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Anonymous No. 16242723

Why did philosophy fail to keep up with science? Quantum mechanics was discovered more than 100 years ago. Yet philosophers still talk about determinism. How did they not notice it has been disproved?

Anonymous No. 16242733

>>16242723
They are pilot wave enjoyers

Anonymous No. 16242743

>>16242723
>measuring is troublesome
>therefore the smallest scale of the universe is magic
>thus the universe at large is not a cause-effect mechanism
Kys already schizo.

Anonymous No. 16242757

>>16242723
[ ] You understand quantum mechanics
[x] You posted a thread about it acting like you understood it

Anonymous No. 16242766

>>16242723
Why do women behave like that, scientifically speaking?

Anonymous No. 16242773

>>16242766
Why do incels always whine and complain about what other people want to do with their lives?

sage No. 16242781

philosophy does not have a strong foundation. It's hanging on imaginary stairs.

We made up all of it, for it does not exist in a vacuum. That's why it's going nowhere and never will. It's flawed.

Anonymous No. 16242783

>>16242773
Why do retards reply to questions with other questions that are completely unrelated?

Anonymous No. 16242784

Science is a subset of philosophy

So is religion

Anonymous No. 16242788

>>16242723
qm is irrelevant at large scales. big number statistics etc. Philosophy is more important as everything anyone does is instructed by a philosophy

Anonymous No. 16242790

>>16242773
>always whine and complain about what other people want to do with their lives?
we live in a society
social contract
you do your part and i do mine
nowhere in the agreement there is freedom to do x, just things you must do
however you are free to opt out and just leave society. Be free, out of society

Anonymous No. 16242793

>>16242784
Are philosophers the niggers of science, appropriating the achievements of their betters, philosophically speaking?

Anonymous No. 16242814

>>16242793
The opposite actually, there could be no science without the motive force of philosophy

Anonymous No. 16242815

>>16242723
me in the back

Anonymous No. 16242818

>>16242723
QM does not necessarily preclude determinism.

Anonymous No. 16242863

>>16242723
>Copenhagen interpretation
Based retard

Anonymous No. 16242875

>>16242863
how is it an interpretation and not just called a theory?
What, it doesnt work? It works, its a scientific theory because it has objective predictive power. Yes, probability but the probabilities themselves are predictable and they way they change. Probability doesnt mean random
Every other interpretation is the copenhagen interpretation with different dressing, or failed

Anonymous No. 16242896

>>16242875
>its a scientific theory because it has objective predictive power
Anon please read that again and ask yourself whether that's a universally true statement.

Anonymous No. 16242910

>>16242723
They've become useless. Philosophers really are a symbol of the old world, overtaken by science. Based science is ridding mankind of superstition.

Anonymous No. 16242927

>>16242910
>visible matter is moving in constraint ways because it's ruled by invisible mathematics!
>yes we have replaced skydaddy with mathematics
>no mathematics and skydaddy are totally not the same
Do atheists really.

Anonymous No. 16243025

>>16242733
Not even Bohm himself believed in pilot wave.

Anonymous No. 16243026

>>16242757
Two facts
1. Nobody fully understands QM.
2. I understand it better than you.

Anonymous No. 16243031

>>16242784
Science absolutely destroyed philosophy. Philosophy sits on its cuck chair, watching passively while science penetrates metaphysics, epistemology, logic and ethics with its empirically verified huge cock.

Anonymous No. 16243032

>>16242896
I peer reviewed his statement. He's objectively right.

Anonymous No. 16243035

>>16243025
It's the best interpretation.

Anonymous No. 16243037

>>16243035
It gets mogged by von Neumann / Wigner.

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Anonymous No. 16243043

>>16243037
>States pilot wave was rejected by its creator
>Posts an interpretation that was also rejected by its creator

Anonymous No. 16243070

>>16242773
We should have less women in stem

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Anonymous No. 16243077

>>16242723
determinism has not been disproved, and cannot be disproven. in order to disprove determinism, you would have to prove the existence and possibility of counterfactual worlds, which is impossible.

superdeterminism is correct, btw.

Anonymous No. 16243147

>>16242875
>An Interpretation is the same as a theory
Why am I still on this clusterfuck of a board?

Anonymous No. 16243149

>>16243026
2 of those statements are incorrect. Hint: Number 1 is not among them.

Anonymous No. 16243153

Moufs

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Anonymous No. 16243162

>>16242723
Great they are attacking every board with "is coffee good for you?"

Anonymous No. 16243166

>>16242815
He bugged me. If I was him and saw that Iโ€™d do what I do on every escalator and start walking down the stairs, reach her and say excuse me and push my arms to her left and push her out of the way and keep walking. No one has time for that nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16243168

>>16242723
everything is determined by quantum mechanics

Anonymous No. 16243169

>>16242723
Isn't it physicists that talk about determinism still? They all seem to think there is no free will.

Anonymous No. 16243186

>>16242723
>i cant predict something so it cant be predicted
determinism is correct

Anonymous No. 16243269

>>16243169
>he doesn't know about the Conway Kochen free will theorem

Anonymous No. 16243273

>>16243269
No, I don't. Does it suggest there is free will?

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Anonymous No. 16243288

>>16242723
Science is also dying. Theoretical physics hasn't made significant progess in at least half a century. The only thing keeping science alive are technological advancements in solid state physcs.
Science had its heyday in the 20th century, just like philosophy had its own in the 18-19th centuries. The influence of philosophy on culture gradually waned, and the same will happen with science. What comes next is up to the brown masses of the turd world to decide.

Anonymous No. 16243330

>>16242773
You mean like what you're doing?

Anonymous No. 16243332

>>16243031
Science IS philosophy. Fucking retard larpers.
>verification not required

Anonymous No. 16243339

>>16243288
>Theoretical physics hasn't made significant progess
You're basically discouraging the funding and publishing of verified null hypotheses which is equal to encouraging the replication crisis. A historical record of all the things that don't work is an investment with a longterm pay-off.