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Anonymous No. 16239103

Did China really surpass the West scientifically? Perhaps some of you know more about the academic world in China.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2024/06/12/china-has-become-a-scientific-superpower

Anonymous No. 16239109

>>16239103
It wouldn't shock me. Europeans are a race on the decline. China is ascending.

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Anonymous No. 16239119

>>16239103
>Did China really surpass the West scientifically?
In regard to the number of research publications in some research areas, yes, as you can see in your own chart. How much of it is bullshit, fraud, bad science, etc? Who knows, but there it is: the Chinese sure publish lots.

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Anonymous No. 16239120

>>16239103
>equating science to academia

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>>16239109
post eyes faggot chink

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Anonymous No. 16239147

>>16239119
>>16239120
It's not just papers.

Anonymous No. 16239308

>>16239147
Centralized planning, it works (sometimes).

Nonetheless, FUCK XI JINPING.

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Anonymous No. 16239388

>>16239147
>confusing quality with quantity
The Chinese culture is collectivist and conformists (even more so than Western societies), so I don't expect many scientific breakthroughs (i.e. new insights that force people to change their model/cognitive schema) to come from there. Until you show me that Chinese scientists discover more breakthroughs, my bet is on individualistic societies to produce better science

Anonymous No. 16239411

>>16239388
No idea why people think that somehow impedes progress.

Anonymous No. 16239502

>>16239103
I see it as natural progression. DEI, mass illegal immigration, affirmative action, and other similar programs are more foreign to myself, an American male, than China's rise through hard work.

Anonymous No. 16239508

>>16239103
>high impact
Why people give weight to such a game-able metric is beyond me.
Choose a metric that doesn't see value in empty citation circle-jerking.

Anonymous No. 16239581

>>16239411
>progress = change, producing something new
>collectivist = above all I want to fit in, and not be different, and not risk new untried ideas that may hurt the collective
it's not that hard to see

Anonymous No. 16239741

>>16239103
Is the 1.3 (or whatever) billion people nation citing itself to achieve "high impact?"

Anonymous No. 16239915

>>16239581
Not at all, that is much more kmportant in indualist societies where you have to constantly show allegiance to a particular subgroup, without revealing your belonging to a secret clique that you are a part of, and showing non-allegiance to an enemy group, or whatever fuck is going on among you there .

Anonymous No. 16239922

>>16239103
No, because all of their technology is based off of stolen western technology. China is not capable of actually developing anything independently. All they can do is steal and make inferior copies of our technology.

Anonymous No. 16240564

>>16239922
The primary purpose of Mossad is technology theft.