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Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:17:02 UTC No. 16242723
Why did philosophy fail to keep up with science? Quantum mechanics was discovered more than 100 years ago. Yet philosophers still talk about determinism. How did they not notice it has been disproved?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:22:00 UTC No. 16242733
>>16242723
They are pilot wave enjoyers
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:27:13 UTC No. 16242743
>>16242723
>measuring is troublesome
>therefore the smallest scale of the universe is magic
>thus the universe at large is not a cause-effect mechanism
Kys already schizo.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:37:46 UTC No. 16242757
>>16242723
[ ] You understand quantum mechanics
[x] You posted a thread about it acting like you understood it
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:43:31 UTC No. 16242766
>>16242723
Why do women behave like that, scientifically speaking?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:50:24 UTC No. 16242773
>>16242766
Why do incels always whine and complain about what other people want to do with their lives?
sage at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:55:35 UTC No. 16242781
philosophy does not have a strong foundation. It's hanging on imaginary stairs.
We made up all of it, for it does not exist in a vacuum. That's why it's going nowhere and never will. It's flawed.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:58:25 UTC No. 16242783
>>16242773
Why do retards reply to questions with other questions that are completely unrelated?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:59:37 UTC No. 16242784
Science is a subset of philosophy
So is religion
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:02:46 UTC No. 16242788
>>16242723
qm is irrelevant at large scales. big number statistics etc. Philosophy is more important as everything anyone does is instructed by a philosophy
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:04:53 UTC No. 16242790
>>16242773
>always whine and complain about what other people want to do with their lives?
we live in a society
social contract
you do your part and i do mine
nowhere in the agreement there is freedom to do x, just things you must do
however you are free to opt out and just leave society. Be free, out of society
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:06:26 UTC No. 16242793
>>16242784
Are philosophers the niggers of science, appropriating the achievements of their betters, philosophically speaking?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:20:46 UTC No. 16242814
>>16242793
The opposite actually, there could be no science without the motive force of philosophy
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:21:58 UTC No. 16242815
>>16242723
me in the back
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:24:04 UTC No. 16242818
>>16242723
QM does not necessarily preclude determinism.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:57:05 UTC No. 16242863
>>16242723
>Copenhagen interpretation
Based retard
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:06:55 UTC No. 16242875
>>16242863
how is it an interpretation and not just called a theory?
What, it doesnt work? It works, its a scientific theory because it has objective predictive power. Yes, probability but the probabilities themselves are predictable and they way they change. Probability doesnt mean random
Every other interpretation is the copenhagen interpretation with different dressing, or failed
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:14:04 UTC No. 16242896
>>16242875
>its a scientific theory because it has objective predictive power
Anon please read that again and ask yourself whether that's a universally true statement.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:21:09 UTC No. 16242910
>>16242723
They've become useless. Philosophers really are a symbol of the old world, overtaken by science. Based science is ridding mankind of superstition.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:33:58 UTC No. 16242927
>>16242910
>visible matter is moving in constraint ways because it's ruled by invisible mathematics!
>yes we have replaced skydaddy with mathematics
>no mathematics and skydaddy are totally not the same
Do atheists really.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:39:34 UTC No. 16243025
>>16242733
Not even Bohm himself believed in pilot wave.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:40:42 UTC No. 16243026
>>16242757
Two facts
1. Nobody fully understands QM.
2. I understand it better than you.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:42:17 UTC No. 16243031
>>16242784
Science absolutely destroyed philosophy. Philosophy sits on its cuck chair, watching passively while science penetrates metaphysics, epistemology, logic and ethics with its empirically verified huge cock.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:43:25 UTC No. 16243032
>>16242896
I peer reviewed his statement. He's objectively right.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:44:36 UTC No. 16243035
>>16243025
It's the best interpretation.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:46:10 UTC No. 16243037
>>16243035
It gets mogged by von Neumann / Wigner.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 19:49:40 UTC No. 16243043
>>16243037
>States pilot wave was rejected by its creator
>Posts an interpretation that was also rejected by its creator
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:16:54 UTC No. 16243070
>>16242773
We should have less women in stem
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 20:20:56 UTC No. 16243077
>>16242723
determinism has not been disproved, and cannot be disproven. in order to disprove determinism, you would have to prove the existence and possibility of counterfactual worlds, which is impossible.
superdeterminism is correct, btw.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:07:58 UTC No. 16243147
>>16242875
>An Interpretation is the same as a theory
Why am I still on this clusterfuck of a board?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:09:23 UTC No. 16243149
>>16243026
2 of those statements are incorrect. Hint: Number 1 is not among them.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:10:37 UTC No. 16243153
Moufs
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:19:34 UTC No. 16243162
>>16242723
Great they are attacking every board with "is coffee good for you?"
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:22:50 UTC No. 16243166
>>16242815
He bugged me. If I was him and saw that Iโd do what I do on every escalator and start walking down the stairs, reach her and say excuse me and push my arms to her left and push her out of the way and keep walking. No one has time for that nonsense.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:23:18 UTC No. 16243168
>>16242723
everything is determined by quantum mechanics
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:23:54 UTC No. 16243169
>>16242723
Isn't it physicists that talk about determinism still? They all seem to think there is no free will.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:37:15 UTC No. 16243186
>>16242723
>i cant predict something so it cant be predicted
determinism is correct
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:49:38 UTC No. 16243269
>>16243169
>he doesn't know about the Conway Kochen free will theorem
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:53:12 UTC No. 16243273
>>16243269
No, I don't. Does it suggest there is free will?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:06:00 UTC No. 16243288
>>16242723
Science is also dying. Theoretical physics hasn't made significant progess in at least half a century. The only thing keeping science alive are technological advancements in solid state physcs.
Science had its heyday in the 20th century, just like philosophy had its own in the 18-19th centuries. The influence of philosophy on culture gradually waned, and the same will happen with science. What comes next is up to the brown masses of the turd world to decide.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:31:54 UTC No. 16243330
>>16242773
You mean like what you're doing?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:32:55 UTC No. 16243332
>>16243031
Science IS philosophy. Fucking retard larpers.
>verification not required
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:35:50 UTC No. 16243339
>>16243288
>Theoretical physics hasn't made significant progess
You're basically discouraging the funding and publishing of verified null hypotheses which is equal to encouraging the replication crisis. A historical record of all the things that don't work is an investment with a longterm pay-off.