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Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:04:35 UTC No. 16239049
How come John Bardeen is barely even well known within his field instead of being a household name like Einstein?
Bardeen was a much, much more important physicist than Einstein, Bardeen's work lead to major technological advancement that actually benefitted humanity while Einstein's work was practically useless. Bardeen is the only physicist with two Nobel prizes, if anyone should be the most famous 20th century physicist, it should be Bardeen, but instead it's Einstein and Bardeen isn't anywhere near the top of the list of most well known 20th century physicists
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:22:58 UTC No. 16239060
>>16239049
Because he has a stupid name
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 06:42:28 UTC No. 16239078
>>16239049
>Bardeen was a much, much more important physicist than Einstein, Bardeen's work lead to major technological advancement that actually benefitted humanity while Einstein's work was practically useless.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 07:01:27 UTC No. 16239099
>>16239049
>How come John Bardeen is barely even well known within his field instead of being a household name like Einstein?
Because, without disrespecting Bardeen, he was an inventor and his discovered did not flip the entire understanding of the Cosmos and existence, shattering the entire world of classical physics that had held for centuries, the meaning of "time" itself, the malleability of "space", the definition of energy and the relationship between energy and mass in being the one and same things, only present in two different fundamental states, etc, and off-course, the photoelectric effect as being a quantizable phenomenon.
What Einstein did might never again be done by anyone else, but it'd certainly be amazing if it happened again.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:38:12 UTC No. 16239527
Uninterestinf early life section+an engineer, which jews never do well.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:45:15 UTC No. 16239536
>>16239049
>within his field
No, he is well known within both of his fields.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:38:28 UTC No. 16239697
>>16239527
Wikipedia early life sections make going to college in the mid 20th century sound much more pleasant than it is currently.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:22:47 UTC No. 16239828
>>16239078
the invention of the transistor was a much, much bigger deal for progress in science and technology than einstein's invention of nothing whatsoever
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:28:08 UTC No. 16239837
>>16239049
>>16239828
>another thinly veiled "seething about einstein" thread
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 21:17:09 UTC No. 16239970
>>16239828
Irrelevant, you're comparing apples to oranges.
Einstein was not an engineer nor an applied physicist. He was a fundamental physicist, he helped us see reality in a novel way that no one could have ever imagined. I'm sorry you don't understand the difference.
And, might as well add that anything that depends on nuclear fusion/fission and relativistic effects, you can thank Einstein.
inb4 "such as?"
Off topic, and do you own damn reading.
>>16239837
>another thinly veiled "seething about einstein" thread
yes, it's that nazi dickhead again
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 06:38:22 UTC No. 16240649
>>16239970
>oy vay da nazis are out to get me!!!!
https://www.healthcentral.com/condi
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 07:42:31 UTC No. 16240688
>>16240649
we know who you are. Fuck off, and take your meds.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 10:01:09 UTC No. 16240794
>>16239828
Einstein's theory of relativity is used in the GPS system
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 10:11:20 UTC No. 16240803
>>16240794
it's also how we convert mass into energy in nuclear reactors
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 10:17:57 UTC No. 16240810
jews are much better at self promoting their own
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:08:26 UTC No. 16241335
>>16240794
>Einstein's theory of relativity is used in the GPS system
Could just be fixed empirically. You send a clock top orbit, notice it gets the time wrong after some time, and the effect gets worse with time. Well you just synchronize it daily the same way i had to wind up my grandfather's pendulum clock and turn the clock-hands until they matched the time on my quartz watch
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:11:35 UTC No. 16241337
>>16240803
>it's also how we convert mass into energy in nuclear reactors
Ridiculous notion. Radioactivity was discovered empirically and completely by accident. You dont need relativity to understand how a nuclear reaction generates energy any more than you need relativity to understand how a chemical reaction generates energy. Only thing that changes is the energy scale, but as far as understanding its pretty dumb: Big uranium sphere gets hot.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:29:06 UTC No. 16241447
>>16239697
How so?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 21:30:39 UTC No. 16241638
>>16240794
no it isn't, that myth is only believed by people who are too uneducated about physics to understand how GPS works
Simulacrum at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:24:51 UTC No. 16241711
>>16239828
More anti-semitic rubbish.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:34:07 UTC No. 16241728
There are so many examples of threads beginning by explaining why some scientist is overrated, only for the OP to later reveal that their disdain for the scientist is partly based on some anti-semitic trope.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:44:06 UTC No. 16241740
>>16239099
>the entire understanding of the Cosmos and existence
no discovery has ever done that
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:18:51 UTC No. 16241797
>>16241728
Why should anyone that isn't jewish not be anti-semitic?
