Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:02:00 UTC No. 16252663

>>16252545
> For example in biology it’s only natural selection and any idea outside of that is wrong or quackery when it isn’t even a law of nature.
Think you’re mixing up evolution and natural selection. Natural selection is just the process of reproducing entities with environment-favorable characteristics out-reproducing entities with similar reproduction rates but less environment-favorable characteristics. Evolution proposes that new organisms are formed by a process of mutations which then get honed down by natural selection. The real dicey part is how those mutations occur. Darwin proposed that mutations just randomly occur in small increments, however there’s a lot that doesn’t explain and there are computational limits that this simulated annealing process can achieve in terms of explaining the diversity and specialization of species in the relatively few billion years of the universe’s existence.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:05:17 UTC No. 16252665

>>16252545
> if I even come up with a different theory I am told that I’m a bad person and an idiot when there’s no proof these phenomena exist.
Coming up with your own theory whole cloth is usually not a good idea in challenging consensus because a lot of theories with consensus at least have some evidence behind it, and evidence is expensive to accumulate for one person in a single lifetime even if they’re rich (are you?). It’s much more effective to question existing theories by pointing out where they’re not well supported by evidence and then proposing alternative explanations.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:05:33 UTC No. 16252667

>>16252545
Something isn't dogma just because you don't understand it and can't be fucked to learn.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:06:56 UTC No. 16252669

>>16252545
Because it operates exactly like religion. On the large scale it attempts to explain everything without proof.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:27:47 UTC No. 16252687

>>16252545
>if I even come up with a different theory
This never happened and will never happen, you LARPing shitbrain. Even your asinine garbage thread comes with the repugnant stench of unoriginality. Instead of creating something new, your highest cognitive achievement is to torture this board with yet another copypaste run-of-the-mill science denialism spam thread. You're not the skeptic you're LARP-pretending to be, you're just another bot even lower than an NPC, endlessly and mindlessly repeating contentless noise. Go on, make another dozen "science is le bad" threads on the science board like the brainrotten drone you are.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:34:18 UTC No. 16252691

>>16252545
You just spitballing hypotheses and alternative explanations in general against well-supported bodies of evidence is going to (rightfully) get you called out for being a jackass.

I could say, for example, that the expansion of the universe is tiny microscopic aliens pushing the edges of the universe, and that the reason why the matter-to-antimatter ratio is so skewed is that they metabolize antimatter into fuel for themselves. Wow, look, I answered a question with little else going on to answer it! I guess that makes my statement legitimate for consideration and fuck the dirty lib commie gay troon atheists of academia or whatever for not considering it.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:53:08 UTC No. 16252717

>>16252545
>there’s no proof these phenomena exist
That's just you being ignorant. Just say you don't understand cosmology. It's okay to admit your shortcomings.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:50:28 UTC No. 16252838

>>16252691
Well supported Bodies of evidence for the Big bang?

Like what exactly? The Big Bang model tries to tie in the incomplete theory of particle physics.

You cannot test the Big Bang hypothesis you can’t travel back in time and you can’t sail the universe

>>16252717
I don’t understand cosmology? Neither do cosmologist. They just make up theories that contractdict themselves new flash space is way to big to mesure anybody who thinks they are able to mesure outside of the solar system is pretty delusional

🗑️ sage at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:58:09 UTC No. 16252845

>>16252545
another retarded /pol/tard pst

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:59:04 UTC No. 16252847

>>16252687
> you LARPing shitbrain. Even your asinine garbage thread comes with the repugnant stench of unoriginality. Instead of creating something new, your highest cognitive achievement is to torture this board with yet another copypaste run-of-the-mill science denialism spam thread

See you prove my point you can’t even have a constructive conversation without being called a science denier.

I love science and physics and that’s why I criticize it.

Mordern science creates the implicit assumption that the universe and life itself has been solved when that is very far from the truth.

Even here on earth we haven’t even dug deep enough to explore earths crust. How can we say we know space???

