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Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:33:40 UTC No. 16252482
Is grilling meat really harmful or is it just propaganda to keep us away from meat?
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:35:39 UTC No. 16252489
>>16252482
it's harmful to the meat, yes
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:38:45 UTC No. 16252494
>>16252489
>it's harmful to the meat, yes
it's harmful to your meat, yes.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:53:10 UTC No. 16252513
>>16252494
Cancer research UK was funded by Israel.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:04:30 UTC No. 16252958
>>16252513
>Cancer research UK was funded by Israel.
Go test it yourself then, smart ass.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:08:35 UTC No. 16253946
>>16252482
Its just another lie, scientists are constantly spinning lies to justify their poorly disguised powermad political agendas
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:34:36 UTC No. 16254001
As a layperson I have trouble taking any nutritional science seriously. There’s so many articles and fad diets out there contradicting one another. Red meat is bad for you, eat seafood instead! Except seafood has mercury, so you can’t eat that! Red wine is good for you! No, it’s bad for you! No it’s good for you again! You should be vegan and never eat meat! No, you should do keto and never eat carbs! Fat used to be the devil, now it’s sugar. Processed food is bad for you, but what is the process? What processes are making it unhealthy? As an autist I have enough trouble making sure I’m eating every day, I have little ability to and see little gain from conforming to the erratic health advice of the week.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:51:03 UTC No. 16254024
>>16252482
Heavily processed meat does.
Bologna, sausages, pepperoni, bacon, etc.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:53:34 UTC No. 16254028
>>16254024
all of that stuff is just fine, not only is it just as good as any other meat, but since a lot of people with normal diets don't eat organ meats, foods like sausages that incorporate organ meats are an important part of a healthy diet.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 01:30:23 UTC No. 16254070
>>16252482
JUST
BELIEVE
SCIENCE
GOYIM
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 03:18:59 UTC No. 16254168
>>16252482
tl;dr yes. see https://scholar.google.com/scholar?
cook it all sous vide if you want minimal cancer risk
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 03:30:37 UTC No. 16254175
>>16252482
Is grilling the only way to eat meat? If someone says grilling is bad, do they try to keep you away from the meat?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 05:04:16 UTC No. 16254262
>>16254175
I'm >>16254168 and I just *rarely* eat grilled meat (usually rare). The vast majority of my meat intake, which is super-duper high cuz I ain't some vegan pussy, is cooked sous vide in a lime-vinegar marinade at 155F for 10-24 hours.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 05:05:16 UTC No. 16254264
>>16252482
Meat is harmful for your body, for the society and for the planet.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 05:56:59 UTC No. 16254296
>>16252494
> uk research
LMAO, those are complete morons, only stupid retard idiots like you would believe something that absurd. Now fuck off you piece of shit, and don't forget to get vaxxed, we don't need parasites like you.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:03:31 UTC No. 16254303
>>16252494
>>16252958
>>16254024
>>16254168
Only goyslop is good for beasts like you, meat is only for humans.
https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/171758602
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:53:57 UTC No. 16254399
>>16254024
WHY tho?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:13:36 UTC No. 16255611
>>16252482
>grilled meat is bad
but also
>eat the bugs goy
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:30:39 UTC No. 16255628
>>16252494
>epidemiological
>evidence
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:01:35 UTC No. 16255670
>>16254262
>>16254168
>sous vide
enjoy your microplastics
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:09:14 UTC No. 16255680
>>16255670
>touch plastic and inhale all sorts of chemicals every day
>the meat that was already packaged in plastic will murder you
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:55:28 UTC No. 16256764
>>16255670
I started sous-viding in glassware. You just need a bowl with a lid.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:10:56 UTC No. 16256779
>>16254399
Preservative chemicals.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:54:12 UTC No. 16257052
>>16252494
>bacon
>processed
Cut, trimmed, salted, cured, and smoked.
Then fried at home.