Jews lividly hate all non-jews and consider them to be less than human, how come that shouldn't work both ways?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:48:17 UTC No. 16242400
>>16241337
Observation is not understanding. Relativity explains how the loss of mass gets converted into energy.
>>16241638
Yes, people like yourself, obviously.
>>16241740
Take your subjective opinion and smoke, we don't care.
YET ANOTHER TROLL THREAD, JANNIES. HOW MUCH DO YOU GET PAID FOR DOING NOTHING ABOUT THIS TRASH, YOU COMPROMISED PIECES OF SHIT?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:05:43 UTC No. 16243059
>>16241797
failure to be suspicious and distrustful of people who hate you is suicidal. game theory can be used to prove that
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 06:39:38 UTC No. 16243723
>>16242400
>Relativity explains how the loss of mass gets converted into energy.
no it doesn't
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:44:25 UTC No. 16245140
>>16242400
>omg he used capslock!!! that means he is really mad and you have to do what he says.
imagine throwing tantrums like a baby and still considering yourself an adult
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:18:58 UTC No. 16245258
>>16239099
I've kind of noticed "understanding the cosmos" means a lot let for our lives than breakthroughs in engineering. In fact really the best reason to understand physics is the hope that it applies to engineering some day. The worst thing is a profound discovery that has no applications for engineering whatsoever. Imagine if some genius discovered warp drive is absolutely, in no uncertain terms, completely impossible, and he discovered it tomorrow. Good job fag heres a clap
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:29:59 UTC No. 16245272
>>16243723
>no it doesn't
liar
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:43:48 UTC No. 16245452
>>16239078
nobody for your asked opinion?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:11:31 UTC No. 16245507
>>16245452
>nobody for your asked opinion?
it's Donald Trump, what do you expect?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:19:50 UTC No. 16245820
>>16242400
>Relativity explains how the loss of mass gets converted into energy.
Theres also a loss of mass in common chemical reaction yet nobody cares, you dont need to understand relativity to know that coal burns. For fission, its like 0.1% mass loss anyway so easy to miss.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:21:32 UTC No. 16245823
>>16242400
GPS would work the same without any understanding of general relativity. You know people can just set clocks to a given reference time, do you?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:32:04 UTC No. 16245840
>>16245823
Yes please go into outer space without a suit and preferably by exploding your own mouth with the diarrhea you're spouting and fix the damn space clocks
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:10:38 UTC No. 16245908
>>16245823
>You know people can just set clocks to a given reference time, do you?
That's not enough anon: due to their velocities, the atomic clocks on GPS satellites run at slightly different rates compared to clocks on Earth's surface and compared to each other. General relativity causes the clocks to run faster due to the weaker gravitational field at the satellites' high altitudes, while special relativity causes them to run slower due to the satellites' high speeds. Additionally, the relative motion between satellites requires further relativistic calculations to account for their differing velocities. These corrections are essential for maintaining the precise timing needed for accurate triangulation and geopositioning. Without these corrections, the distances calculated between satellites and GPS receivers on Earth would be off, leading to significant errors in determining positions on the ground.
