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Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:49:12 UTC No. 16228243
What scientific field is currently the most thriving? Physics is obviously in crisis for decades, so which one is the top dog now?
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:07:36 UTC No. 16228269
>>16228243
Statistics/AI
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:28:53 UTC No. 16228296
>>16228269
It's oversaturated with garbage. I loved the field but lost passion from the constant bullshittery bloat you see being pushed around.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:09:51 UTC No. 16228397
>>16228243
If anything, astronomy. Multiple orbital telescopes in a wide variety of spectral ranges, widely accessible data online and huge numbers of random people willing to chew through old blurry photos, benefitting greatly from computational advances (although pretty much every field has), though funding isn't the best at least it hasn't been completely fucked by corporate interest yet
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:38:07 UTC No. 16228423
>>16228243
biologists just discovered physics and computer science like 10 years ago and still are trying to figure out how to do cool stuff with it so we'll see how that goes.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:13:44 UTC No. 16228456
Speedrunning
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:02:26 UTC No. 16228733
>>16228269
not science though
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:05:39 UTC No. 16228744
>>16228243
Medicine and biomedical sciences grab the most funding at the moment
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:19:35 UTC No. 16228905
>>16228423
Biology and chemistry have so much more papers released yearly compared to physics. But I guess it's not a surprising since they deal with more complex structures so there is much more things to analyse and discover that are actually useful and have tremendous application in medicine and other fields in opposition with trying to find le god equation that will be the theory of everything.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:20:49 UTC No. 16228909
>>16228269
some recent gains in LLM but AI scientists, and even Altman and Gates have said AI has already plateaued.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:46:06 UTC No. 16228950
>>16228909
If it's plateaued then how is openai going to make AGI by 2030?
Also aren't KAN promising?
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:49:22 UTC No. 16228953
>>16228243
Chemistry and Geology.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:08:04 UTC No. 16229364
>>16228243 check which fields are top in these articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_
Biology, medicine, computing, combinations of these, and a few more.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:43:31 UTC No. 16229400
>>16228950
AGI already happened two years ago (minus two weeks) since we redefined what AGI was when we realized we weren't going to achieve it
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:45:04 UTC No. 16229405
>>16228950
>If it's plateaued then how is openai going to make AGI by 2030?
They aren't
lol
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:45:38 UTC No. 16229407
>>16228953
Elaborate?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 00:28:05 UTC No. 16229468
>>16228243
Math now. Math tomorrow. Math forever.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 00:29:36 UTC No. 16229471
>>16228243
materials science
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:33:45 UTC No. 16229921
>>16229407
They're just the coolest.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:36:39 UTC No. 16229923
>>16229407
NTA but chemistry and geology made the modern world. I don't see any pure mathematicians perfecting extraction and refinery of hydrocarbons or using them to make food and medicine.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:07:58 UTC No. 16230011
>>16229923
>What is a computer?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:59:17 UTC No. 16230169
>>16229471
> lk-99 koreoids, ranga dias, et al. btfo
> all of 2d research btfo
> ai synthesis btfo
matsci is hail marying on like three new ideas rn and all of them are so schizo it's hilarious. muh topological materials. muh spintronics. i'll kill myself. we'll have mandated 200-year lifespans as eternal wagies on mars before we come close to any comparable growth in matsci.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:17:32 UTC No. 16230200
>>16230169
Interesting. Does material science pay the best then when it comes to STEM fields?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:19:59 UTC No. 16230204
>>16228243
Bioinformatics unironically.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 23:49:42 UTC No. 16231303
>>16228744 got any data?
>>16228269 why statistics? AI is just a short-term thing when it comes to the current level of achievements/output.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:33:06 UTC No. 16232166
>>16228269
literally evolving at break-neck speed, it's unreal.
Nonetheless, it's not a natural science, I'm not sure if that's what the OP was asking about.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:34:44 UTC No. 16232168
>>16228243
Economics
Its so powerful it can import 1 million niggers per year for the good of the country
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:36:34 UTC No. 16232170
>>16228243
as a geologist, I think that geophysics and seismology is about to take a huge leap with the aid of AI.
>"the AI algorithm correctly predicted 70% of earthquakes a week before they happened"
https://phys.org/news/2023-10-ai-dr
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 09:37:35 UTC No. 16232172
>>16228953
>>16229407
here's an example:
>>16232170
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 14:39:35 UTC No. 16232590
>>16228269
>AI
fucking midwit
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:44:33 UTC No. 16233509
>>16232166 Example for statistics?
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 13:04:42 UTC No. 16234431
>>16228243
All fields are thriving in their own niche. Only AI and ML are now hyped in popsci
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:41:06 UTC No. 16234576
>>16228243
>Physics is obviously in crisis for decades, so which one is the top dog now?
There is none.
If by "most thriving" you mean the one that does the most good, then all scientific fields are pretty much dead, it's been that way since the end of the Space Race. If by "thriving" you mean financially rewarding, then at the moment it's compsci (inb4 not real science) and medicine, because the former is still being hyped and lots of midwit investors want to launch their own LLM, and the latter is being pumped up by a huge number of boomers who want to live to 120-130 years old looking and feeling younger than they are. Of course, both of these bubbles will burst sooner or later, but for now, choosing one of these fields will make you money.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:50:54 UTC No. 16234587
>>16228243
>Physics is obviously in crisis for decades
Lmao, what a pseud undergrad opinioid
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:50:03 UTC No. 16234665
>>16234576
there is also a third metric: how many papers per year are pumped out in a given field and how many scientific journals focused on them there are. but I guess medicine wins here too.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 23:18:02 UTC No. 16235372
>>16232170
>>16232172
There's a huge risk of AI being able to filter and control true information. Are they really trying to exclude 99% of our students from true knowledge?
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 23:23:43 UTC No. 16235380
>>16228243
Hmm, I would say honestly, it's not on there, but anything involving systems and system of systems.
Systems Engineering is kind of a joke, but also not. Same with system architecture (i.e., UML/SysML). When you start working for real, you realize the thing actually holding humanity back right now are complex systems and how we analyze, understand, and ultimately organize these systems is probably where the next major breakthroughs are. It's why probabilistic graph theory is so fucking hot. AI/ML and Statistical Learning are kind of stop gaps so that we can understand some of these systems as blackbox functions, but it's really not enough.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 23:47:56 UTC No. 16235407
>>16228423
Good to see they're making good time, considering they only discovered calculus in 1981