Idiots.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:59:46 UTC No. 16257070
>>16254168
>We would like to close this review by mentioning that organic solvent extracts of broiled horse meat induced tumors in mammary glands when repeatedly painted on the backs of mice, as reported by Widmark in Lund University, Sweden, in 1939.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:57:00 UTC No. 16257803
>>16257039
why do they even want to eat vegan "eggs" "meat" "milk" etc?
>I became a vegan so I could eggs, meat and milk
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:49:53 UTC No. 16258511
>>16257803
They're mentally ill, veganism is an eating disorder
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:42:06 UTC No. 16258698
>>16252482
>Scientists: "Grilling meat and eating it is what propelled out species in intelligence so far so fast we evolved into hairless apes that fly planes and shoot lasers."
>Also scientists: "If you eat grilled meat you'll get cancer and die and all your kids will die and the Earth will literally die!"
KEK, trust the science plebs.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:16:01 UTC No. 16259427
>>16257052
>implying that's not processing
bread is processed food too
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:39:15 UTC No. 16259447
>>16258698
Scientists vs Soientists.
>>16252494
Vegan meat = meat removed from a vegan.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:48:23 UTC No. 16259457
>>16257052
I prefer to cook mine in the oven. Its crispier that way, also makes it easier to collect the fat for later use in baked goods.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 08:44:05 UTC No. 16259486
>>16257803
Because they enjoy the taste but don't want to eat animal producrs for ethical reasons.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:40:52 UTC No. 16259992
>>16252494
>Sausage and bacon are bad
By that infographics, most people in the UK would get cancer and die young.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:57:53 UTC No. 16260016
>>16255670
So what do you drink, tap water that is already full of microplastics or water in plastic bottles?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:32:00 UTC No. 16260057
>>16260016
u know water filters do exist? lol
I filter my tap water and then drink it out of glass bottles
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:12:46 UTC No. 16260325
>>16260016
i drink milk retard
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 22:14:53 UTC No. 16260329
>>16255680
do you know how much more plastic leeches when its heated? leave a water bottle out in the hot sun for 3 hours and you can taste the plastic
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:05:19 UTC No. 16260528
>>16252494
>How strong is the evidence?
>*presents no evidence*
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:51:44 UTC No. 16260578
>>16252482
>pump cows full of steroids and antibiotics
>subject generation after generation to bizarre living standards
>why does meat cause cancer yall?
Maybe cows from before industrialization were less likely to cause cancer? Regardless of this I still choose to eat meat :^)
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:36:52 UTC No. 16261799
>>16260578
>bizarre living standards
cows are herd animals, they like being grouped closely together.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:17:30 UTC No. 16261873
>>16252482
smoke is bad for you, grilling meat exposes it to smoke therefore it is bad for you
how bad exactly is unclear
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 07:47:59 UTC No. 16262564
>>16261873
do you really think that life on a planet with regular and near constant wildfires as well as regular volcanic activity really evolved to be so sensitive to smoke that just being near a little bit of it will do irreparable terminal harm? all the genetics like that have long since gone extinct. sure hope you're not one of them evolution deniers
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 09:48:42 UTC No. 16262669
>>16257803
how retarded are you? serious question.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 06:45:24 UTC No. 16263942
>>16259457
your me
baked bacon >>> fried
its called "bacon" because you're supposed to bake it
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 07:10:55 UTC No. 16263976
>>16262564
People in the past didn't live long enough for it to matter
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 07:59:38 UTC No. 16264018
>>16254001
not forget the obvious
>a 50 kg asian female office worker should have the same dietary requirements as a kongo black african poacher, a seal hunting eskimo or an american farmer except for the calorie intake
yeah, I don't think it passes the most basic smell test
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:17:22 UTC No. 16265126
>>16263976
>I think particulates and smoke are unhealthy, thats why I choose to live in an urban area, the most polluted area with the worst air quality anywhere on the planet.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:04:25 UTC No. 16265586
>>16265126
why are you inventing narratives about othrt people?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:56:59 UTC No. 16265629
>>16255628
Yes, just like smoking and cancer data
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:56:09 UTC No. 16265738
>>16254001
Mediterranean diet is proven by millions of people living there, their lifespans is reliable data.