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:24:44 UTC No. 16252885

>>16252838
>Well supported Bodies of evidence for the Big bang?
The big bang predicted the CMB, and it's fluctuations (pic related), it predicted the abundance of light elements formed in the early universe, galaxy evolution and signatures of expansion.
All of these things were tests of the big bang, and more continue. Any alternative model should explain these observations, and eventually make novel testable predictions. The big bang already did that, multiple times.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:33:53 UTC No. 16252898

>>16252885
This is not evidence you cannot travel back to the beginning. To prove anything it’s just a guess

Infinite density. What does that even mean?

Testable predictions? How? with math?
Math isn’t material reality, it is a language with numbers and symbols as a point of reference to mesure the universe doesn’t operate on math. In fact most stuff is just standardized so everyone can be in agreement like the interchangeable part that henery ford created to mass produce vehicles.

Stop living in someone else’s theory of the world and create your own.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:39:01 UTC No. 16252902

>>16252545
>it’s only natural selection
there's also "unnatural" selection, in other words, not selected by the physicality of the environments (cold/hot, wet/dry, shade/light, etc), or the predation pressure upon you (fast/slow, clumsy/agile), or the resistance to disease, etc. No, there is also subjetive and emotional selection going on, pic related.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:44:34 UTC No. 16252914

>>16252898
>This is not evidence
it is evidence, just not the idealized, perfect first-hand observation you are demanding with such an absurdity:
>you cannot travel back to the beginning.
well, no shit, sherlock.

Must I remind you that all decent scientists know that it's the Big Bang THEORY, and not the Big Bang Law?
It seems I must!

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:48:03 UTC No. 16252923

>>16252898
>This is not evidence you cannot travel back to the beginning. To prove anything it’s just a guess
Evidence=/=proof. You asked for evidence. Nothing is ever proven in empirical science, whether or not you can actually interact with something directly.
Lots of science is observational by requirement. Geology for example, it doesn't make it unscientific.
>Infinite density. What does that even mean?
A modern big bang model only describes things as far back as inflation, where there is no infinite density. A singularity is not part of the modern model.
>Testable predictions? How? with math?
I listed some. Observations, physics, mathematics all together.
>the universe doesn’t operate on math.
Correct. But mathematics can describe the universe.
>Stop living in someone else’s theory of the world and create your own.
Feel free to create a serious alternative. Hundreds have tried most of them have been ruled out. The only alternatives that exist today are minor variations.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:59:38 UTC No. 16253189

>>16252914
>>16252923

Both of you make fair points and thank you for the clarification. However your scientific theories that you love so much create implicit assumptions.

These assumptions

> 1. we have all the answers

We don’t in fact the observation's are based on KNOWN science and don’t account for unknown science. We don’t understand the universe in its entirety there could be undiscovered elements we don’t even know exist.

>2. Destructive of new discovery

Holding onto oid unproven beliefs doesn’t actually let new radical beliefs come to the forefront.

> 3. Indoctrination of children with misinformation.


When I was younger the teacher taught us that a primordial soup of chemicals started in the ocean and created evolution into the great species we see today. This is however unproven and very false but the damage is already done false beliefs translate into adulthood and propagate through generations.

But since you both agreed I think I won this debate ahahahahahahaha

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:03:02 UTC No. 16253197

Evolution is true and your ancestors were monkeys. Creationism is false, there was no Adam and Eve, there was no flood.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:14:20 UTC No. 16253232

>>16253189
>We don’t in fact the observation's are based on KNOWN science and don’t account for unknown science. We don’t understand the universe in its entirety there could be undiscovered elements we don’t even know exist.
You have it backwards. We don't know how the universe works, but we do know exactly how the model works. If the model fails to match observations then that model is wrong, it is not how the universe works. It's not a matter of having to know everything else, it's more or less about elimination.
>Holding onto oid unproven beliefs doesn’t actually let new radical beliefs come to the forefront.
This is your assumption, it's not really put forward with evidence it happens. Any idea can only come to the forefront if it is robust and well studied, that takes time and demonstrating that it can explain all the data that exists today.
>> 3. Indoctrination of children with misinformation.
You mean education based on the best evidence available.
>When I was younger the teacher taught us that a primordial soup of chemicals started in the ocean and created evolution into the great species we see today. This is however unproven and very false but the damage is already done false beliefs translate into adulthood and propagate through generations.
As I said nothing is ever proven. There is an overwhelming body of evidence supporting the evolution of life on earth over billions of years. It stands to reason that some chemical process created the first life.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:17:02 UTC No. 16253240

