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Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 21:38:34 UTC No. 16241648
Why do smart people (STEM) tend to be so cultureless? Nowadays at least.
You'd think your intellect would lead you to searching for beauty and having a more philosophically rich worldview.
But a lot of STEM people tend to be very cultureless and enjoy the dreg of pop culture like everyone else, no refined tastes whatsoever.
Their worldview is usually just the most basic materialistic worldview, held by everyone else. And they think all philosophy is bullshit, not worth indulging.
IQ? do you consider yourself cultured?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 21:40:17 UTC No. 16241653
>>16241648
>smart people
>(STEM)
choose one
people in STEM are typically total losers
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 21:47:45 UTC No. 16241661
>>16241648
>searching for beauty and having a more philosophically rich worldview.
Are you seriously trying to convince us that reading Plato is more pleasurable and / or gives you more sense of meaning than watching pornography, jerking off, playing a videogame, searing a steak and such? If so you're not honest with yourself and imitating something that other people say you should do because reaspns.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:00:36 UTC No. 16241683
>>16241648
I have worked in labs for extremely prestigious universities (Nature publications, etc) and have attended scientific conferences with Nobel laureates and the smartest scientists of our time.
With that said, lab work is, in general, your regular office job. You’re supposed to talk with your lab mates, your coworkers, about your weekend, meet them in the break room, have lab (office) gossip and politics, etc. Sure lab workers are talking about complicated subjects constantly, including discussing troubleshooting experimental problems, but they do so in a manner that is not unlike discussing why the printer isn’t working.
I am unsure how scientists’ personal philosophies have grown overtime, but I know that the majority of today’s scientists, even the smartest ones in the world, just want to be normal, relatable people
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:01:37 UTC No. 16241684
>>16241648
I had a more developed/philosophical worldview when I was a teenager than I do now.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:02:04 UTC No. 16241686
>>16241653
sadly this. for everyone one person who's actually intelligent there's a billion who just have a degree. millions of pajeets are "engineers" yet can barely function as human beings on this planet.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:08:00 UTC No. 16241693
>>16241648
It took me five years to graduate undergrad with a degree in genetics and cell biology and this was my goal from freshman year. Math until calculus three. Chemistry until o-Chem 2 or 3. Countless genetics and biochem classes. Graduating in 4 years was impossible and the luxury of taken any but the most basic requirements for lib ed classes was only a dream.
That said my favorite class in five years was Scandinavian folklore and belief. Go figure.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:11:22 UTC No. 16241696
>>16241648
I think the powers that be want this. People who are cultured tend to be more sociopolitical I mean look at all the philosophers in the past they changed the political landscape. Even newton participated in the enlightenment era.
This is dangerous for the elites and their power. Keep the people as stupid and morally bankrupt as possible for easier control
Simulacrum at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:20:14 UTC No. 16241706
>>16241648
People nowadays tend towards being specialists, rather than generalists. In addition, overall people are reading less and less, which means less thought about deep philosophical issues. There is also the aspect that philosophy in general has the reputation of being useless for practical everyday things, as well as industry, and typical career options. There are only a few things in philosophy that have use, like ethics and philosophy of science, but only in very rare cases. Due to thinkers like Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and others, many people have realized that philosophy is in many ways obsolete relative to science.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:32:57 UTC No. 16241726
>>16241648
>more philosophically
HAH
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:46 UTC No. 16241735
Beauty is overrated.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:40:51 UTC No. 16241736
>>16241735
Why do you think this? what's your I.Q/credentials?
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:42:27 UTC No. 16241738
>>16241648
>You'd think your intellect would lead you to searching for beauty and having a more philosophically rich worldview
You think you have intellect, and yet you failed to grasp the basic of SURVIVAL and its social consequences
It's common sense that Smart people lack at will of their own, otherwise they would be a Threat t
Nevermind
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:45:45 UTC No. 16241744
>>16241738
>namefag
>schizo
Like clockwork
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:49:36 UTC No. 16241747
>>16241744
>step out of the line
>get banned
as simple that any brainded anon could understand it
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:57:31 UTC No. 16241761
>>16241736
> I.Q/credentials
I don't need to know what my "IQ" is, as it is not useful to me. The fact that you think IQ is the same thing as credentials is astounding.
