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Anonymous No. 16255810

>neonicotinoids are killing le heckin bees!
deboonked
https://reason.com/2024/05/22/how-the-media-manufactured-panic-over-bees/
https://youtu.be/gIzhf9ucagk

Anonymous No. 16255878

>>16255810
Didn't it turn out that moths are far more important pollinators than bees?

Anonymous No. 16255921

>>16255810
anyone who actually goes outside and isn't a urbanite brainlet always knew it was fake

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>>16255921
What are you talking about? Nature has gone preetty much dead.

Anonymous No. 16256978

>>16255949
>t. urbanite brainlet

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>>16256978
Look almost anywhere and all the insects (and other arthropod like woodlice or crayfish) are gone. All the birds are gone. Some kinds of plants are extinct. It's often previously common species that nobody thought of monitoring. Earwigs, woodlice, common flies, etc.

Anonymous No. 16257640

>>16257626
I used to see monarch butterflys all the time as a kid. Haven't seen one in ages

Anonymous No. 16257740

>>16255810
>libertardian pundit is against any measures that may harm the profits of the megacorporations he has invested in

Anonymous No. 16258237

>>16257626
where do you live? I live in a city of 2 million people and there's birds(including many* birds of prey), cats, squirrels, groundhogs, chipmunks, foxes, coyotes on the fringes.
Insects: all kinds. I've seen at least 10 different species of bee or bee mimic. I see all sorts of butterfly, beetles, jewel wasps.

maybe you just don't go outside, OP.

Anonymous No. 16258239

>>16258237
You don't live in a city

Anonymous No. 16258268

>>16255810
OMG What a fucking moron.
1. Reason.com is a right wing libertarian shill sight that consistently lies, and takes the side of capitalism and its grift ever time. No one takes anything they publish as fact.
2. The reason bee populations in some area seem to be increasing is due to the bureaucracy of counting. Beekeepers with fewer than $1000 in sales are not required to report bee populations, but with inflation, there are now an estimated 23% more farmers with small hives that now have to report bees.
3. Wild bee counts are way down.

Take your /pol tier shit and choke on it, liar!
inb4: Just keep repeating the lie.

Anonymous No. 16258288

>>16258239
okay.

Anonymous No. 16258290

>>16258268
Is capitalism in the room with us, right now?

Anonymous No. 16259391

>>16258290
Its funny how once you scratch the surface of all of these environmental scare stories you always find people with communist political ambitions lurking underneath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnZnnkJxoC8

Anonymous No. 16259407

>>16258268
Typical communist, nothing but ignorance and stupidity come from you.

Anonymous No. 16260297

>>16259391
The global warming narrative appeals strongly to people who are prone to the narcissistic savior complex as a result of their inferiority complexes.

Anonymous No. 16260306

>>16257640
I saw at least 3 yesterday, they're not gone, but yeah there aren't nearly as many as there used to be. When they were around you saw hundreds.

Anonymous No. 16260310

>>16260297
>narcissist has inferiority complex
?????

Anonymous No. 16261702

>>16260310
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanism

Anonymous No. 16261861

>>16255878
>kill all the moths
>honey bees just pull up the slack
envrionmentalists btfo

Anonymous No. 16261868

>>16258268
>capitalism and its grift ever time.
>blames government interventions in the market capitalism
>demands more government interventions
>things get worse
Why are you statists/socialists/fascists like this? Are you retarded or do you ruin peoples lives on purpose?

Anonymous No. 16261874

>>16258268
>Wild bee counts are way down.
See >>16261861. Honey bees won't be allowed to go extinct. Honey bees continue to pollinate crops, humans carry on without crisis.

The most charitably conclusion to draw about you is that you're catastrophizing over the environment is driving you to grasp at more government intervention to deal with the perceived threat.

Anonymous No. 16261877

>>16259391
Environmentalism is just another offshoot of statism & communism: Gives an excuse to violate other peoples rights.