>>16253189
>When I was younger the teacher taught us that a primordial soup of chemicals started in the ocean and created evolution into the great species we see today. This is however unproven and very false but the damage is already done false beliefs translate into adulthood and propagate through generations.
That's abiogenisis not evolution, you silly billy.
Perhaps reddit is more your speed.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:18:56 UTC No. 16253246

>>16253197
You idiot of course there was no Adam and Eve it’s just a story like every story in the Bible its ment to give a philosophical message.

Ask yourself. What came first the chicken or the egg?

No one knows so your theory of evolution is false.

You have been redpilled

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:19:43 UTC No. 16253249

>>16253246
The egg would have come first.
We know, so your theory of creation is false.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:29:55 UTC No. 16253278

>>16253246
Evolution has been proven by endogenous retroviruses

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:31:27 UTC No. 16253281

>>16252902
There is no goal of reaching the state of most efficiency in evolution - once the animal is capable of reproducing it is a 'good' animal.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:32:42 UTC No. 16253284

>>16253249
It’s not my theory.

But ask yourself. Can any human

1. Create a living organism from scratch in a lab? NO

2. Can humans make the earth or an equivalent? NO

3. Can humans make any star or planet?
NO

So how can humans claim to understand something they can’t even replicate themselves.

Lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:34:22 UTC No. 16253290

>>16253284
indeed, humans created many gods after all.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:36:51 UTC No. 16253298

>>16253284
>1. Create a living organism from scratch in a lab? NO
Abiogenesis, not evolution, currently being worked on by scientists rather than god of the gaps.
>2. Can humans make the earth or an equivalent? NO
>3. Can humans make any star or planet? NO
Stellar and planetary formation, not evolution, but can be observed in multiple stages thanks to astronomy.
>how can humans claim to understand something they can't replicate themselves
We can't make plants grow, but they do that on their own, and we can watch them do it and change how they grow to suit our tastes.
Does this mean we don't understand plant growth, because we can't cause it ourselves?

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:40:29 UTC No. 16253307

>>16253290
You are correct sir. That’s not up for debate. However I think you take religion too literally. Gods of the past were mere symbols or representations of human traits OR natural phenomena that humans couldn’t reproduce or control themselves. (Ex sun god, god of lighting, or god of envy etc)

They are not literal PHYSICAL GODS you idiot. It’s just philosophy

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:56:54 UTC No. 16253341

>>16253298
You idiot we don’t know how they work. We only understand chemistry. Which are chemical interactions.


ASK YOURSELF.
Why can we make phones

We understand how an iPhone works because humans can make them.

That’s material proof humans understand electromagnetism. And can harness its power.

So if humans understood living organisms so much why can’t a scientist create an ant or
Fly in a lab?

But but. NO BUTS . If you understand how it works make it from scratch in a lab.

if you can’t, shut the fuck up and quit acting like you know everything.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:00:28 UTC No. 16253350

>>16253341
We understood how transistors worked for decades before cellphones were invented, and we understood electromagnetism even longer than that
We do understand how evolution, genetics, etc. Work for some time. We will be able to do what you're saying in the future.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:00:46 UTC No. 16253352

>>16253341
>If you understand how it works make it from scratch in a lab.
Humans don't understand how everything in a fly or ant works.
Does anyone claim we do?
The claim you seem to be disagreeing with is that we can trace how they came to be, but that's like being able to make a timeline of iPhones. Just because you can make the timeline doesn't mean you know how it works internally.

