🗑️ 🧵 Wait, it's all me experiencing myself?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:26:32 UTC No. 16240226
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:32:32 UTC No. 16240232
No, because you’re a reactionary neo-faggot
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:55:13 UTC No. 16240272
Yes the universe is self concious,via humans.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 01:29:42 UTC No. 16240327
Given that there are very few panpsychists in the world, most everyone is an emergentist. But, as Galen Strawson has recently emphasized, emergentism is not a forgone conclusion. In fact, it is highly dubious. If one is not a panpsychist, then one necessarily believes that only some subset of creatures is privileged to possess mind. The vast remainder of nature, then, is utterly non-mental. This, Strawson observes, is pure presumption: “there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever”for a non-mental component of reality. We simply assume it to be so. Strawson’s argument, in a nutshell, is this:
-There is one ultimate reality to the universe (“realistic physicalism,” as he calls it).
-Mental (that is, experiential) phenomena are a part of this monistic reality. Therefore, experiential phenomena are physical phenomena, rightly understood.
-Radical-kind, or brute, emergence is impossible; mental phenomena cannot arise from any purely non-mental stuff.
-Therefore, the one reality and all things in it are necessarily experiential.
If we are to be physicalists, Strawson says, then let us be real physicalists and take the implications seriously. When we do so, we find that “something akin to panpsychism is not merely one possible form of realistic physicalism, but the only possible form, and hence, the only possible form of physicalism tout court”.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 01:51:15 UTC No. 16240362
>>16240226
it's a very strange loop
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 03:42:35 UTC No. 16240506
>>16240327
That's a lot of assumptions you philosophers are throwing around, as always.
I'm just going to ask a simple question - do you or do you not have an experiment to verify panpsychism vs emergenism. Because if not it's going to be he-said-she-said forever.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 03:44:26 UTC No. 16240509
Panpsychism is the view that all things have a mind or a mind-like quality.
So if all matter is sentient, does it even mean anything? Matter is finite in nature. God is basically telling matter to get fucked. It's not like material beings have a soul.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:04:55 UTC No. 16240522
>>16240509
just because matter is capable of sentience, doesn't mean it is.
personally I think sentience exists somewhere within the electro-magnetic spectrum.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 06:29:20 UTC No. 16240638
>>16240226
>Wait, it's all me experiencing myself?
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