Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 19:30:16 UTC No. 16212220

>>16212215
Basically first cause paradox necessitates that the origin of the universe is a special event that may have a cause that doesn't need to be an Abraham OC desert god or the the cause and effect chain goes back infinitely.

You can't use the logic and observation from inside the universe to tell you what's happening outside the universe.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 19:34:48 UTC No. 16212224

>>16212215
He isn't, gravity is just the potential for an object to follow a certain path, it's all just relative motion coupled with electromagnetic and atomic interactions

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 19:35:52 UTC No. 16212225

>>16212215
>>16212224
Wait, which one is muhammad

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 19:51:37 UTC No. 16212245

Gravity is the result of curved spacetime and the objects falling is the consequence of objects moving on a geodesic. All this can also be approximated by Newtonian field and potentials, but the Einstein's way is more accurate as confirmed by several experiments. We can actually "see and feel" gravitational waves the same way we "see" radio waves. We don't use our eyes but we have devices to detect them.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 19:52:29 UTC No. 16212248

>>16212245
spacetime is a mathematical model, space and time are not made of anything and are abstract concepts

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:00:15 UTC No. 16212266

>>16212248
Where do you think gravitational waves, em waves propagate? In space along the time. Space-time is a mathematical way to represent physical space and time in equal footing.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:03:00 UTC No. 16212271

>>16212266
>Where do you think gravitational waves, em waves propagate?
NTA, but through aether. Spacetime is a concept invented to account for space being a vacuum after aether was declared wrong. Basically, they realized space being a vacuum made no sense but instead of walking it back and admitting aether may actually be a legitimate concept scientists decided to double down by inventing an aether replacement that allowed them to keep saying space is a vacuum.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:05:06 UTC No. 16212274

>>16212266
There are no "gravitational waves", gravity isn't a force
>In space along the time
And neither of these things have any properties of their own, nor are they physical objects, that's why spacetime is an abstract model

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:09:35 UTC No. 16212282

>>16212271
>>16212274
*yawn* pass your undergrad first

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:15:04 UTC No. 16212287

>>16212282
>go to college
No thanks.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:21:20 UTC No. 16212305

>>16212282
Not an argument

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 21:09:45 UTC No. 16212430

>>16212215
What kind of experiment can you design to falsify the existence of a creator? If none, then it's not science, it's bullshit. Muhammad is making a category error.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jun 2024 21:15:39 UTC No. 16212437

>>16212215
I wouldn't be upset if somebody were to gas(uncle saddam style) everyone in that webm, the creators of that tiktok, the people that founded tiktok, and anyone that liked or shared that video. Including op.