You avoided my question by the way, which was not very nice, so let me try a different one.
Do you ever try and look into how we know what we do? Or do you just assert that we don't actually know it without checking or trying to understand?

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:01:43 UTC No. 16253355

>>16252545
The jews destroyed academia, turning it into a sect for retards, climate cultists, vaxxers, and woke vermin.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:03:11 UTC No. 16253358

>>16253307
retard take

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:05:13 UTC No. 16253365

>>16252667
> learn the dogma
LMAO, you don't even know what is a woman, you stupid piece of shit.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:06:24 UTC No. 16253370

>>16253290
Smooth as butter.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:06:48 UTC No. 16253372

>>16253365
>you don't even know what is a woman
Latinx retard detected.
Your God isn't real and evolution has been proven

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:27:59 UTC No. 16253417

>>16253352
I guess you’re missing my point. My point is that understanding and allowing ourselves to have some humility and understanding that we don’t know everything will allow us to discover more.

Acting like a know it all blinds you from discovery.

>If we know how the universe began and how life began, thats it there’s nothing more left to discover.

But that’s not true we don’t and there’s more to discover that we haven’t

These theories blind us from discovery

And that’s the lesson of dogma.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:32:49 UTC No. 16253426

>>16253417
I was trying to be civil, but you're clearly retarded and strawmanning.
I stated myself, in response to your 3 asinine "questions" that we are currently looking into abiogenesis, and now you're talking about how the universe began rather than how planets and stars form.
You're clearly not at a high enough level of understand to discuss these concepts, and simply because you willfully chose NOT to understand.
As other anons have pointed out: if you don't understand it, it doesn't mean it's just dogma. This is literally just a you problem.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:36:40 UTC No. 16253438

>>16253426
personal attacks do not match the standard of the scientific method sorry anon.

Take a breather and come back when you studied more.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:37:20 UTC No. 16253440

>>16253438

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:40:52 UTC No. 16253456

>>16253438
>lack of critical thinking
You've only asked rhetorical questions you don't actually know the answer to and just assume
>fragile ego
>"if you can’t, shut the fuck up and quit acting like you know everything."
>difficulty accepting feedback
You've not updated or defended your views on anything you were corrected on, simply changed the discussion to something else.
>poor communication
The above 3 demonstrate this.

I've scientifically proven you are a suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:50:40 UTC No. 16253491

>>16253456
Look how I shattered both of your egos you both sound like bitter females.

Time for your gender reassignment surgery

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:55:46 UTC No. 16253506

>>16253491
Personal attacks do not match the standard of scientific evidence.
Sorry, Anon. You lost.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:03:23 UTC No. 16253524

>>16253506
According to sigma fraud I have you on the ropes

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:07:52 UTC No. 16253544

>>16253524
>you're not allowed to point out how I violate my own standards which I brought up
You're doing the thing I mentioned, instead of changing your views or defending your previous views you just pivot the discussion.
Do you think, based off the evidence I provided, that you are a dunning kruger retard or not?

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:20:20 UTC No. 16253582

>>16253544
The topic is scientific dogma. Everything you are saying is going beyond the scope of the discussion. I pivoted back to my Original point. Then when you realize my philosophy could be correct you went crazy and couldn’t accept it so you resorted to personal attacks.

Your have no material proof of these theories you believe in, sorry anon that’s psudeoscience

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:27:09 UTC No. 16253602

>>16253582
Evolution has genetic testing, fossils, transitionary species, and modern recordings of specialization in real time.
Universal expansion has red-shift data, and CMB
Stellar and planetary formation has every stage viewed by human beings if you look into active nebula and new star-systems with new stars and planets in every stage of formation.
How do you respond to not knowing any of these things, while believing you knew all of them (what is called being a Dunning Kruger)?

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:04:11 UTC No. 16253819

>>16253602
Sorry anon genetic testing isn’t 100% and uses probability theory of mathematics to create a “more likely true than not” conclusion but you knew that didn’t you?

