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Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:51:17 UTC No. 16253800
>spends years defending science
>ackshually biology doesn't matter there is no difference between men's and women's strengths let transwomen play in women's sports
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:13:41 UTC No. 16253834
>>16253800
>there is no difference between men's and women's strengths
if they do hormonal therapy long enough, is there?
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:14:15 UTC No. 16253835
He's black you know.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:43:07 UTC No. 16253893
>>16253834
yes.
compare a steer to a cow.
shit idk maybe just compare troons to healthy individuals.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:05:16 UTC No. 16253937
NO DAS RONG! IF YALL KISS A MIRROR ITS ONLY ON THE MOUF
YOU CANT KISS ANY OTHER PART OF YALL BODEH IN DA MIRROR
WE MADE O STARS AND SHIET
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:16:33 UTC No. 16253964
>>16253834
Absolutely. I meet a very athletic troon in real life once. He was as tall as me and had huge fake tits. Could beat my ass without an issue. This person worked out 6 days a week and was built like a dude with fake tits. Also bone density and how the skeleton is different between men and women plays a huge part and hormones can't ever change that. Like in swimming a biological man's wide shoulders and much larger feet make it impossible for a female skeleton to compete. I'm 5'10" tall and have size 12 feet and they are wide. Like flippers. A woman with feet half my size can't win a race against me if I'm in shape.
Here I've made you a picture. On the left is troon swimmer Lia Thomas(LEFT), born a male and went through male puberty. Notice the shoulders. On the right I've pasted in a photo of SEVEN time GOLD MEDAL Olympic swimmer Kathleen Ledecky, born a woman. Notice the shoulders. She's JACKED for sure, killer arms. I dated on of the fastest swimmers in the state of FL while we were both in high school. She wasn't that jacked but got a college scholarship to swim and by her Junior year had those swimmer arms. Now imagine how much larger and wider Lia's feet are than Kathleens!
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:44:42 UTC No. 16254013
>>16253834
Maybe if they do it since just before puberty. But probably not. There's more to sex than a few hormone levels.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:45:13 UTC No. 16254015
>>16254013
>I got my nots ass-backwards
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:27:10 UTC No. 16254375
>>16253800
>caring what tv celebrities say
you are the lowest common denominator
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 03:29:43 UTC No. 16255975
>>16253800
there are also advantages based on your racial background, does this mean we should also seperate sport by race? when society says that mtf trannies are female then they should accept them in woman sport. sure a trans background can be an advantage but so can be a racial background.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 03:43:10 UTC No. 16255993
>>16253800
He's just another Mason/Luciferian people. Anyone constantly in the public eye, high chance they either are one or are being blackmailed (ba dum tiss) by them.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:09:34 UTC No. 16256017
>>16255993
This is true
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:54:32 UTC No. 16256049
>>16253800
>t. salty biologist
Biology has never mattered. None of the soft sciences ever have.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 04:57:42 UTC No. 16256051
Why do women's sports exist in the first place? Just let them compete against men and the problem disappears.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:04:33 UTC No. 16256057
>>16253893
>compare a steer to a cow.
>Steer: a young male of the cattle family that has had its sex organs removed.
A steer is not injected/given female hormones, so that's not what I asked:
>if humans do hormonal therapy for long enough, is there a difference between males' and females' strengths?
So, again, clearly worded: if humans do hormonal therapy for long enough, is there a difference between males' and females' strengths?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:09:29 UTC No. 16256059
>>16254013
>Maybe if they do it since just before puberty. But probably not.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
Physically speaking, prepubescent humans seem, and seemed to me then, to be equivalently strong between the two sexes.
>There's more to sex than a few hormone levels.
Let's stick to the OP's topic though: muscular strength
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:16:53 UTC No. 16256068
>>16256057
Is there any study that suggests otherwise?
The only studies I know about confirm that males are on average stronger than females, so to assume that'd stop being the case is the claim that must be supported.
The null hypothesis is that they remain stronger.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:22:06 UTC No. 16256190
>>16256059
I am talking about muscular strength. I was implying that there are sexual differences other than simple hormone levels that can affect muscular strength.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:34:53 UTC No. 16256213
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:35:19 UTC No. 16256275
>>16256213
I didn't argue for that. Do you have an answer or not?