Anonymous No. 16261879

>>16260310
>being a cripple is praised in modern society (dysgenics + century of communist subversion)
>narcissists desire appearance of uniqueness
>"look at me, I'm a cripple!"
understand?

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>>16261877
>statism & communism
also atheism

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>>16261877
this, none of them actually care about nature, they wouldn't all live in big cities if they liked nature. all they really care about is a selfish desire to justify their own greedy power grabs

Anonymous No. 16265499

>>16255810
>how-the-media-manufactured-panic-over-bees
they do that on all sorts of other topics too
https://www.forbes.com/2010/03/10/swine-flu-world-health-organization-pandemic-opinions-contributors-henry-i-miller.html
and always with the compliance of the dishonest scientist who profit from the fear mongering

Anonymous No. 16266671

>>16265499
they manufactured the whole global warming meme too

Anonymous No. 16267831

>>16257640
how much milkweed do you have growing in your yard? i see tons of hummingbirds every day because i grow chilean glory vine, if i didn't do that i could easily leap to the conclusion that hummingbirds were going extinct

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Anonymous No. 16267886

>>16267831
or you could look at data

Stop guessing start learning No. 16267901

>>16267886
I walk by a bee hive everyday itโ€™s odd they sit on the wall of a fence itโ€™s not even a nest or the nest is inside the brink wall Iโ€™ll take a picture later. And upload it here itโ€™s the most strange nest Iโ€™ve ever seen

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Anonymous No. 16269100

>>16267886
>muh lines and words on a jpeg i saw in a replication crisis paper
that shit is all fake and gay, anyone with mspaint can make fake lines and words on a jpeg

Anonymous No. 16269165

>>16267901
>>16269100
Fuck your feelings. Data is the only thing that matters.

Anonymous No. 16269996

>>16267886
shooped fake graph
>>16269100
this is the real data, you can tell because its dubs

Anonymous No. 16271087

>>16269165
Data is always up to interpretation, see galactic rotation curves for more details on that

Anonymous No. 16271123

>>16271087
There's only one legitimate interpretation: bee populations are declining. Anecdotes about seeing bees in your yard or while you walk to work doesn't change facts.

Anonymous No. 16271135

>>16261874
>Honey bees continue to pollinate crops
>crops are the only thing that needs to be pollinated

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Anonymous No. 16273700

>>16267886
>I want to see butterflies
>NO I WILL NOT PLANT THE KIND OF FLOWERS BUTTERFLIES NEED TO SURVIVE
>oh no the world is coming to an end because I can't see butterflies even though I don't care about them enough to even slightly lift a finger to attract them to my year
>this is the end of the world
>you need to give all your money to al gore because I can't see as many butterflies as I feel entitled to seeing

Anonymous No. 16273708

>>16255810
>Everything is fine
>Just trust me bro
What a gay ass article.

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>>16273708

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16275428

>>16273700
Take your meds.

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>>16273708
if you legitimately cared about nature you wouldn't be an urbanite

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Anonymous No. 16276352

Been driving up and down the CA central valley this week, barely any bug splats on my windshield. Used to be it was so thick you couldn't see and had to use wipers in the summer. Used to need bug screens on my house windows, not anymore. Bird songs used to wake me up in the morning, now it's silent. No bugs to feed the birds. Planet is dying.

Anonymous No. 16276475

>>16273700
You should try looking up real data instead of going on unhinged diatribes.
>al gore
Why are /pol/tards so obsessed with a retired politician?

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>>16276352
>I made up this fake doomsday tale story in order to justify my cringey messiah complex

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>>16278312
They have to make up fantastical lies to justify their cringey messiah complexes because the world isn't legitimately coming to an end and never has been. Life has thrived on Earth continuously for a billion years running and it isn't about to quit, its quite tenacious that way.
Thats why the doomsday crowd has to invent lies to justify their cringey messiah complexes and why their doomsday fantasy life where they get to play savior is necessarily always going to be disconnected from reality and a glaring tipoff of deeper mental illness.

