🧵 humans are predators
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 01:49:21 UTC No. 16240358
this should be obvious to anyone with half a brain
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 02:05:20 UTC No. 16240381
>>16240360
Cervusidas.
https://youtu.be/csCUpDwEAWk
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 03:22:42 UTC No. 16240479
yes it's why tons of megafauna were driven to extinction. humans are suited to hunting them.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:59:07 UTC No. 16242196
>>16240358
vegans don't have half a brain tho, their diet causes their brains to atrophy
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:58:36 UTC No. 16243537
>>16242196
Thats why they're too stupid to realized that they're idiots
>dumb things are dumb
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:43:06 UTC No. 16244987
>>16240479
They shouldn't have evolved to be so delicious if they didn't want to go extinct. Theres all sort of animals that manage to evolve to be inedibly disgusting, the species that don't go that route are asking for it.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:58:58 UTC No. 16246468
>>16244987
inedibility explains the persistence of the horseshoe crab.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:33:02 UTC No. 16246585
>>16240358
>Humans are predators
If they cause so much damage to their niche doesn't that make them parasites?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:38:20 UTC No. 16246590
>>16246585
>hrmm, the wolf could not exist without eating the deer.
>the wolves are parasitic upon the deer
I guess technically, but that's clearly not a useful distinction if you apply the term so broadly.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:14:22 UTC No. 16246624
>>16246590
>Wolf eats deer
>Wolf population is limited by winter. When wolf population dwindles, deer population recovers and new wolves can eat new deer
>e.coli eats nitrogen in piss
>e. coli eats all the piss it could ever wish for in your kidneys
>e. coli starts damaging kidneys past the tipping point, kidney starts making less piss
>the failure of the pissing system causes uremia and a very sick person
>e.coli is aware it now can eat nitrogen in blood, all the nitrogen it could ever wish for
>e.coli sepsis make the host die
>e.coli dies along the host after a while
>retard will argue e.coli is a predator
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:22:07 UTC No. 16246632
>>16246624
>>strawman
>Ha, gotcha!
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:42:18 UTC No. 16246650
>>16246632
>le strawman strawman
Humans are parasites. All obstacles in the system can be overcome so the system will enter irreversible failure.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:44:57 UTC No. 16246654
>>16246650
What are humans parasites to?
"Nature" is not an organism, before you answer.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:52:49 UTC No. 16246662
>>16246654
>nature is not an organism
What is a bacteria a parasite to? A cell? A tissue? An organ? A system? an individual?
What are sponges, are they individuals or are they colonies? Are HeLa cells colonies or individuals since they reproduce freely in cultures? or are they "things" because their niche is sustained by the behavior of another animal?
If we call parasite a population that destabilizes its own niche, then humans are parasites. If you feel offended by it and want to draw semantics at "population that 'harms' a single individual" then there is nothing to call humans because we are a population that destabilizes all other populations and its niche, and there is no name for that.
So what is it, do you feel hurt when I call you a parasite?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:54:28 UTC No. 16246666
>>16246662
Bacteria are traditionally classified as infections and not parasites.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:56:20 UTC No. 16246668
>>16246654
The biosphere can be considered to be an organism
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:00:03 UTC No. 16246677
>>16246668
In what way do you classify an organism that a biosphere can be considered one? I feel the only way to accomplish this is to generalize the term into meaninglessness
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:04:37 UTC No. 16246687
>>16246677
It is a self-perpetuating metabolic process that cycles all of its parts to maintain its continued existence by using free energy in the environment, e.g. solar radiation
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:06:29 UTC No. 16246692
>>16246687
Humans are basically a cancer of the biosphere that are slowly cannibalizing its ability to self-perpetuate. People are essentially metastatic now. The obvious analogy is organ failure from metastasized tumors and that's what humans are doing to the biosphere
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:10:00 UTC No. 16246698
>>16246692
Cancer is a type of parasite. Cancer cells can be considered human subspecies. Parasitism is the type of relationship an organism has with another. The cancer will try to survive at the cost of its niche.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:10:46 UTC No. 16246700
>>16246687
So you argue that the biosphere is metabolic?