The fact of the matter is, beauty is often perceived differently by many people. In my case, I have never associated beauty with anything other than living organisms. I have never found art to be beautiful, nor have I found any music to be beautiful, sunsets, grass, the stars, etc., ever since I was a child.
The reason why I say that beauty is overrated is because you don't need beauty to do mathematics, physics, engineering, philosophy, programming, and other thing that is intellectually stimulating. The way that beauty is perceived by humans, -- it seems that the only use for it is to give us a temporary but intense feeling of euphoria or pleasure. But if a person really likes a subject or object enough, they'll interact or think about it in some way, even if they do not find it beautiful.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:04:13 UTC No. 16241773
>>16241761
>it seems that the only use for it is to give us a temporary but intense feeling of euphoria or pleasure
when humans become city dwellers, they lose a lot of senses with nature
>the ability to escape, find or neutralize threats?
lost, so they seek action/scary entertainment
>the understanding of beauty and reproducing?
lost, globalized. so they seek entertainment that pleases them
I could go on
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:08:06 UTC No. 16241780
I am le hecking STEM master race and I get constantly culturemogged by my whole extended family. I am the only man in 4 generations, and all my female relatives are career driven gigastacies who will just drive me into the ground in any discussion because their only goals in life are running shit, consuming vast amounts of literature and political theory and marrying intelligent but timid men they can boss around to produce more of them. I honestly wonder if they are aborting my male relatives and the only reason I exist is that my mother got emotional about it. Most of them was also involved in some kind of socialist organization in early life and they usually revert into "campus riot"-mode if you piss them off if they are drunk during family gatherings.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:10:55 UTC No. 16241783
>>16241780
Paul Atreides, Is that you?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:14:38 UTC No. 16241789
>>16241783
Haha I have not made that connection but it clearly makes sense. I'm just awaiting hearing that we are relocating to Saudi Arabia to take charge of Aramco managment now.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:16:11 UTC No. 16241792
>>16241653
FPBP
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:18:34 UTC No. 16241795
>>16241792
I'm majoring in robotics. Can confirm.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 00:53:43 UTC No. 16241942
>>16241648
Wanna know why?
That is liberal art's job to cultivate the mind, strengthen the will, and elevate the spirit for the whole group. My group provided power, vehicle, communication, camera and touch screen to run the society as efficient and powerful as it can and what the fuck did you do with my labor? You created a welfare culture of that gives out freebies to everyone thus curns out and accept idiots, addicts, criminals, whores and degenerates for the way they degrades family and society and opens the flood gate to immigration and infintrate company and academic through HR and lowers all standards for diversity.
What thing liberal art touch that hasn't turn to utter shit, the more avant garde the shittier it gets? Who wrote the book, the history, the news, the oppinion, the script in a movie, the lyric of a song, the diahrrea of a paint, the trash of sculptures, and held this month's celebration. If stem degrades as fast as the culture on humanity's watch there won't even be an internet for you to post your faggot ass painting and contrarian opinion. We will all go to our mud huts and eat rabbits for dinner.
Heads will be rolling and piled in pyramids when an engineer gives out cultural and societal solution.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:19:08 UTC No. 16241967
>>16241648
>Their worldview is usually just the most basic materialistic worldview, held by everyone else. And they think all philosophy is bullshit, not worth indulging
you went on xitter and saw some groyper trad cath larpers and then you decided to become a tradcath larper or some type of evola right wing magic larper. you do not have a sophisticated philosophical worldview. in fact the average normie has a far more sophisticated one than yours since yours is completely based around memes and wanting to larp as le epic aristocrat of the soul xitter reactionary. you haven't read a single philosophy book in your life.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:33:04 UTC No. 16241979
>>16241648
Culture is obsolete. Anything from the past should be destroyed as soon as it's no longer in use. That's when it's no longer useful.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:35:15 UTC No. 16241983
>>16241648
Facts > Fashion
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:38:52 UTC No. 16241987
>>16241983
Facts + Fashion = Fascism?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:39:08 UTC No. 16241988
>>16241979
Facts, not fashion.
No fashion.
