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Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:00:31 UTC No. 16239046
I don't know if I'm just being retarded, but I don't think that self-referential statements make any sense and simply violate the law of identity.
This would include the statement "this statement is false". They result in an infinite regress, which really just collapses into nothingness. So the statement "this statement is false" is nonsensical, it points at nothing and then says that that nothingness is false; no shit you're not gonna be able to say it's true or false.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:04:07 UTC No. 16239048
>>16239046
You aren't wrong op.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:06:25 UTC No. 16239050
>>16239046
>3 first person pronouns in the 1st sentence of a post moaning about self-referential statements
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 13:50:05 UTC No. 16239434
>>16239046
>which really just collapses into nothingness
wtf is this supposed to mean
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 14:51:17 UTC No. 16239492
In a well-known story, John Perry tells of his experience following a trail of sugar in a supermarket and thinking to himself “The shopper with the torn bag of sugar is making a mess.” Upon realizing that he is the person with the torn bag, he forms a new thought, “I am making a mess.” This thought is new: its functional role is different from the one of the original thought. Perry’s subsequent actions can be explained by ascribing to him this I-thought in a way they cannot by ascribing to him the “I”-free thought. Perry calls beliefs such as “I am making a mess” locating beliefs, and argues that such beliefs cannot avoid employing Mentalese indexicals. There is no way to think the same thought without employing the Mentalese “I.” Such a thought thus contains an essential indexical, or more accurately, essentially contains an indexical reference. In this sense, these thoughts are irreducible to any other, non-indexical kind of thought.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 16:09:26 UTC No. 16239563
this thread is gay
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 16:10:25 UTC No. 16239566
>>16239563
But what is "this thread"?
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:35:50 UTC No. 16239993
>>16239046
Newton's Flaming Laser Sword, let it go