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Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 18:45:47 UTC No. 16251242
There was a thread a couple of hours ago. It was about carbon dating and dinosaurs and stuff. The thread picture was black background with two t-rex sceletons, one with straight back, one with curved.
Within this thread there was a post with a picture. In this picture it was told about an interview with some african astronomer or the like, who appearently worked smth with hawking or so, who had said, that the data we observe from universe would easly allow to construct a model, where the universe is a symmetrical sphere and the earth in its center. we just choose to interpret the observations else for philosophical reasons.
I need that pic or the source of the interview or the name of the astronomer. pretty please.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:13:39 UTC No. 16251306
>>16251242
>the data we observe from universe would easly allow to construct a model, where the universe is a symmetrical sphere and the earth in its center. we just choose to interpret the observations else for philosophical reasons.
This way, please:
>>>/x/
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 19:42:01 UTC No. 16251381
>>16251306
it wasn't x-ish at all. it was plain science theoretical.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:36:09 UTC No. 16251512
>>16251381
try here then:
https://warosu.org/sci/
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:56:04 UTC No. 16251540
>>16251512
>https://warosu.org/sci/
hm, thanks, that's great. but the thread seems not to be there .. maybe it was on another board, but what? afaik I only was on pol and g besides sci. both of them wouldn't have this kind of thread, I guess .. welp, thanks anyways.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:12:36 UTC No. 16252454
at least I found the quote: "People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observationsā¦.For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observationsā¦.You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds. In my view there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology tries to hide that."
W. Wayt Gibbs, "Profile: George F. R. Ellis," Scientific American, October 1995, Vol. 273, No.4, p. 55.
Wasn't easy; although I knew briefly 10% of it, google only gave my some flat earth bullshit. same with duckduckgo. yandex: first result. weird. with all that AI and stuff, but google can't find a single quote. also I searched for an 4chan archive for /g/ and google only gave me wukupedua articles about 4chan (4chan bad). yandex: first result. strange.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:24:52 UTC No. 16252469
>>16252454
In a universe not rotating around the Earth, what is said there is true for any chosen point. Retrograde values would be different as a function of solar orbital speed and distance from the viewing location.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:29:43 UTC No. 16252477
>>16252469
you could also construct a universe with a static, immobile earth and everything rotating around it. that's just harder to calculate. ofc in this case, it is not pure philosophical reasoning to reject that model, but also occam's razor.