Yes, it's that crazy-precise.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:35:13 UTC No. 16246588
>>16239049
e=mc2 created the atomic bomb
the transistor created 911
decide which is more important, especially in regards to bell's own history creating the digitally switched telephone network and how it didn't change AT&T's monopoly until the government decided it shouldn't be a monopoly
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:22:15 UTC No. 16246808
>>16246588
>e=mc2 created the atomic bomb
no it didn't, they might've taught you that in elementary school, but if you've ever studied physics at a graduate school level you'd know it wasn't true.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:49:22 UTC No. 16246850
>>16246808
>>16241638
You're just repeating the same shit
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 07:53:58 UTC No. 16247074
>>16246808
>no it didn't
Good grief anon, do you need another detailed explanation? Alright:
The formula E=mc^2 was fundamental for the creation of the atomic bomb because it quantifies the relationship between mass involved and the energy released in the fission conversion. The understanding that mass could be converted into energy at such a scale made the development of atomic weapons possible, as it provided the theoretical idea for the enormous explosive power derived from nuclear reactions. The idea for an atomic bomb DIDN'T EVEN EXIST before Einstein discovered relativity. The concept that mass could be converted directly into energy on such a massive scale was unknown:
Einstein discovered the formula in 1905, and the first atom bomb idea was proposed in 1933 by Leo Szilard.
Not just that, but a bomb cannot be properly engineered safely, efficiently, and with proper containment without knowing the exact relationships between the mass required for ignition, the critical mass density needed, and the amount of energy released. Einstein's formulas gave us that knowledge.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 18:24:36 UTC No. 16247881
>>16247074
>its true because I used capslock as a substitute for yelling
you are emotionally unhinged.
science is for rational people, not screeching crybabies.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 19:20:20 UTC No. 16247971
>>16247881
>I used capslock as a substitute for yelling
I didn't yell, I used tonal inflection, and I had to because you're STUPID, as everyone can see from this thread.
I did yell there, now fuck off because you have nothing else to counter with, ignorant.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 08:24:52 UTC No. 16248955
All of this hate for Bardeen simply because he isn't the jewish science messiah is ridiculous. Bardeen had a fantastically successful and important science career and the fact that he isn't a household name is unfortunate.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 08:31:23 UTC No. 16248963
>>16248955
>All of this hate for Bardeen
I don't see the "hate". Respect was paid to Bardeen on where it was due, but the OP specifically goes into a comparison against Einstein, and, read the thread, that's towards whom the hatred is directed on here.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 04:52:25 UTC No. 16250381
>>16248963
The entire thread is devoted to minimizing Bardeen's fantastic accomplishments as a means of building up Einstein's reputation. If Einstein was really as superior to Bardeen as everyone in this thread says he is then Einstein would have a long list of significant accomplishments that would dwarf Bardeen's.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 22:08:46 UTC No. 16251682
>>16245820
People who've never studied physics will always have to believe the lame stories they learned about physics in high school and on TV, thats the only reason anyone thinks Einstein was important. If you actually get a physics degree you'll notice you went through the whole thing without barely even hearing Einstein mentioned the whole time.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 22:15:10 UTC No. 16251699
>>16239049
rocks conducting electricity alright is a lot less interesting to the general public than time being wibbly-wobbly and black holes
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 00:11:09 UTC No. 16251920
>>16250381
>The entire thread is devoted to minimizing Bardeen's fantastic accomplishments as a means of building up Einstein's reputation.
eerrr, no, read the OP again, come on.
I already gave you my comment regarding your distorted interpretation. There is nothing else to say.
You will never, ever, undo history and undo Einstein's achievements and their significance. Forget it. No matter how many of these shit threads you make and scientists you compare and contrast to Einstein, you will not alter science history.