Biology technically isn’t a science like physics because biology doesn’t use scientific laws

Like gravity or thermodynamics


Give up ANON I am highly educated. I believe in science you believe in scientific religion

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:16:42 UTC No. 16253840

>>16252885
Which CMB did it predict?

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:32:36 UTC No. 16253865

>>16253819
Avoided the question yet again, and there are laws of biology. I wouldn't expect you to know them because you don't understand biology (dunning kruger)

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:00:50 UTC No. 16253927

>>16253865
Oh yea? I know Darwin had one law, I glanced over honestly didn’t fully read

“on the origin of species.”

Funny thing is I agree with Darwin’s Analysis well at least a good bit of it.

So educate me I would honestly like to learn since you have such passion for the subject

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:19:53 UTC No. 16253973

>>16253927
"on the origin of species" isn't a law.
One example of a law used in evolution is that you cannot evolve out of a clade.
For example snakes, despite not having 4 legs, are still tetropods, because they have had ancestors with 4 legs in the past which were also tetropods.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:31:29 UTC No. 16253996

>>16253973
Do you get tired of being wrong? Pic titles the chapters within “on the origin of species”

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:34:38 UTC No. 16254002

>>16253996
"on the origin of species" is a book which lays out some laws, but it is not the law.
In the same way that Euclid's Elements isn't mathematical law, but lays out laws about mathematics.
Do you have any reply to when I called you dunning kruger before? It seems like it's still relevant to this conversation but you keep avoiding it, which I pointed out before as well.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:46:21 UTC No. 16254017

>>16254002
Alright man you win imma let this thread rest and let other anons discuss more pressing issues

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:43:53 UTC No. 16254962

>>16252545
Scientific dogma is due to the fact that, compared to with a point in the past (for simplicity's sake imagine 1924), the ratio of midwits participating in the field is much, much higher (because they are being pumped into science due to higher education).
Midwits are not able to form genuine independent thoughts. At best, they can output parodies of things they have previously seen.
But unlike genuine dimwits, midwits at the very least can parse and understand that which more intelligent than them people produce.

But having a coherent worldview is not just about being able to understand what other people have come up with, it's also analyzing when (and how) these pre-masticated models fail.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 18:01:25 UTC No. 16255071

>>16254962
You have a valid point. They need as many people inspired to do science so they can keep their precious capitalist system a float. They have to market and promote higher education because this society is very complex.

The promise of AI for the capitalist and why they are so excited, is to reduce overhead with these complicated task which can lower cost. And those truly passionate in the fields can emerge and create new innovative ideas. Without the noise and sheep like behavior of a midwhit.

Who lets be honest are only in it for the money anyway.

Like MR pump here who went to Harvard.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 18:49:00 UTC No. 16255139

>>16253281
>once the animal is capable of reproducing it is a 'good' animal
that is true, it is "good enough" indeed. Nonetheless, sexual attraction might promote physical features that for a while might not hinder survival, but when under situations of duress, everybody dies, for example.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 18:54:45 UTC No. 16255146

>>16253284
>1. Create a living organism from scratch in a lab?
depends on what you mean by "create from scratch" and what exactly:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/may/20/craig-venter-synthetic-life-form
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/science/xenobots-robots-frogs-xenopus.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8670470/
>2. Can humans make the earth or an equivalent?
>3. Can humans make any star or planet?
Not yet, obviously

>So how can humans claim to understand something they can’t even replicate themselves.
Well, as you can see in point 1, they are replicating.
Additionally, it's called the THEORY of evolution, not the Law of Evolution.
I hope you understand the difference because scientists do.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 19:32:23 UTC No. 16255197

>>16252898
2+2=4

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:14:31 UTC No. 16255280

>>16252545
theres more people talking about science than there are people actually doing it.

if you want to be fringe. conduct your own experiments and develop theories based on results.
scientists make "wild claims" to boost exposure for their research paper.
though this tends to contribute to more people talking about science than actually doing it.
people dont read into controversy anymore than headlines now, so its become a dangeous tactic.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:20:44 UTC No. 16255300

>>16253840
It predicted the existence of the CMB and the structure and spectrum.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:37:09 UTC No. 16255335

>>16255146
>not yet obviously.

