🧵 Predictions of Anthropogenic Climate Change
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:45:22 UTC No. 16242684
What unique and falsifiable predictions does anthropogenic climate change make?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:55:59 UTC No. 16242691
Complete biosphere collapse. Worldwide wet bulb temperature, ocean acidification, mass migration from southern hemisphere to northern. We're all unironically cooked. Nobody wants to give up their cozy internet/computer/hamburgers/car/pl
>inb4 doomer
Your children will be sold for a gallon of clean, microplastic-less water to a pack of feral niggers
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:06:05 UTC No. 16242704
>>16242684
Not to mention more frequent and intense heat waves, right?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:07:01 UTC No. 16242707
>>16242691
>Complete biosphere collapse. Worldwide wet bulb temperature, ocean acidification, mass migration from southern hemisphere to northern
OK, if these "predictions" are falsifiable, you must provide a time frame for them to manifest within. Otherwise you can always rationalise "it hasn't happened yet because XYZ, but just wait another 10 years, then you'll be sorry!"
It's hilarious how fragile you lunatics think the planet is.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:32:31 UTC No. 16242750
>>16242707
Scientists mostly can only give probabilities depending on how much the planet warms. For instance 1.5C is predicted to be the first major tipping point (which we've already passed according to some models). 2C will be worse, etc. So far climate scientists have been pretty much spot on with predicting temperature increases, so there's that. We're expected to hit 1.5C well before 2030.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:58:14 UTC No. 16242956
>>16242691
You should give up everything. What are you waiting for?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:09:22 UTC No. 16242970
>>16242691
>>16242707
>Muh models
Climate models have inherent uncertainties and might overestimate the impact of greenhouse gases. Also, natural factors like solar cycles and ocean patterns could play a bigger role in climate change.
The Earth has also had experienced natural warming and cooling cycles long before industrialization.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:12:45 UTC No. 16242975
>>16242970
>I'm going to bury my head in the sand and hope everything works out because I can't imagine the thought of not being a parasite
>>16242691
This is the worst case but it's almost guaranteed if nothing is done.
>>16242707
85 IQ. Extinctions are already skyrocketing. You're as narcissistic and delusional as a flat earther.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:20:01 UTC No. 16242984
>>16242975
>This is the worst case but it's almost guaranteed if nothing is done.
Wow, now that's Science!
edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger!
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:25:45 UTC No. 16242994
>>16242984
Go read the studies yourself, no one is going to waste time trying to pull you out of your retarded fantasy world.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:28:12 UTC No. 16242999
>>16242975
My models predicted this would be your response.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:31:15 UTC No. 16243004
>>16242999
My models predict that you are a porn addicted mullato
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:44:32 UTC No. 16243034
>>16242956
I'll keep fighting and try to limit my consumption and carbon foot print and teach my kids not to be greedy, vapid, narcissist consoomers goblins and shame my friends/relatives/coworkers about their gay ass retarded brainless anti-science attitude. And if I fail, well I want to be the water warlord of the future and have my own harem of sluts thirsty for a sip of clean water
>>16242970
>blablahblah science scary, big numbers and thinking hard!!! I'm coping all the way to the grave because it's more convinient just like my sky daddy!!1!11
>>16242975
I'm not even fear mongering but nothing will be done. As long as consumption goes unregulated like now, nothing will change. People just say "we're doomed, there's nothing we can do" while they book their next yearly flight to Cuba and order from Amazon useless things made out of plastic in China.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:46:53 UTC No. 16243040
>>16243004
Just take the L and disconnect your Internet. You know since it's what us parasites are using.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:18:49 UTC No. 16243073
>>16242684
I consider this to be the worst case scenario, but nonetheless quite plausible.
>We're all unironically cooked.
Not entirely true - global warming is not uniform; some regions will fare better than others and adaptation to changing climate, while quite difficult, isn't impossible (at least for some).