>>16256057
>>16256059
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:39:12 UTC No. 16256277
>>16256068
>Is there any study that suggests otherwise?
I don't know, it's not my area of research, I was hoping someone versed in this topic's research could help us.
>The only studies I know about confirm that males are on average stronger than females
Prepubescent? That's the crux of my question, before sexual hormones kick in.
>>16256190
>there are sexual differences other than simple hormone levels that can affect muscular strength
same question: Prepubescent? That's the crux of my question, before sexual hormones kick in.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:53:48 UTC No. 16256285
>>16253800
Guillotine every single pop-"scientist"
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:55:35 UTC No. 16256905
>>16253835
So what
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:01:02 UTC No. 16256912
>>16253800
I support trans women in women's sports because sex segregation in the name of making women delude themselves by way of relative performance is dumb.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:04:55 UTC No. 16256917
>>16253800
>sexist clown
He should apologize to Sailor Pluto
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:09:49 UTC No. 16256931
>>16255597
We have go back…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCR
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:35:06 UTC No. 16256991
>>16256277
You chanced pour question, the original one was duration and now you're asking about time started.
Do you concede that you have no way to back up your original assertion?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:44:47 UTC No. 16257019
>>16256931
the words got redefined, big deal.
Move along, nothing to see.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:51:01 UTC No. 16257037
>>16256991
Right, so what I'm trying to ascertain is: if someone has a gender change surgery before the onset of puberty, and is subsequently given sexual hormones, does their body change according to the hormones given such that there is no different in strength between a person of the same gender, but different sex?
In that case, Neil would be correct.
In the alternate case of someone actually having gone, or going through, puberty, and then going through the surgery + hormonal treatment, I understand it might be too late, perhaps permanent changes might have already taken place. But one thing at a time. I'm curious about the former.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:00:29 UTC No. 16257810
>>16253800
Troons are mentally ill attention-seeking lunatics and changing your gender is of course impossible, but I unironically support troons forcing themselves into female spaces to spite the leftist women who have constantly made excuses for other undesirable elements of society under the guise of tolerance.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:25:52 UTC No. 16259027
>>16257810
This, also mentally ill people sterilizing themselves is another virtue of theirs
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:27:40 UTC No. 16259030
>>16257810
Is it a good or bad thing when your political enemy sterilizes itself?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:36:42 UTC No. 16259052
>>16256905
If people start judging men pretending to be women honestly, they soon start judging blacks pretending to be scientists honestly. EG: Those black women who got in trouble at the Ivy Leagues for plagiarism but only after they spoke out against Israel. Tyson can't say there's truth to biological sex and being male gives one a great advantage in physical tasks or soon people will start looking at how he got his position as Black Science Man and discover some humiliating things about him.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:37:54 UTC No. 16259522
>>16253800
So someone pretending to be a scientist support dudes pretending to be women?
Really makes you think.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:11:56 UTC No. 16259573
>>16255975
> does this mean we should also seperate sport by race?
Yes please. Let whites compete in shooting and blacks in running.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:25:09 UTC No. 16259589
>>16257802
Black woman
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 12:57:10 UTC No. 16259685
>>16259052
>pretending
>only white people can be scientists
go away pol nigger
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:29:27 UTC No. 16259742
>>16259685
Almost every black professor I ever had was less competent than their white and asian peers.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 13:49:16 UTC No. 16259780
>>16259742
If you like each other so much, go fuck each other and make a fleet of hapa kids already and fuck off
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:56:59 UTC No. 16259866
>>16253800
I love how biological sex has the most obvious ontological status, but these dorks who would in every other situation guilt trip people into “trusting the science(tm)” engage in semantic sophistry and pay attention to non-issues to justify it. Also, if gender and sex are different, with gender being an arbitrary social construct, why are you trying to reinforce your gender identity by appealing and emulating female traits? Another double standard is how if you’re religious, conservative, or whatever, it’s the result of fallible neurology, mental illness, cognitive dissonance, and bias, but if you’re dysphoric then all of a sudden it’s valid and a borderline metaphysical/ psychological essentialism is true.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:25:05 UTC No. 16259902
>>16253834
Prevalence of testosterone receptors matter more than the amount of testosterone.
