability is only worth a "woah, cool. how interesting" .

Anonymous No. 16266284

>>16265279
>higher intelligence is linked to mental illness
its isn't. grandiose delusions of superior intellect are linked to mental illness

Anonymous No. 16266325

>>16266284
Sources are embedded in the article: https://www.medicaldaily.com/why-smarter-people-are-more-likely-be-mentally-ill-270039

I think it's a pretty popular conception that deviations in intelligence beget more deviations in the mind.

Anonymous No. 16266326

>>16266284
But also, your statement is also true. See what i said about context.

Anonymous No. 16266331

>>16266284
Also, there is a difference between grandiose delusions of high intelligence, and proper high intelligence. I was talking about the latter's linkage to mental illness, which again, does exist in the literature. See that article and those studies.

Anonymous No. 16266354

>>16266331
>people who have grandiose delusions of of superior intellect go into academia as a profession in order to publish articles justifying their grandiose delusions of of superior intellect
which is exactly what a delusional person would do
and you believe those articles for the very same reason

Anonymous No. 16266371

>>16266354
that's not really what's happening though.

People go into academia because they're intelligent and they can leverage this into work, not because they have delusions of their intelligence. This also doesn't mean that academics aren't wrong ever - they're human and prone to error.

But let's assume it's true. The conclusion of studies don't depend on delusions. You can dispute them with counter evidence of course, but I think I have provided enough evidence for my claim.

The studies I linked within the article do show a positive correlation between higher measurable (not delusional) intelligence and mental illness.

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Anonymous No. 16266613

>>16266371
>People go into academia because they're intelligent
wrong, its because they presume they're intelligent. if they were legitimately intelligent then that intelligence would result in some sort of concrete evidence of intelligence. the wright brothers were legitimately intelligent as demonstrated by their output, but they never went anywhere near academia. outputting replication crisis literature only demonstrates dishonesty, not intelligence. people who have delusions of superior intellect can't output concrete evidence of their intelligence because that presumed intelligence is fictitious, it doesn't exist, which is why they have to resort to dishonest means to present the illusion of intelligence instead of presenting the real thing.

Anonymous No. 16266668

>>16266613

> if they were legitimately intelligent then that intelligence would result in some sort of concrete evidence of intelligence.

well again, in all the ways that are measurable, this is demonstrated in the studies that I linked.

While i agree that not all intelligent people go into academia (your Wright brothers example), people who do go into it have to pass some sort of cutoff to be able to practice as a scientist.

You can be wrong, you can make mistakes, and you can even be corrupt ,but as a safe generalization, I don't think you can be dumb and understand the math (calculus, differential equations, discrete math, statistics, etc) or the philosophy (Baconian ideas about fallibility, Mill's inductive methods, etc).

>outputting replication crisis literature

Anon, what do you mean by this in regards to my particular claim? I think you ought to look into the studies I linked because this correlation has been observed many times.

While what you say may be true in some specific cases, I think non-smart people (or, let's say people below the cutoff point) don't make it very far in science. Either way, this is kind of off the subject of what I originally posted about because you take issue with the claim that there is a correlation between intelligence and mental illness. Again, please read what I linked to see why this claim has merit.

Anonymous No. 16266684

>>16266668
i meant "Baconian ideas about falsifiability" **
sorry.

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Anonymous No. 16266896

>kill your family because muh politics
seems characteristic of someone thats insane

Anonymous No. 16266902

>>16266896
agreed. That is pretty far. That's one crazy dude. Then again, if someone were legitimately threatened, they should defend themselves no matter what. If that means killing the threat, so be it.

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Anonymous No. 16266907

More insanity

Anonymous No. 16266910

>>16266896
Jesus fucking Christ!

Anonymous No. 16266912

>>16266907
project 2025 is pretty insane desu, have you read it? Also, i can empathize being at rock bottom in a world that doesn't care about you. I don't think this sentiment that insane, especially amongst those who are already mentally ill.

Anonymous No. 16266925

>>16266912
>project 2025 is pretty insane desu, have you read it?
I read it to my wife's son, and he started crying.
Then he asked me why drumpf is so evil, and said we should all be accepting and peaceful.
Then everyone clapped.

Anonymous No. 16266929

>>16266925
lol

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Anonymous No. 16266930

>>16266925
Kek!

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Anonymous No. 16268554

>>16205745
I bet lolbergairians all have avoidant disorder

Anonymous No. 16268562

>>16205745
It was always apparent, but the eurocommie trash and socialist subhumans won't ever get better, they'll only get worse and more insane.