Delusional atheist spotted

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:48:00 UTC No. 16255347

>>16255146
The post you linked are sensational news stories they cannot create life from scratch

ask yourself. What happened to gene editing? Surely humans were supposed to be able to manipulate genetic structure right right? am I right?

Fuck they lied to us again.

The oldest trick in medical history. “I have a cure”

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:57:02 UTC No. 16255358

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:36:02 UTC No. 16256873

>>16252545
>it’s only natural selection and any idea outside of that is wrong
I like how they worship natural selection but then they shit bricks when humanity impacts the evolution of another species. Its as if they don't think humanity is part of nature or something, which really calls their claimed beliefs in evolution into question.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:53:22 UTC No. 16257796

>>16252545
>Why is there so much dogma in science these days.?
The answer to that question can be neatly summed up in just four characters, the last two of which are "ws" and the first is the 10th letter of the alphabet white the second is the most common vowel

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:57:58 UTC No. 16257805

>>16256873
It's almost as if they don't worship natural selection and instead view it as a principle of the world to be manipulated like any other.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:15:35 UTC No. 16257826

>>16257796
I agree, people are flapping their jaws too much

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:08:29 UTC No. 16257844

Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who died for your sins on a cross , then God rose from the dead three days later. So that you may receive the free gift of eternal life, when you ask Him to forgive you. If you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord. You will receive this free gift. He also promises to heal your body. This Is Gods Love for You!

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:56:38 UTC No. 16257948

>>16257844
>Jesus Christ is the Son of God
>>>/x/

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:58:46 UTC No. 16257949

>>16256873
>I like how they worship natural selection
>>16252902
ignorant, liar, or stupid. Which one are you?

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:23:27 UTC No. 16258468

>>16252545
Women and male retards (all foids are retards).

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:42:17 UTC No. 16258492

>>16252545
Mainstream science, journals, institutions, etc. have been taken over by humanists/naturalists. There's a lot of things science can prove, but there's even more it can't, and they're not honest about the fact that science can't prove a lot of the things they call scientific facts and treat as unquestionable and will try to get you fired if you question it or challenge it in many workplaces or universities.

And rather than engaging in any honest debate, they just slander you and try to silence you and probably call you "anti-science" for questioning science (which is how you do science).

>>16257948
He's right.

And it certainly is a paranormal thing for the living God to put on human flesh to take the punishment we deserve.

But it's also very scientific even if he didn't bring up any evidences, just look at the millions of people who can all give basically the same testimony of a transforming life (not in the way you atheists like to "transform", of course). There are countless videos, witness testimony, not only that God is but that He sent His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

You can't deny that there is a large body of witnesses who will all attest to the same thing. You can't deny that there is a large body of witnesses who were even willing to die for professing this testimony. You can't deny that's raw and real data, which is far more than what dogmatic "modern science" can account for. Some of them have even said "facts are a dime a dozen, theories are what matter", but that was because there's no real evidence for molecules-to-man evolutionary theory. The only "evidence" for that are variations within a kind, but that's not evidence for the rest of their mythological humanist/naturalist creation fairy tale. We can see and prove that we can get different breeds of dogs, but they're all still only dogs; that doesn't prove man can come from molecules which many of them came from nothing.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:44:27 UTC No. 16258498

>>16252545
Oh, and surgeons wear those surgical masks so they don't spit into open wounds. They were never used for preventing spreadable-illnesses because they don't work for it. At least, before recently they weren't, but it's just a placebo effect and reduces the amount of fresh air you breath which is unhealthy.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 18:47:14 UTC No. 16258503

>>16258492
Modern journal publishing as it is is the invention of a mossad agent and father of one of the world's most prolific pedophiles.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 22:59:48 UTC No. 16258867

>>16252545
Einsteinian relativity is jewscience

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:20:54 UTC No. 16259012

>>16252545
the long march through academia, as herbert marcuse called it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfwMpxhrCYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o63zLtnQ2wY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVZPYQS1dFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV0XSPbo1CY