This is why low testosterone men are still men because they have enough receptors to be manly with just picograms of testosterone
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:09:17 UTC No. 16260368
>>16257037
>if someone has a gender change surgery before the onset of puberty, and is subsequently given sexual hormones, does their body change according to the hormones given such that there is no different in strength between a person of the same gender, but different sex?
No takers?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 04:26:26 UTC No. 16260659
>>16259685
the n word is racist
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 05:20:15 UTC No. 16260709
>>16256057
>If we just pretend long enough, women can become men and vice-versa.
Nope.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 01:58:08 UTC No. 16262230
>>16260709
while that is blatantly true, its still never going to convince someone who is completely disconnected from reality. thats the nature of insanity.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:42:16 UTC No. 16263366
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 21:56:41 UTC No. 16263388
Genuinely how did it get this bad? Is mass hysteria a normal part of the human social condition?
I found a snake under a rock today and I took a brick and forcefully smashed the snake's skull into a red paste.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:02:20 UTC No. 16263402
>>16263388
It's called manufacturing consent. And yes, it's pretty much mass hypnosis.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:36:55 UTC No. 16263443
>>16253834
Muscle insertions, limb length, hip shape and other stuff that can't be changed by hormones already play a huge role in men being physically better in average than the average women.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 01:02:37 UTC No. 16263589
>>16260368
Harrison Bergeron syndrome
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 01:09:48 UTC No. 16263596
>>16253800
>defending science
The dumb big bang theory, and the dumb life from nonlife abiogenesis fairy tale, and the dumb evolution creation myth, and the blind faith millions of years assertions are not science.
All of those lies have already been refuted by Christian scientists, and Christians consider lying a sin worthy of hell and death; meanwhile atheist scientists can't even tell you what is a woman and they defend toxic cross-sex hormones for kids and surgical mutilation for young adults (and some for kids).
>>16263388
Read Romans 1, from verse 20 to the end of the chapter.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.or
>Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 01:53:34 UTC No. 16263630
>>16255597
Wtf? Sex is not on a spectrum. There is a clear dichotomy of male and female in the vast majority of animals. If it were a spectrum then most of us would have both sets of gonads.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 02:55:10 UTC No. 16263672
>>16263630
Stop making sense anon you will offend the masses of idiots
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 08:39:01 UTC No. 16264058
>>16253834
Mechanical
Men are generally taller and have longer limbs meaning they would have greater leverage.
And that's not even getting into the difference in muscle and ligament mass and density which HRT alone cannot change.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:21:33 UTC No. 16265135
bodhi at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:43:02 UTC No. 16265680
bodhi at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:52:31 UTC No. 16265687
bodhi at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:54:58 UTC No. 16265689
>>16263402
I personally like to refer to it as "Jewry"
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:01:03 UTC No. 16266726
>>16265135
good story, but Kurt vonnegut's brother Bernard was far more interesting and important than his sissy soience fiction sibling
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:26:41 UTC No. 16266766
>>16263388
>Genuinely how did it get this bad?
people are cattle that either don't care or bow tot the general consensus or of figures of authority. It's the perfect example why democracy will never work and was a big mistake
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:52:14 UTC No. 16266801
>>16253800
Apologize
Now
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:02:44 UTC No. 16266814
>>16253800
The King of Science has spoken. We are Valid. Cease all disagreements now, for they are henceforth Unscientific.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:06:23 UTC No. 16268027
>>16266726
Bernard Vonnegut was the closest thing to an IRL thunder god thats ever existed anywhere in recorded history
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:22:08 UTC No. 16268992
>>16253964
Kathleen’s brow bone is sus.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:49:52 UTC No. 16270024
>>16268992
look at how wide greta's shoulders are compared to 'her' hips.
'she' sure does have square jawline too
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:20:19 UTC No. 16271098
>>16270024
/lgbt/ says she is a MtF tranny
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:37:03 UTC No. 16271114
>>16253834
It's the equivalent of a woman who used to take steroids.
Steroids permanently alter hypertrophy and it never goes away.
>>16253800
Feminists get what they fucking deserve.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:49:47 UTC No. 16271128
>>16253800
Amd bill nye