And, frankly, you should go here to keep trying to do that, you're off-topic here:
>>>/his/
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:15:51 UTC No. 16252983
>>16251920
>Einstein's achievements and their significance
he didn't achieve anything significant
>>16247074
>the E=mc^2 meme
get lost, you've never studied physics and you have no idea what that equation even means. mass energy equivalency had already been computed long before einstein
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:16:03 UTC No. 16253107
>>16252983
>you've never studied physics and you have no idea what that equation even means
if you only knew who you're talking to...
grow up, young man, grow up.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:54:24 UTC No. 16254344
>>16252983
>he didn't achieve anything significant
He absurdly gets credited for all of the work on the atom bomb all of which was done by other people because Einstein couldn't get security clearance because he was a known communist subversive. The fact that this isn't well known even here on the science board is just more evidence of how thoroughly communists control the media and academia.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:08:32 UTC No. 16254354
>>16254344
>He absurdly gets credited for all of the work on the atom bomb
what the fuck are you even talking about, dummy? Who the fuck have you been talking to, reading, or listening to that is misleading in such a wrong way?
Einstein was not an engineer, he did not do "all the work" in the Manhattan project, everyone who enjoys a bit of science history knows that, for fuck's sake. It wasn't even Einstein who came up with the idea for the bomb! It was Leo Szilard.
Einstein, Einstein, Einstein, rent-free! In a Bardeen thread! Off-topic!
>communist
Who cares! That's not science! Go to /pol/
This isn't even science anymore, this is just an absolute miscomprehension of history.
Go confuse people someplace else.
go here:
>>>/his/
And to the other anons, it's time we STOP FEEDING THIS TROLL
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:50:10 UTC No. 16254396
>>16253107
How old are you?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:26:04 UTC No. 16254725
>>16241711
Reality is anti-semitic
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:43:55 UTC No. 16255726
>>16239049
Quite honestly I think Bardeen wouldn't want the extra attention even considering his accomplishments.
And in review transistors were >99% based
and superconductivity was 75% based.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 03:22:10 UTC No. 16255958
>>16254354
if this thread upsets you that badly just hide it, having a massive spergout only shows off how emotionally unstable and easily triggered you are.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:09:46 UTC No. 16256018
>>16239697
>Wikipedia early life sections make going to college in the mid 20th century sound much more pleasant than it is currently
That's because they don't tell you anything about hazing rituals in early to mid 20th century universtities or about nepotism and classism in British/American/German academia back in those days. Back in those days, even lesser-known philosophy professors had groups of students from both sexes following them around and imitating every habit or mannerism of theirs. University professors were so deeply respected that they had an almost unquestionable influence over local political affairs and were consulted even for the purpose of taking business decisions in areas far outisde their subject of expertise.
If you think thousands of Pajeets and CCP intelligentsia's children studying in America is intolerable, you would have hated living in the days in which Eton College-educated homosexuals flooded the halls of Oxbridge, and in which every single Ivy League student was a pompous High Church Episcopal fag who came from a private school in New England where they taught Ancient Greek and Latin. At least nowadays you can study computer science or chemistry without having to be a church-going Anglican who got molested as a 12-year-old by a fellow male student.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:01:24 UTC No. 16256490
>>16239099
> flip the entire understanding of the Cosmos and existence
Not true. Einsteins relativity work had roots in a dozens of other, far more brilliant scientists.
Without Maxwells equations showing the invariance of the speed of light and / or Lorentz' transform relativity wouldnt exisit.
In fact relativity was so "un-cosmos flipping or any other bullshit - adjective terms" from your post that Eisnstein never was awarded a Nobel Prize for relativity. Relativity was one of a number of theories all developed around the core of an explosion in physics.
I dont mean to say Einstein was irrelevant, his work on the photo-electric effect was good enough for a nobel prize.
But you are simply a victim of mainstream media by vomiting out shit -laden adjectives of the imagined consequences of his work as you do.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:17:47 UTC No. 16257597
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:31:03 UTC No. 16258575
>>16241797
>Why should anyone that isn't jewish not be anti-semitic?
jews can never answer this question
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:09:41 UTC No. 16259416
>>16258575
If jews think all non-jews should either be killed or be their servants then why shouldn't all non-jews have the same feelings about jews?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:29:08 UTC No. 16259741
>>16239049
Surprised this isn't about Shockley
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:19:28 UTC No. 16259813
>>16239049
because he wasn't shilled by the media like a certain jew
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:42:30 UTC No. 16260510
>>16259741
Shockley was based, but like Einstein he only has one Nobel prize in physics
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 11:16:39 UTC No. 16260983
>>16239049
>How come John Bardeen is barely even well known within his field instead
It doesn't help your arguments that your question is wrong.