Same thing for certain asian countries like Korea and Japan.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:13:00 UTC No. 16265966
>>16252482
>>16265738
> grilling in Mediterranean cuisine involves herbs and onions put onto the meat, not some sugary oily marinade or sauce as in the west
> grilling is only done rapidly to cook meat and not to smoke it, that’s a different thing but western bbq has mixed them together for whatever the fuck ‘bark’ is supposed to be
> western grilling also involves sausages, steak or burgers drunk on butter like there’s no tomorrow
> just watch ramsay or any shit tier tire company approved chef put a rock’s worth of salt onto a single piece of burger or steak
Mediterranean grilling involves herbs on the meat, and frequently grills veggies like tomatoes on the side. Western grills are a mishmash of sugary, oily, buttery, salty stuff that will make your heart start writing a suicide note. Hence the contradictory info
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:35:46 UTC No. 16265995
>>16265738
traditional med and okinawan diet was fish and pork heavy
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:37:28 UTC No. 16265998
>>16265629
epidemiological food survey questionaire studies are worse than junk
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:59:02 UTC No. 16266808
>>16252482
Why should it be harmful? You mean the burned black stuff? Thats just charcoal you nigger.
>>16252494
>>16254024
>>16256779
What exactly in pRoCeSSeD meats should be harmful? Oh you mean the dangerous preservatives like nitrites that are more than abundant in vegetables than in any meats? Maybe eat more sausages so your brain starts to operate correctly. Faggot.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 04:25:29 UTC No. 16267200
>>16252482
Char is harmful
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:02:09 UTC No. 16267228
>>16252482
Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons form when the juices from the meat fall onto the hot charcoal and turn into smoke which then clings to the meat, and PAH is a known carcinogen that causes cancer.
It's really up to you if you want to grill meat, though. Just know it has a higher risk of cancer.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:05:46 UTC No. 16267231
>>16266748
typical vegan physique
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:27:40 UTC No. 16267245
>>16266748
The only way to be a vegan without pure suffering is eating expensive and ultra-processed foods that cause cancer (like vegan cheese).
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:46:03 UTC No. 16267264
>>16267228
Does the same happen to the juices, when I cook meat at high temperatures in the oven?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:55:03 UTC No. 16267277
>>16267264
No, its because of the fuel being used.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 01:48:52 UTC No. 16268331
>>16267228
>humans have been cooking meet the same way for hundreds of thousands of years
>vegans: NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT ITS BAD FOR YOU
what is evolution
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:04:09 UTC No. 16269404
>>16268331
they'd rather eat genetically modified goyslop from a globohomo factory in china
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:05:28 UTC No. 16269407
>>16252482
grilling is not the issue, the issue is the production of meat itself that takes up huge swathes of land and produces a ton of shitty gases that pollute everywhere around them and destroy the habitate of many species
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:06:14 UTC No. 16269409
>>16258698
both can be right, we are a torch that burns twice as bright but half as long
sage at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:30:50 UTC No. 16269445
It's simple. You don't ***need*** meat.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:10:53 UTC No. 16270682
>>16269445
Yes you do, humans are obligate carnivores
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:22:10 UTC No. 16270693
>>16252494
i would love to know the basis of such claims. i am nearly positive that there are some false premises and/or incorrect assumptions made to lead to that conclusion
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:41:14 UTC No. 16270707
>>16270682
no, humans are faculative carnivores
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:42:39 UTC No. 16270711
>>16270693
There's probably a big stack of food choice questionaires being relied on to tenuously draw out a p hacked correlation