🧵 Finland birds disappear - scientists baffled
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 07:30:25 UTC No. 16207426
Within 50 years insects disappeared from Finland and behind them are disappearing insect eating birds who made the majority of birds
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-20000
Finland has about thousand lakes. There are fish in many of the lakes. What happened to fish eater birds? Nothing, they are doing great.
But what about the rest of the birds? Those who try to find almost exclusively seeds and nuts are fine.
Insect eating birds have almost disappeared, there is 1% left on what it once was 50 years ago.
Some people say it is global warming. Few rare to say that insects have disappeared. Nobody seems to remember driving araound in car 35 years ago and getting locusts all the time splattered on their windshield in a summer.
Disappearing insects:
-butterflies have greatly reduced their numbers (they eat plants so it is not known why)
-dragonflies eat any insect but with less stuff to eat they are not as common as they once were
-grasshoppers are goners (they eat plants)
-mosquitoes have reduced numbers (they eat people and people are plenty)
-small birds compete with dragonflies, the smallest Finnish birds are the size of the dragonfly and they compete for eating mosquitoes (dragonfly larva has an advantage since it lives in the lakes submerged and eats only baby fish or baby frogs so it doesnt need insects to eat)
WASPS HAVE NOT DISAPPEARED THEY MULTIPLY INSTEAD (yellow jackets)
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 09:46:59 UTC No. 16207524
>>16207426
>herbivorous insects hit the hardest
Bet it has to do with overuse of pesticides
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 13:25:56 UTC No. 16207779
>>16207426
It's the lack of heavy metals and EDTA washing them out of the soil.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:03:01 UTC No. 16207829
>>16207426
It's probably the vaccine or flat earth, just like always on /sci/
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:30:11 UTC No. 16207854
I was thinking of asking how insects are affected by radio frequencies and whether the large arrays and small transmitter have had any effects on wild insect populations but what could be going on with wasps?
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:44:10 UTC No. 16207869
>>16207426
aren't most ecosystems dynamic systems with oscillating populations?
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:03:53 UTC No. 16207883
The government has satellites and traffic cameras everywhere now to keep an eye on the populace and no longer needs to use birds, so they're being retired. No big mystery.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:29:07 UTC No. 16208025
>>16207426
A world with fewer insects is a good thing and you can't convince me otherwise
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:33:16 UTC No. 16208040
>>16207883
I saw my first birds aren't real sticker in the wild a few weeks back
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 18:24:42 UTC No. 16208146
>>16207426
This is what collective human ignorance and inaction has caused. People breed and multiply exponentially, taking up space that would otherwise be reserved for other animals and destabilising the ecosystem. This will continue, more species will die out with no way to resurrect them while most of the populace will do nothing but consume and produce trash without thinking of the consequences.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 18:36:54 UTC No. 16208175
>>16208146
>I am sooooooo smart!!!!
>everyone else is sooooooo dumb!!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 19:26:06 UTC No. 16208243
I'm sure this has nothing to do with pesticides
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:02:54 UTC No. 16208298
>>16208175
That includes me you fucking dumbass. I have not stated that I am any different. But I try to be different, and I think that's what matters. Do you try to be different?
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:05:42 UTC No. 16208301
>>16207426
DDT fiasco again lmfao
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:41:55 UTC No. 16208343
>>16207426
but why is this a problem?
If hippies and communists hadn't stopped us using DDT as liberally as possible, there'd be no opportunity for them to gain a resistance, so we'd've exterminated biting insects by now at the expense of a few birds.