First of all, it should be fields, not field. He is famous for his semiconductor work, in particular the transistor, and also in the superconductor field, expecially the BCS theory. I will let you guess what the "B" refers to.
Secondly, he IS famous in both his fields. He is also famous outside academia, such as in the semiconductor industry.
t.Physicist
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:25:40 UTC No. 16261884
>>16260801
>Effectively zero
>t-t-total victory....r-r-rent free
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:08:32 UTC No. 16263296
>>16260983
does BCS stand for Big CockS?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 16:58:42 UTC No. 16264509
>>16263296
yes
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:22:05 UTC No. 16265493
Its a great irony that Bardeen's genius and the technological revolution that resulted from it is what lead to the contrived reputation of St. Einstein the infallible super genius god of the soience atheists being spread far and wide while Bardeen himself languished in relative obscurity.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 04:54:13 UTC No. 16267224
>>16250381
he would also have multiple noble prizes, instead he has only one. einstein is no more important than a long list of no-name physicists with single nobels
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 01:46:02 UTC No. 16268329
>>16267224
Bardeen must be twice as important as Einstein since Bardeen has twice as many Nobel prizes
Vegan at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:52:45 UTC No. 16269568
>>16239099
>muh heckin epic SCIENCE
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:05:10 UTC No. 16270211
>>16239970
Many scientists did imagine all that before Eistein copy pasted their ideas. But they weren't jewish and didn't have a support of jewish media.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:08:07 UTC No. 16270214
>>16241728
Yea, of cource it's the case of world wide conspiracy againstte jews for rge last4 milenias? Or maybe it's something wrong with jews? Like in case of Einstein copy pasting ideas of other scientists and the jewish media putting him on pedestal?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:10:40 UTC No. 16270216
>>16247074
That formula with a different coficient was published by a german scientists a long time prior einstein did and was well discussed among many. So no, you are absolutely wrong.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:23:06 UTC No. 16270228
>>16239049
Why are/pol/tards so hostile to the idea of any knowledge that isn't immediately applicable in developing some gadget or another? My guess, it's cope for having learning disorders, for having consistently failed at academic subjects all throughout their lives. Why do these drooling retards come to the science board despite that? Probably because they know janny will let their posts stay up.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:48:16 UTC No. 16271084
>>16270228
Are you saying you have absolitely no arguments other than insulting people?
Do you understand that attacking personality could wprk on a college campus, but on here everyone will see that you have lost the argument?
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:09:39 UTC No. 16271092
>>16239828
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:31:32 UTC No. 16271337
>>16271092
Maxwell's equation implies that the speed of light is constant. So the only contribution of Einstein is repeating what someone stated a long time ago? Yout screen only tells that Einstein had no accomplishments at all...
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:10:12 UTC No. 16271364
Laymen are very bad at identifying who is a proper expert in a field and who is a hack, that's how the publicity-hungry biggest hacks get to be regarded as top experts. Fauci, Hawking, Sagan, Black Science Rapist, Kaku, Tesla, Taleb, you name it.
That applies to geniuses as well, retards name absolute memes and don't have the faintest opinion about Gauss, Euler, Pointcaré, Dirac... If you're the real deal you will only be remembered by the real experts in your field, and they probably won't even give you the due credit.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:15:34 UTC No. 16271370
>>16240794
>can only think of one example of Einstein's practical relevance
>gets deboonked
http://www.alternativephysics.org/b
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:53:32 UTC No. 16271388
>>16271084
Screaming itz dah joooos and spamming your/pol/ folder is not an argument. It's just an expression of you being a drooling retard on the internet. In fact making any kind of argument is far beyond your mental abilities... You're here exclusively cause you know janny will let your posts stay up. If they started deleting/pol/shit on /sci/, you'd be off to some other board instantly.