Can you point to the metabolism of nature?
As far as I can see, nature is a loose concept that just means "stuff humans didn't make," which is most things.
Is there a metabolism to convection currents?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:13:22 UTC No. 16246703
>>16246700
Did you miss the class where they taught levels of organization in highschool? This is no place to be asking stupid questions honestly.
>Is there a metabolism to convection currents
Yes.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:15:33 UTC No. 16246708
>>16246698
This is true. Cancer is parasitic
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:16:18 UTC No. 16246710
>>16246703
If everything has a metabolism, then it is without meaning. There's a reason a metabolism is a specific thing that's required for something to be considered "alive," rather than just being thrown around willy-nilly.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:18:32 UTC No. 16246716
>>16246700
Convection currents are part of biosphere's metabolism. Humans are not separated from nature, we can not exist in a vacuum and require all of the other support systems of nature. The human body is an ecology within the larger biospheric metabolism
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:19:01 UTC No. 16246718
>>16246716
>words are without meaning
Very interesting argument.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:19:48 UTC No. 16246719
>>16246710
The biosphere is alive because the calcium in your bones are part of the carbon cycle. You can not live in space because space is not alive but the planet is
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:20:52 UTC No. 16246721
>>16246718
Some people have small minds and are not capable of understanding what it means to live. Mars is a dead planet because it has no metabolic cycles to support life
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:23:40 UTC No. 16246723
>>16246719
>>16246721
Being habitable is not a requirement to be alive.
Can nature reproduce? No.
Can an animal? Yes.
Can nature respond to stimuli? No.
Can a cell? Yes.
Can nature grow? No.
Can a plant? Yes.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:25:16 UTC No. 16246724
>>16246723
Small minds like yours will have to cycle through the biospheric loops a few more times before you can understand what I am saying
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:26:30 UTC No. 16246728
>>16246724
The /x/ crossover is always very annoying.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:27:28 UTC No. 16246732
>>16246728
This is all very basic science but you are like a child and not capable of understanding the wisdom being offered to you
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:28:38 UTC No. 16246735
>>16246723
>Can nature reproduce? No.
What is terraforming
>Can nature respond to stimuli? No.
What are asteroid impacts
>Can nature grow? No.
What is space colonization
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:28:46 UTC No. 16246736
>>16246732
Go live in your 14th dimensional double-septatesseract.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:30:32 UTC No. 16246738
>>16246736
I do live in a high dimensional space because I have achieved enlightenment. I offer you wisdom that is necessary for your continued existence but unless your kind accepts it you will not be able to continue existing. To oppose nature is to fundamentally oppose your creator
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:31:29 UTC No. 16246739
>>16246735
>What is terraforming
Where is nature's decedent? No where.
>What are asteroid impacts
Where is nature's reaction? No where.
>What is space colonization
Where is nature's growth? No where.
Things doing stuff IN nature is not nature doing stuff on its own.
>>16246738
>>>/x/
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:33:04 UTC No. 16246742
>>16246739
This is all basic science. Everything I've posted in this thread follows logically from everything taught to children in grade school about nature and its cycles
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:34:41 UTC No. 16246744
>>16246742
I understand that you only got up to 5th grade biology, so I'm sorry to have to break it to you; your malformed ideas don't represent reality or biology.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:35:58 UTC No. 16246747
>>16246744
This is why I called you a child. You have much growing to do yet but unless you accept being part of nature the only ends you will achieve will be your own destruction
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:36:40 UTC No. 16246749
>>16246747
You don't understand dimensionality, you don't understand biology, and you don't understand >>>/x/ is a different board.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:37:11 UTC No. 16246751
>>16246749
Everything I have posted is basic and elementary science
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:38:20 UTC No. 16246754
>>16246751
>I do live in a high dimensional space
Mhm
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:39:02 UTC No. 16246755
>>16246754
Latest physical theories are based on high dimensional manifolds and their dynamical evolution
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:40:09 UTC No. 16246757
>>16246755
They're not theories, they're hypothesis. If they were theories they'd have positive measurable evidence, but currently they do not.