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:44:16 UTC No. 16259065

>>16259012
That guy is such a conservakike shill. Just another paid grifter that refuses to name the jew.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:51:46 UTC No. 16259070

>>16258492
The flood never happened and evolution is true. The earth isn't flat

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:59:51 UTC No. 16259087

>>16259070
The flood absolutely happened. It happened 11,5000 years ago.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 01:10:39 UTC No. 16259107

>>16259087
The melting of the ice from the ice age wasn't a global flood

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 01:32:54 UTC No. 16259132

>>16259107
It wasn't global? Wow, TIL it only affected what? One continent?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 05:34:50 UTC No. 16259331

>>16259132
There wasn't enough water to cover earth. There was still lots of dry land.
Don't be disingenuous, christcuck.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 05:46:10 UTC No. 16259336

>>16259331
Oh no, it didn't cover Mt. Everest, welp back to the drawing board. Retard.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 05:47:12 UTC No. 16259338

>>16259331
Quick question btw, do you believe in the big bang? Because I don't.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:04:28 UTC No. 16259350

>>16259336
The watee from the melting ice didn't cover the vast majority of the landmass on earth

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:06:04 UTC No. 16259354

>>16258492
>He's right.
It doesn't matter. it's not on-topic
>>>/x/

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:18:32 UTC No. 16259367

>>16259132
>It wasn't global?
Deglaciations didn't induce global catastrophic floods, they were progressive events, it was progressive melting. I didn't happen suddenly, there were no global giant tidal waves, etc. What happened is that sea levels progressively rose.
Second, deglaciations obviously affected the entire planet, since the oceans span the planet, but they only affected the low-altitude areas. So as examples: the land bridge connecting Alaska and Asia submerged and is now the Bering Straight; Sudanland and the SE asia landbridges that connected all those islands were also submerged; and Doggerland also submerged.
Third, the waters didn't really recede since the last deglaciation. Those areas are still permanently submerged.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:28:38 UTC No. 16259376

>>16259367
It happened fast enough that even within a single human lifetime it would have been noticeable.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:18:59 UTC No. 16259506

>>16259065
sure, but you ain't calling him a liar

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:31:35 UTC No. 16259513

>>16252663
The randomness proposed by Darwin was actually ahead of his time. Fundamentally random quantum events during DNA sequencing produces mutations.
If God has a hand, it's during this process.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:32:47 UTC No. 16259516

>>16252847
You need to give me your opinion on Sabine's views before I call you based or cringe.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:33:48 UTC No. 16259517

>>16259516
Specifically her views on QM

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:34:23 UTC No. 16259518

>>16252545
>schizo's first paper got rejected
Time to start your own blog

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 12:45:55 UTC No. 16259675

>>16259513
While that’s true it can’t be the whole picture because there’s too much evolution to be explained by the minor perturbations in gene mutations between generations

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:02:29 UTC No. 16259693

>>16259675
I wouldn't be quick to dismiss the magnitude of the variance within a short time frame.
For example, the Chinese people (Yellow River Valley dwellers) and the Japanese people only have around 7k~50k years of separate evolution, but it was enough to produce distinctly difference characters: the subhuman Chinese and the human Japanese.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:06:41 UTC No. 16259698

>>16259675
>>16259693
Or the fact that our generation is noticeably taller than people from merely a few centuries ago. If taller genes keep being selected, that change is gonna happen fast. It only takes a couple of generations to change a population.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:36:23 UTC No. 16259757

>>16259698
Out being taller is a byproduct of more nutrition now not evolution

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:36:56 UTC No. 16259759

>>16259693
Who can even tell Chinese and Japanese people apart?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:27:30 UTC No. 16259823

>>16259759
They are spiritually distinct

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:14:07 UTC No. 16260376

>>16259376
[citation needed]

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:08:17 UTC No. 16260530

>>16259518
this topic really seems to upset you. why?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 05:33:02 UTC No. 16260719

>>16260530
>this topic really seems to upset you. why?
OP is shitting on his religion, that's why.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 02:02:13 UTC No. 16262235

>>16252545
>female in priest's garb
heresy

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 02:06:23 UTC No. 16262238

>>16252665
>noooo don't come up with your own theories goy, trust the narrative instead

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 02:07:27 UTC No. 16262239

>>16252667
kike

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 02:08:29 UTC No. 16262242

>>16252885
>ns, and eventually make novel testable predictions
What if the truth is something that cant be tested?

