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Anonymous No. 16222244

>engineering is a field of troubleshooting/fixing problems
>math is a field of understanding logic with about as many practical uses as philosophy
Why are the two seen as inseparable when math doesn't use any of the same thinking abilities as engineering?

Anonymous No. 16222344

engineering is applied mathematics

Anonymous No. 16222365

>>16222344
Engineering doesn't need mathematics. For instance the Romans engineered a fuck ton of structures like the Coliseum, aqueducts, etc. without mathematics. Conversely Mathematics doesn't need engineering. In fact it doesn't even need Physics or any other academic subject for that matter.

Modern engineering uses mathematics because it makes building/designing shit easier.

Anonymous No. 16223367

>>16222244
please try to do literally any engineering without math.

Anonymous No. 16223377

>>16222344
No, engineering is applied physics. It strictly deals with the realm of real life structures.

Physics is applied math.

Math is applied imaginations.

Anonymous No. 16223434

>>16222365
I highly doubt that. They at least understood basic geometry

Anonymous No. 16223607

>>16222365
>Doesn't need any other academic subject
Why is this the modern assumption with math? Historically, every major 'movement' in math was triggered by the applied community. You dig into any of the fields, and it comes from some observations of the physical reality. All the way back to the Greeks, even with the concept of the platonic ideal, the real informs the understanding of the platonic.

Anonymous No. 16223688

>>16223377
There's lots of engineering disciplines that primarily deal with abstractions and mathematical modeling.

Control theory, as an example, does have at some level application to controlling a real system at some point, but has an entire theoretical modeling discipline separated from this. Optimization theory and information they are much the same despite both being engineering disciplines.

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Anonymous No. 16223715

>>16223434
https://youtu.be/_ivqWN4L3zU?si=zLPh3pfneerVADCs