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Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 05:25:54 UTC No. 16248793
NASA released this moon colony concept in 1970, with construction to be completed by 1985. What went wrong?
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 05:30:03 UTC No. 16248800
It was all more complicated than hoped
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 07:00:56 UTC No. 16248872
>>16248793
>What went wrong?
the US public lost interest in Moon exploration. After 6 landings, they stopped caring, it became a rather trivial thing, just one more channel on TV. So they stopped caring.
Also, to get to the Moon and be in space for such long periods of time, NASA reasoned that it'd first be best to assemble low-orbit space stations to study the effects of prolonged stays in space on the human body, as well as material testing and engineering testing. To get there, they first had to find a cheaper space travel/cargo transport alternative alternative, including reusable vehicles and the Space Shuttle program was born.
From then onwards, things progressed slowly because Congress never allocates enough money for the aspirations of NASA, there were other priorities.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:22:05 UTC No. 16249277
>>16248872
That was a lot of it. Also Nixon got hoodwinked into dumping Apollo for the Space Shuttle, which didn't end up delivering the value promised. Eventually something shuttle like would have been developed but STS was a very bad detour.
The public indeed did quickly lose interest in the Moon but if the Space Shuttle was successful at one thing, it was capturing the imaginations of the youth of the 1980s. Even after Challenger, kids still loved the Space Shuttle. That did start to fade in the 90s, especially after the Columbia disaster and such long periods of the Shuttle just doing the same thing over and over again. Once ISS was approved, the Shuttle mostly became a tool for delivering the next hot thing.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:29:52 UTC No. 16249286
People realized space is dumb and there is no point in going there.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:40:36 UTC No. 16249298
>>16249286
>there is no point in going there.
>there is no point in exploring
you must be such a fun person
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:51:37 UTC No. 16249314
>>16249298
This is a pretty vapid thing to say if you think about it. Exploring qua exploring isn't as important as you think, especially when you consider the places you want to explore are outside the earth's biosphere and thus by definition uninhabitable.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:06:32 UTC No. 16249541
>>16248793
Nixon stripped NASA out of all funding after Apollo 11 was successful. Every other lunar mission was living from scrap from that.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:23:21 UTC No. 16249578
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:24:44 UTC No. 16249583
>>16249314
A man without curiosity, without drive to seek the unknown isn't a man. Its not even a human.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:29:11 UTC No. 16249597
>>16249583
I have curiosity and a drive to seek the unknown. I say we send robots.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:31:12 UTC No. 16249603
>>16249597
Why not just put on a headset and explore the universe via your virtual reality with the latest/bestest simulator? Why explore? Why leave the house? Why get up? Just hook it to a machine.
What makes you human then?
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:33:31 UTC No. 16249612
>>16249298
>Exploring qua exploring isn't as important as you think
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 18:35:27 UTC No. 16249618
>>16249314
>>16249612
>Exploring qua exploring
(I liked the sound of that though, nice prose!)
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 19:38:23 UTC No. 16249735
>>16248800
no, the money that could have paid for it went instead to blacks domestically and jews internationally
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jun 2024 19:57:32 UTC No. 16249778
>>16249578
More like the Antarctic expeditions. Except there's even less stuff you can use there.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 04:22:03 UTC No. 16250352
>>16248793
Retards took over all intellectual jobs, and won't allow anyone else in.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:23:24 UTC No. 16251482
>>16249778
Not a problem. Man creates resources out of barren land. We can build a city on Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:29:05 UTC No. 16251494
>>16251482
>We can build a city on Mars.
but let's not, we already fucked one planet, we need to go back home.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:30:09 UTC No. 16251495
>>16251494
You can kill yourself if you think there's evil in living and creating.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:32:40 UTC No. 16251505
>>16251495
>if you think there's evil in living and creating.
I never said such a thing.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 21:07:31 UTC No. 16251560
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 21:43:09 UTC No. 16251611
>>16248793
CGI technology not being up to date
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 22:52:47 UTC No. 16251809
>>16251482
Well, we could build cities on the poles. There's a matter of sufficient motivation to do so. Economic or otherwise.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 22:53:58 UTC No. 16251810
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:03:06 UTC No. 16251823
>>16251810
We need a "city" on Mars just to explore it? Sounds more like tourism.
Mayflower is a weird example since there was a lot of stuff already in place in the New World, such as air, soil, plants, animals, plus largely helpful and naive natives.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:05:03 UTC No. 16251827
>>16251823
Woah America was such a paradise before Mayflower. They had EVERYTHING!!! Woahhh
Dumb shitter mentality
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:06:08 UTC No. 16251828
>>16248793
The good guys lost the war
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:11:33 UTC No. 16251836
>>16248793
The space race was over and all the red-baiting politicians who signed NASA's blank checks suddenly were less interested in aerospace research than they used to claim.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:15:39 UTC No. 16251840
>>16248872
>it became a rather trivial thing, just one more channel on TV
They just straight up stopped televising the missions pretty shortly after Apollo 11. Most networks didn't even pick up the broadcasts from 13 before the disaster happened.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:33:14 UTC No. 16251859
>>16251827
Massachusetts > airless desert
A lot of colonists died anyway, yeah. The point stands.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 02:40:14 UTC No. 16252058
The first Mars colonists will probably have a significant impact on the gene pool of the year 3000
It's a biological imperative to expand
"Let's just sit around and do nothing" shitters will be bred out
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 03:41:19 UTC No. 16252107
>>16252058
>it's actually all about breeding a new Martian race
I feel like there's a lot of problems with that plan, but I respect the audacity.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:07:01 UTC No. 16252856
>>16252058
>"Let's just sit around and do nothing" shitters will be bred out
Unless we have a government mandate to bring those people to mars as an extra useless bag.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:32:06 UTC No. 16252894
>>16248793
Vietnam
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:00:07 UTC No. 16252944
>>16248793
Starship hasn't been completed yet