String hypothesists are as confirmed as the multiverse meme.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:41:18 UTC No. 16246762
>>16246757
Like an emotionally stunted child you draw distinctions where none exist. Theories are all hypothetical
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:42:24 UTC No. 16246765
>>16246762
That is not the scientific definition of a theory. >>>/x/
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:43:16 UTC No. 16246767
>>16246765
Science is just a set of theories about reality. All of it is hypocritical
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:48:19 UTC No. 16246773
>>16246739
If it hadn't been human those who developed sapience, it would have been parrots or octopi. Those would be in our place by now. And maybe that would have been more beneficial to the biosphere since it wouldn't have been warring chimps doing it.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:49:07 UTC No. 16246776
>>16246773
Ok.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:37:48 UTC No. 16247002
>>16240360
Vegans really do look like this thoughever
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 07:08:05 UTC No. 16247028
>>16240358
>Homo techne
Science fiction is that way:
>>>/lit/
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:46:13 UTC No. 16247276
humans used to be predators
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:48:01 UTC No. 16247329
>>16240360
humans evolved front-facing eyes because our ancestors were arboreal frugivores, not predators.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:03:22 UTC No. 16247358
>>16240358
>propose an unfalsifiable hypothesis
>circular reasoning
>lulz
Quality thread.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:02:19 UTC No. 16247579
>>16247028
It is a scientific classification of modern humans
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:03:22 UTC No. 16247582
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:13:47 UTC No. 16247617
>>16240358
We're a lot of things. We can do predation, but we can also do other shit. Adaptability is king.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:40:10 UTC No. 16247653
>>16247617
What other things?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:48:03 UTC No. 16247676
>>16247582
That's exactly what you're doing because when you see that all life must consume other life to survive and reproduce then you understand that all life forms are more or less predatory such that the word ''predator'' becomes synonymous to ''what I don't like''.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:57:58 UTC No. 16247691
>>16247676
You should not project your own inadequacies and misunderstanding on other people. Humans are predators, that's a basic fact
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:33:04 UTC No. 16247757
>>16247579
>It is a scientific classification of modern humans
no it's not. Quit the bullshit right there.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:46:06 UTC No. 16247782
>>16247691
>Humans are predators, that's a basic fact
A fact is when a clearly defined expectation is confirmed by observation. You still need to define what a predator is and what observation confirms that a human is a predator. You obviously find that very difficult so I will help you:
>a predator eats meat
>a human who eats meat is therefore a predator
>a predator is a life form that benefits at the cost of another life dorm
>a human who benefits at the cost of another human, animal and/or plant is therefore a predator
From these common definitions it's painfully obvious that not all humans are predators everywhere all the time.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 17:50:07 UTC No. 16247800
>>16246692
>muh suicidal death cult rhetoric
if you hate humans so much why haven't you killed yourself yet?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 18:01:54 UTC No. 16247825
>>16247800
Because pessismists, misanthropes, antinatalists and the like are in denial that they want to genocide the human race. The difference between such people and the likes of Hitler is that they want to achieve their goal through mental rather than physical ways.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:13:16 UTC No. 16248025
>>16247757
It is
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:14:17 UTC No. 16248028
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:16:08 UTC No. 16248035
>>16247800
i am simply stating basic facts. whether i kill myself or not makes no difference to the human cancer. by definition, a cancer does not care about anything other than its own self-propagating at the expense of everything else, including the host that sustains its ability to self-perpetuate. if you think that's hateful then it's because you implicitly identify yourself with the cancer and want the cancer to continue self-replicating unimpeded
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:18:53 UTC No. 16248044
>>16247825
i am not any of those things. if you think my speech is pessimistic, misantrhopic, and anti-natalist it is because you perceive it to be that way. you could simply provide a counter-argument but instead you project hatred onto the person who is simply speaking the truth that you wish to hide from your own cancerous consciousness. you know cancer is bad but instead of accepting the reality you project your cognitive dissonance onto a "scapegoat" and tell them to kill themselves. that's exactly what cancer would do so it's fine if you identify yourself with the cancerous mass of humanity but you should admit to yourself that is what you're doing and the inevitable endpoint is self-terminating of all life
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:24:32 UTC No. 16248056
>>16247825
the human race will genocide itself and it is already well underway to doing so
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:46:09 UTC No. 16249149
>>16247329
If by that you mean predatory omnivores, then sure
>>16248025
Quality bants on the edge of my pleated seats
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 14:33:02 UTC No. 16249205
>>16248044
>you could simply provide a counter-argument
I've already done so here:
>>16247782
Such argument flies completely over your head as exemplified here:
>>16248056
A prime example of complete lunacy. Who invented plastic? You? Me? Who failed to research, prevent or at least limit the consequences of plastic use? You? Me? Who produces plastic now? You? Me? Who failed to educate people about the consequences of plastic use? You? Me? Who replaced paper bags and glass bottles and gave the consumer no choice but to use plastic? You? Me? And so on.
