🧵 Are religious hallucinations universal in nature?
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:57:00 UTC No. 16252937
To those who were raised under non-Christian religions, do you get hallucinatory experiences that affirms your respective childhood religion?
>Be Agnostic raised Christian
>abstain from weed for 2 months
>Sis asks if I want a hit; cave in and feel really high
>For some reason, mind thinks “Haha wouldn’t it be funny if I had a bad panic attack?”
>Feel unbearable sense of dread and anxiety like I am being judged
>Hear 'I am jehova' in a sort of Michael bay bumblebee-like way, a mixture of different voices speaking words to make one continuous sentence
>Feel guilt for how my family has become godless
>Go to my parents room as anxiety gets worse
>Feels like consciousness is being raped and only feel the words 'god is real'
>Greenout peaks and every thought of“what if this is fake” us immediately met with a mentak slap that shouts “this is real” repeatedly over & over until I am unable to get up
>Exit high peak and suddenly feel peace
>Convinced that I am in the post-rapture, that my parents room was a disguised heaven and that my dad in the room is god
>Cry and hug him to say I am sorry for the way I lived my life. Dad is nervous
>Come to realize dad isn't god and feel like my family is about to die in a nuclear fire within minutes and the only thing that could save us is to physically touch everyone else in the house or they are all going to die and go to hell
>Dad holds me down when I try to force my way to my showering mom to get her to touch my hand
>Mind permeates 'you will never know if this was real or not'
>Mind is fuzzy and go to bed
I am shaken and unsure if the experience is genuine or purely psychological, but I want to approach this rationally
Any of you non christian-raised atheist anons experienced similar hallucinations that affirmed your religion? My immediate reaction to my experience was fear & dread, but I could also see it being just my brain working off my childhood fears of hell in the same way an abused woman might relive her rape
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:01:44 UTC No. 16252949
Any form of hallucination is psychosis.
What youve experineced was a drug induced psychosis.
Anyone supernatural event is psychotic in nature.
Stop smoking that shit, clearly is bad for your brain.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:13:11 UTC No. 16252979
>>16252949
>Stop smoking that shit, clearly is bad for your brain
I’m already a month sober after months of semi-daily use
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:27:52 UTC No. 16253006
>>16252937
religions (with divinity or not) are the ultimate cope against existential dread
It's genetic.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 17:38:38 UTC No. 16253028
>>16252937
You should definitely stay far away from cannabis or other drugs. Also, make an appointment with your doctor as soon as possible - what you experienced is a strong hint that you may have latent schizophrenia. I'm not joking here; I know two people that experienced psychotic states under the influence of cannabis. Later, they developed schizophrenia, although they didn't smoke anymore. Please take care of yourself, anon!
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:02:36 UTC No. 16253091
>>16252937
>do you get hallucinatory experiences that affirms your respective childhood religion?
no, never.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:08:25 UTC No. 16253099
>>16252937
>Any of you non christian-raised atheist anons experienced similar hallucinations that affirmed your religion?
>atheists
>that affirmed your religion
kek
I'm an agnostic atheist and I had a terrible shroom trip once. At a point, whenever I closed my eyes, I was a soul, an entity, in a lava lake, extremely hot, fluid, an glowing white-yellow lava, so hot it was liquid, not thick life the creeping lava flows you see sometimes. I was surrounded by lava deamons in that lava as well, and they were ripping me apart, shredding me, continuously, it was horribly real and absolutely terrifying.
I'm still an atheist, still agnostic, still have an interesting story to tell people now.
I hope you enjoyed it too.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:01:10 UTC No. 16253192
>>16253099
What was your religious upbringing?
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:07:03 UTC No. 16253541
>>16253028
>You should definitely stay far away from cannabis or other drugs
Sad but true
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:55:34 UTC No. 16253704
>>16252937
Hallucinations are universal because humans are fallible.
Our brains are basically creating simulations of the world by taking in information from our senses. Fault can lie in inaccurate senses, incomplete senses, dilution of sense processing in brain by adding in another elements like emotions/last expectations/general lazy heuristics that either blur when focusing create artifacts when trying to look at large picture/doing the same thing with recalling memories/creating memories/merging memories
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:45:38 UTC No. 16253896
>>16253192
>What was your religious upbringing?
none. but I was an adult grown man by the time I had that experience, much in my life I had come across already
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:58:52 UTC No. 16253923
>>16252937
imagine DMT... uff, I'm not even sure if I should ever try it. People claim telepathy, even:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHL
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:15:48 UTC No. 16253963
Yes yahweh's ghost visits me and tells me to stop looking for dark matter
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:42:35 UTC No. 16254010
>>16253923
Im not touching any of that shit
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 12:26:46 UTC No. 16254638
>>16254010
>Im not touching any of that shit
hehe, talk about an experience!
It seems that Incilius alvarius's poison's entheogens are even stronger.
It really makes you wonder about "reality".
For all those reasons, I'm an agnostic solipsist.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 14:52:00 UTC No. 16254826
>>16253896
Were you ever fearful of a religion and hell being true?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:00:02 UTC No. 16254836
>>16252937
>do drugs
>have a bad trip
not sure what you were expecting
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:28:08 UTC No. 16254890
>>16253923
>>16254010
DMT is great. 10 minutes of hyperspace nonlinear reality, then back to feeling completely normal again. I once took a breakthrough hit of DMT when I was legless drunk, and when I came back down, I felt completely sober. Obviously the alcohol was still in my system, but something about the trip seemed to negate it's effects on my mind.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:13:13 UTC No. 16254924
>>16252937
When I experienced a religious revelation in my late teens early 20s, after being raised catholic and having gone militantly atheist for several years, the nature of the revelation was very detached from Christianity. It was panendeistic and panpsychic in nature, and I had never read anything about such concepts prior to this.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 19:18:19 UTC No. 16255178
>>16254826
>Were you ever fearful of a religion and hell being true?
>fearful
No, but once can never avoid hearing about myth.