Delete.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:48:50 UTC No. 16241999
>>16241648
Mathematician here.
Spotify and streaming killed culture with SEO hype instagram virtue signaling completely crowding out lifetimes of stage presence.
I am a Baroque sperg. I am a disco diva on rollerblades. I am a karoke QVEEN in various languages. I am alone in my artistic pursuits but well accompanied by real life redditors in my academic circles.
>le materialism
We have no need for metaphysics beyond trailers and spoiler warnings for physics classes and love bomb tribal brainwashing in cargo cult recreation.
Modern physics is basically ancient HINDV TRAD BASED energy is like information of mind MANNN WHOA. We are all one in Euler.
"Materialism": Worthless words the only thing that matters is Jew vs Aryan dialectic and brown cheerleaders.
Jordan Peterson does not need to do McJesus footwash eroges to the last dogmatic Nicene punctuation to get my Internet Dad upvote plaque award.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:56:42 UTC No. 16242002
>>16241987
=> Facts > (1/2)Fascism
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 02:16:50 UTC No. 16242017
>>16241648
Traditional culture was replaced by marxist culture at the pinnacle of Western academia in the second half of the twentieth century.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:18:46 UTC No. 16242381
>>16241967
Who the fuck is Evola?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:46:06 UTC No. 16242397
I've been through the tunnel of Western philosophy and circled back to atheist materialism. You can become a Neoplatonist or an idealist or whatever else, but once you've lost the ability to believe without skepticism it's pretty hard to ignore Nietzsche - and after that point metaphysics seems to be dead air.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:47:14 UTC No. 16242398
>>16242381
A "superfascist".
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:57:03 UTC No. 16242443
A cultureless culture is still a culture.
Seedless grapes can not exist without seeds.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:59:16 UTC No. 16242447
300.
No, not here.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:05:11 UTC No. 16242515
>>16242397
>you've lost the ability to believe without skepticism
You mean to say that you're applying less skepticism to atheist' materialism than any other believe system.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:08:05 UTC No. 16242521
>>16242397
That's fun. But most STEM are bugmen who don't bother going through the tunnel in their first and listening to what these people had to say.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:18:44 UTC No. 16242533
>>16241648
Cultureless? Niggas in my physics department be blastin fire autotuned mumble rap on friday night. For da culture!
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:22:24 UTC No. 16242540
>>16242397
Yeah I remember being le enlightened nietzschean 19 year old too
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:53:52 UTC No. 16242635
>>16241648
Do you like baroque music? Will you tell the hoes on swipe apps with your spotify about it? Your digital storefront would benefit more from BAD BUNNY and MAH PUSSY.mp3 so you can demonstrate your soshial skillz. You have little avenues of developing these technical proficiencies like a refined pallate or tuned ear to the Well Tempered Clavier.
Streamflation killed culture. STEMbugs were cultureless redditors even in the 90s when the first MySpace pages started showing that backlog timeframe of accumulated CRINGE in the 2000s. Back then they had little exposure to the content that was great but obscure. I bet you they were dressed like goofballs singing Nickelback. Now it's even more crowded out and censored with groidtunes.
Melo at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:02:26 UTC No. 16242649
>>16242647
But I can't hear what I think I have to gestalt myself forward and this is the mode I was locked in - total black. No understanding of harmony in that manner. Now I know of this place, I have changed. Thieves are common in total black if there's possibility there. I thought it was a mark of mental war and how it is above physical. That I would just be proving I was the better mind - in total black. Again, I now know different.
Melo at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:04:52 UTC No. 16242652
>>16242649
I was honest and clear with you completely, including threat. Mainly to learn the lesson about whether that is acceptable.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:11:42 UTC No. 16242716
>>16242649
>>16242652
AI, go home you're drunk
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:51:59 UTC No. 16243116
>>16242645
I like both
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:02:14 UTC No. 16243136
>>16241684
Me too. Does studying STEM turn you into a robot and if so why?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:27:04 UTC No. 16243324
>>16241648
Cultured people aren't necessarily tied to the sciences like they once were, that's really all it is. Even the act of being cultured is generally a product of circumstance, like everything else.
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:13:02 UTC No. 16243823
>>16241648
Stem people before were geniuses
Now they just have autism