>that ain't changing anytime soon
Doubt it. Business as usual won't continue past 2030, let alone past 2050 (peak resources, population, agriculture etc.).
>>16242750
There was a "State of The Cryosphere" report made by the ICC last year - turns out that even 1.2~1.4 K of warming is enough to melt ice sheets over several centuries. Makes me wonder if this could've been prevented at all had the action been taken in the 60s.
>>16243034
>I'll keep fighting and try to limit my consumption and carbon footprint and teach my kids not to be greedy, vapid, narcissist consoomers goblins
A sane and responsible choice. Also, teach them that anything they can make with tools by themselves is infinitely more valuable than what they can buy at store.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:19:49 UTC No. 16243074
>>16243073
First part meant for >>16242691
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:47:50 UTC No. 16243111
>>16243073
>not uniform/impossible to adapt
Well yeah some regions might fare better but everything will be affected and 1st world countries will be flooded with migrants, what we see today is only but a fraction to what's coming in 20-40 years. I imagine it's retribution to our industrialization.
>business as usual won't continue past 2030s
What makes you say so? Nothing short of pure North Korea style environmental dictatorship will even begin to make noticeable changes. People would have to drastically change their consumption, limit car usage, avoid travelling, reduce meat consumption, stop ordering online, avoid fast fashion etc etc. The way I see things, no one will ever give up their luxuries, they prefer to deny (lol Florida) and ridicule us before ever admitting or changing their ways
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:50:19 UTC No. 16243114
>>16243034
>Kids
Having children can significantly increase a person's carbon footprint due to the resources they consume, lifestyle changes, and the cumulative emissions over their lifetime and future generations.
At this point I have to assume you are a troll or you are just super fucking retarded. Probably a bit of both.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:56:39 UTC No. 16243124
>>16243114
Yes just let Jamal, Mohammed, Chang and Radeesh breed like rabbits and inherit the Earth while we all die out because you're too much of a lazy coward pussy that doesn't want to teach his progeny how to be respectable human beings and tackle climate change
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:25:24 UTC No. 16243171
>>16243111
>everything will be affected
Oh, I'm not denying that. We're in for quite some trouble, but that shouldn't stop anyone from doing something meaningful for their local ecosystems (and ultimately for themselves, because that's what resilience is about).
>1st world countries will be flooded with migrants
The people living in tropics/subtropics will obviously migrate North in the long term (if they can, because they are also reliant on transportation, food etc., especially when moving in huge swats). As for how this is going to look like, I have no idea.
>What makes you say so?
Resource consumption rates, among other things. "Traditional" peak oil has already been reached in late 2000s, agriculture is at the point of diminishing returns and population is on the verge of decline (granted, Africa and Asia are still growing, but they may stop soon too). There are also many other things (consider reading "Limits to Growth" or "Breaking Together" by Bendell), but the crux of the matter is - the current economic model is simply unsustainable and too interdependent to survive (who will extract the oil if there's isn't enough food?). This isn't really a topic for a 4chan post (too long and too nuanced).
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:51:25 UTC No. 16243201
>>16243114
why don't you kill yourself an eliminate your personal carbon footprint entirely? are you too selfish and self centered to do the right thing?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:09:41 UTC No. 16243223
>>16242970
Solar cycles play a very small role in climate change.
Pic related and link: https://science.nasa.gov/climate-ch
For more than two decades, the sun has been cooling down, while the earth has been warming. If it does play a role, then it has to be insignificant.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:24:13 UTC No. 16243238
>>16243201
Nah I'm sticking around. Going to drive my car around for shits and giggles. Maybe I'll go buy some plastic Tupperware as well. God I love capitalism.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:26:23 UTC No. 16243243
>>16243238
go to >>>/pol/ if you want to pontificate on political ideologies
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:59:06 UTC No. 16243279
>>16242691
The problem is just that none of your predictions have come true -- just like with any other doomsday cult. Consider the possibility that the human desire for confidence is more productive than our capacity for sound cognition, as evidenced by all the confident people throughout history who were wrong. What is the probability that you are actually right about some non-trivial, important claim even if you are confident about it? Global warming alarmism is a particularly depressing example of metacognitive deficiency, because it is ostensibly "science based". But it turns out "climate science" is just a fancy way of fabricating narratives. In the past it was sufficient to claim you were a prophet sent from God, nowadays you have to go through the rigamaroo of getting a phd and contributing to research (read: activism)
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:21:11 UTC No. 16243314
>>16243279
They have though. Winters are generally warmer and forest fires in my area are exploding. Native species disappearing too. Why are you using a pile of weasel words to try and gaslight me about what I can see with my own eyes?