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bodhi No. 16268877

>>16208514
>being a deranged psycho is "empathy"

bodhi No. 16268879

>>16261686
>reeeeeee
Just what a stone cold retard would say

Anonymous No. 16268951

>>16260059
>>16264299
>>16264453
>you jus dun get it!!1
>drink the punch bowl like me!11!!!
>trust the experts chud1!1!!1
Evolutionists are the dumbest mother fuckers in the world.

Anonymous No. 16269057

>>16265012
Yes it has, from the simple fact that the earth is older than 6000 years old and the flood never happened.

Anonymous No. 16269062

>>16264498
The story isn't changing.
>so-called selection
Selection is a simple mechanism and you're simply unintelligent if you don't understand it
Im also clearly more intelligent than you are, as you're arguing against evolution and in favor of young earth creationism. Therefore you're a retard.

Anonymous No. 16269063

>>16265147
No, it hasn't.

Anonymous No. 16269066

>>16268951
>Evolutionists
Not a real thing. Evolution is true and has been proved, and the entire fields of biology, genetics, anthropology confirm it.
You getting angry and denying this doesn't mean anything.
You don't understand how DNA works buddy its obvious

Anonymous No. 16269067

>>16266613
The replication crises is in psychology journals you idiot. It doesn't affect physics, chemistry, or biology.

Anonymous No. 16269076

>>16268879
You're an electric universe and symbols of an alien sky believing retard.
Explain precisely what is wrong with what I said in this post >>16260059 and do it in a way that doesn't out you as being a biologically illiterate moron.
Explain how ERVs don't definitively prove common descent, and explain how DNA and the fossil record don't definitively prove evolution in general.
Taking arguments from answers in genesis also outs you as a retard btw.

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Anonymous No. 16270026

>>16269067
Yes is does.
You wouldn't have gotten emotional enough to resort to hurling invective if you truly believed what you were saying.

bodhi No. 16270135

>>16269076
You are stupid whereas I am not. That is all there is to say on the subject. No amount of screeching and name calling is ever going to change that fact so get a new hobby

Anonymous No. 16270232

>>16205745
Amogus.

Anonymous No. 16270348

>>16270026
>Yes is does.
No it doesn't
>You wouldn't have gotten emotional enough to resort to hurling invective if you truly believed what you were saying.
Insulting an ignoramus doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about. You're not a psychologist and don't understand motivations, it's obvious.
The replication crises isn't in biology. Evolution is true and you coping and denying this makes you a retard.

Anonymous No. 16270350

>>16270135
>You are stupid whereas I am not.
Opposite. You are an electric universe retard and don't understand genetics, which is why you can't respond to my post. You have no idea what ERVs even are and how they prove common descent.
>No amount of screeching and name calling is ever going to change that fact so get a new hobby
You can't have conversations on technical details because you don't know what they are. You don't know how DNA works, you don't understand how ERVs definitely prove common descent between humans and chimps.
You can't address the point because you're ignorant and low IQ

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Anonymous No. 16270365

>>16266896
Well, yes

Anonymous No. 16270458

>>16270350
You don't know how DNA works, you don't understand how ERVs definitely doesn't prove common descent between humans and chimps

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Anonymous No. 16270483

>>16269066
>Not a real thing. Evolution is true and has been proved, and the entire fields of biology, genetics, anthropology confirm it.

evolution miraculously stopped when monks became humans. same with fishes, nowadays fishes don't become monks no mo'

it's convenient to be an atheist isn't it. things work and one day magically they don't work no more

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Anonymous No. 16271141

>>16205746
>>16229908
>Isn't this just "looking up" and "looking down"
No.

bodhi No. 16271327

>>16270350
I've addressed all you idiots who have said like this for years. I am not going to repeat myself for the likes of a screeching drooler like you. If you want my rebuttal to your moronic assertions go search the archives.

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bodhi No. 16271345

>>16270350
In fact I tell you what. I will actually exert a tiny bit of effort for you even though you are a complete imbecile. I wont argue with you, you are too stupid to make it worth my time. I will however provide you with the arguments I had with an actual credentialed anthropologist who has a jewyube channel called Gutsick Gibbon (I myself have a minor anthropology btw unlike yourself) that shared with Dr Emily Reeves (who writes for Evolution News). I am sure you are too lazy to look any of it and too stupid to understand any of it -even when it is spoonfed to you- even if you did, but some other anons may be interested in it.

I dismantle much more convincing arguments made by her than your pseudo trite nonsense.