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:47:04 UTC No. 16263373

>>16252545
because some idiot decided to start allowing jews in to academic institutions about 150 years ago

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 13:32:50 UTC No. 16264303

>>16263373
Geneticists just invented gene therapies to cure sickle cell and soon alzheimers. Why are you saying they don't create useful technologies anymore?

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:48:28 UTC No. 16264354

>>16252663
The process is obviously not 100% random.
Every living organism must have evolved mechanisms to prime the next generation in a given direction at the time of producing sperm, eggs or gestation.
Thats how we end up with perfectly symmetric arm races like birds developing stronger beaks while prey develops stronger shells.
Of course we will never be able to fathom the internals of a complex system like this.
The era of small compact explicit equations is dead.

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:09:02 UTC No. 16265479

>>16264303
no they didn't

Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:57:42 UTC No. 16266305

>>16263373
Let’s be honest here Jews are little tricksters but they are very smart. I mean the oil refining process that turned oil into gasoline and other fuels, was created by a Jew. This moves our whole modern society.

You can’t totally discredit the Jews because of bias.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 05:55:34 UTC No. 16267278

>>16266305
they are low IQ

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:39:23 UTC No. 16268121

>>16259759
Koreans can, but I don't know how.

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 23:40:09 UTC No. 16268239

>>16252545
dogma balls

Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 23:45:11 UTC No. 16268249

>>16252545
Trolling believers out of churches was a bad idea. (nah, I'm just kidding, academia was designed this way by nothing else than the Catholic church)
And now a more thorough answer, in the second half of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqAH5mLZNk

Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 00:15:40 UTC No. 16268270

>>16268249
Good video.. never heard of him but it was short and informative. das right

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 01:28:38 UTC No. 16268315

>>16253246
Boomer humor

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 04:14:51 UTC No. 16268449

>>16253197
>Evolution is true and your ancestors were monkeys.
Mathematically impossible.

>>16253246
Global evidence of the flood, noah's ark found, sodom and gomorrah found, rock in horeb found, the real mt sinai (in arabia) found, the red sea crossing found with chariot wheels, etc.

There's more evidence supporting the Bible than the retarded evolutionistranny religion.

>>16253278
Not even close, you don't understand science or the data. You impose your religion on the data and shout mantras and silence anyone who won't capitulate to your retarded religion.

>>16253290
>but our created religion of big bang and evolution and darwin-of-the-gaps is the true religion
>trust the experts chud!

>>16253290
>Abiogenesis, not evolution, currently being worked on by scientists
And they get nowhere because the best they can do is lie about their tests and manipulate it during the test and claim that all happened on its own. You're a fool.

Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:00:01 UTC No. 16269399

>>16268449

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:04:30 UTC No. 16270367

>>16268449
>Mathematically impossible.
There are multiple mathematical proofs for evolution. You don't understand math
Ironically, the drying of mud and the heat dissipation from the biblical flood narrative IS actually physically impossible lol.

>There's more evidence supporting the Bible than the retarded evolutionistranny religion.
The bible has literally been proved false. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>Not even close, you don't understand science or the data.
They definitively prove common descent and you are the moron who doesn't understand science, math, or the data. Why do you creationists always project?

You clearly get your talking points from answers in genesis and the discovery institute. Actually read the papers yourself.

Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 06:06:41 UTC No. 16271145

>>16270367
>There are multiple mathematical proofs for evolution.
no there aren't
>The bible has literally been proved false.
no it hasn't