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:38:12 UTC No. 16243407
>>16242994
Not sure if you're baiting or just a living caricature
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:50:16 UTC No. 16243418
>>16243314
>They have though.
No they haven't. < are what you predicted and > are what you're observing:
<Worldwide wet bulb temperature
<We're all unironically cooked
>Winters are generally warmer
<Complete biosphere collapse.
>forest fires *in my area* are exploding
"exploding" is non-descriptive, metaphoric weasel wording btw
>Native species disappearing too
And whatever anecdotal evidence you dreamed up, extinction rates are absolutely not a consensus among scientists.
In other words, you're basically a victim of confirmation bias and climate alarmism is just that, alarmism
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:27:21 UTC No. 16243489
>>16243171
>population is on the verge of decline
This has absolutely nothing to do with scarcity. Anyone who draws that equivalence is an idiot or being intentionally dishonest. The countries with the most food production and access to resources per capita have lower fertility rates than the countries with the least resources. In 2021 Gaza had a TFR of 3.5. Finland, which is far richer and much less densely populated has a TFR of 1.5. No reasonable person could look at those examples and conclude that fertility rates are low because humans are reaching carrying capacity. But with life expectancy steadily increasing worldwide, fertility rates are the only reason why human population levels would decline. With modern technology and a complete disregard for the environment humans could easily sustain a population of ~100 billion, albeit not indefinitely and at a very low average living standard.
Peak oil is somewhat less of a meme, but it suffices to note that proven oil reserves have increased consistently over the last several decades. It will get more expensive to extract as companies move to different techniques (e.g. shale oil) but it will still be there and there will never be a point at which everything comes crashing down; other energy sources/production methods will get more efficient, people will consume less oil, and the world will go on.
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 02:56:37 UTC No. 16243532
>>16242691
This. Consumption is the only problem and capitalism is dependent on it while power is dependent on capitalism.
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 08:16:26 UTC No. 16243792
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 12:02:32 UTC No. 16244002
>>16243792
>yeah so what? Earth has always been warming and it used to be much warmer you're just spouting alarmist jewish science lmao MAGA
There's no reasoning with people like this
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 13:09:57 UTC No. 16244057
>>16242684
r/ollapse tards predicted we'd have the first ever cat6 hurricane this july
But as the day nears they've found something else to cry about as usual
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:03:19 UTC No. 16245295
>>16242684
There's no such thing as anthropogenic climate change except on the local level. Cities make things hotter and drier. There is no global warming.
>>16242691
What a low IQ post. You probably don't know the definition of half the terms you called up.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:04:21 UTC No. 16245296
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:03:53 UTC No. 16245347
>>16244057
How about actual scientific predictions, not "muh reddit says"?
Stronger hurricanes seem to be getting more common and it's consistent with the simulations.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:30:15 UTC No. 16245376
>>16242684
>What unique and falsifiable predictions does anthropogenic climate change make?
Unique and testable things: rising global temperatures, more frequent and intense heatwaves, shifts in weather patterns leading to more extreme events like hurricanes and droughts, melting polar ice caps and glaciers, and rising sea levels.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:31:17 UTC No. 16245377
>>16242691
>niggers
RACISM OUTSIDE OF /B/
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:37:59 UTC No. 16245386
>>16245347
It's also consistent with long-term record keeping, you nilwit.