Yet you keep repeating like a broken record that all humans not only do bad things but ARE bad, like irredeemable since the day they were born. Sinful. Ignorant. And then you dare to deny that you are
>pessimistic, misantrhopic, and anti-natalist
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:45:17 UTC No. 16249511
>>16249205
You can not deny basic facts. The human collective is cancerous and will continue to destroy the environment and eventually itself. These are all basic facts
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:49:45 UTC No. 16249520
>>16249511
>human collective
(((retard)))
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:04:38 UTC No. 16249538
>>16249520
You operate within a system supported by a collective. The internet is a collective enterprise. Fossil fuel extraction is a collective enterprise. Modern technology is a collective enterprise. Basic facts
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 06:50:38 UTC No. 16250450
>>16249511
why haven't you killed yourself to save the environment?
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:25:55 UTC No. 16250468
>>16247825
>>16247825
>>16247825
>Because wrongthinkers, wrongthinkers, wrongthinkers and the like
Its so tiresome, people like you are literal vermin.
>the human race.
You and your subhuman and inhuman kind are not human and will never be human, you have more common with filthy wild animals and machines than with humans.
And individual is not same as collective, literal retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:28:18 UTC No. 16250471
>>16249205
>A prime example of complete wrongthink.
Calm down and shut the fuck up, no one asked you, faggot.
>???????????????
Have you, ever heard of commas, retard?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 07:29:19 UTC No. 16250473
>>16247825
>Because wrongthinkers, wrongthinkers, wrongthinkers and the like
Its so tiresome, people like you are literal vermin.
>the human race.
You and your subhuman and inhuman kind are not human and will never be human, you have more common with filthy wild animals and machines than with humans.
And individual is not same as collective, literal retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:43:20 UTC No. 16250579
>>16250450
if i'm dead then i can't use my genius to accelerate the inevitable self-termination of the cancer known as humanity. the longer i stay alive the more i can help the environment by accelerating the termination of the cancer
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:52:05 UTC No. 16250585
>>16250579
so you're saying that environmentalism is an anti human death cult for people with narcissistic personality disorder
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:55:09 UTC No. 16250589
>>16250579
>accelerate the inevitable self-termination
>not genocidal
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 00:10:13 UTC No. 16251917
>>16250585
Part of narcissistic personality disorder that those with the disorder are incapable of recognizing their own personality disorder
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:41:00 UTC No. 16253032
>>16250450
>everyone else must suffer so that I may thrive
why are environmentalists all so greedy and selfish?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:44:29 UTC No. 16254334
>>16240358
>this should be obvious to anyone with half a brain
50% of all people are below 100IQ
50% of all people posting on /sci/ are below 100IQ
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 03:28:04 UTC No. 16255971
>>16240358
All dietfaggotry posters are glowniggers. This is obvious to anyone with a brain. Pic related, OP's office.