Anonymous No. 16281061

>>16279888
people with mental illnesses are necessarily low iq.
their brains are diseased and function poorly, so its inevitable that they behave stupidly.
>dumb things are dumb

Anonymous No. 16281150

bees are garden pets. no bees exist in real forest. bad garden=no bees.

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Anonymous No. 16282010

>>16281150
I stepped on a bee in my garden recently. but I pulled out the stinger very rapidly and little damage was done to me. The bee died of course.

Anonymous No. 16282023

>>16255810
This video brought to you by the manufacturers of neonicotinoids

Anonymous No. 16283163

>>16267831
>environmentalist
>growing plants
choose one
environmentalists are too busy virtue signaling on social media to do anything productive or beneficial for the environment

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Anonymous No. 16284532

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/03/29/bees-boom-colony-collapse/

>After almost two decades of relentless colony collapse coverage and years of grieving suspiciously clean windshields, we were stunned to run the numbers on the new Census of Agriculture: Americaโ€™s honeybee population has rocketed to an all-time high.

Anonymous No. 16284541

>>16255810
do you even get paid to spew pesticide industry propaganda here or are you just some hick retard?

Anonymous No. 16284544

>>16284532
the apiary bees were never the problem. wild bees were.
and America has actually been changing land use for the best in the last few years. it's the largest carbon sink in the country, too. so better land use equals better environment for bees. since they're still insects that reproduce very fast, populations can rebound quickly.

Anonymous No. 16286125

>>16284541
>ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
https://www.healthcentral.com/condition/schizophrenia/paranoid-schizophrenia

Anonymous No. 16286476

>>16255878
interesting never knew the flppy boys

Anonymous No. 16286756

>>16286476
*flappy bois were so important for polination

Anonymous No. 16286968

>>16286756
Moths are easy to overlook so they don't get much attention. Bees, besides their tendency to sting people, have long provided humans with honey so they're much higher profile and studied far more. The Science was so narrowly focused on bees that it didn't even notice the role moths play in pollination until quite recently.

Anonymous No. 16288079

>>16286968
common phenomenon in science, everyone want to work with and study the most charismatic species. thats probably the biggest reason that mycology is about 100 years or so behind zoology and botany

Anonymous No. 16289264

>>16260306
You don't bother growing the plants they feed on, thats why you never see them

Anonymous No. 16290535

>>16289264
more people need to grow milkweed for them, monsanto's chems have gotten so good at wiping out milkweed that theres a lot less of it around these days, thats why their populations are in decline.

Anonymous No. 16290639

>>16258239
I lived in London and I see plenty of animals there: various birds, cats, foxes, dogs, rats, pakis and other insects

Anonymous No. 16290641

>>16261868
>demands more government interventions
>government intervene for big capital
>things get worse
no shit

Anonymous No. 16290650

>>16276352
this is partly caused by better car aerodymics
instead of getting splattered on windshield, they are just redirected over the roof along the stream of air
if you look at front of a bus or something similar with aerodynamics of a brick, you will still see a thick layer of bug paste

Anonymous No. 16291796

>>16290535
milkweed is the only thing they eat, if you're not growing milkweed then you won't see them

Anonymous No. 16291988

>>16258268
Bees will never go extinct so long as humans enjoy honey. You are a fear mongering midwit.

Anonymous No. 16291990

>>16290641
>blames capitalism for the GOVERNMENT making LAWS
Are you aware only the government can make laws? Why are you statists so thick? Genuinely how can you blame anyone other than the government for the creation of a law? Nobody can make laws but the government? Shall I repeat it again to make it stick in your brain?

Anonymous No. 16291993

>>16291990
>what is lobbying?

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Anonymous No. 16292392

>>16255921
>>16255810
This is pure cope. Bugs in general are disappearing. You don't need muh soience to tell you that. You can clearly see that this is going on based on personal experience. Firflies are almost non-existent even in rural areas today. I used to be able to catch a dozen fireflies in a single night as a kid living on the outskirts of Washington D.C., which is one of the most densely populated urban areas in the country. Today I wouldn't even see that many fireflies over the entire summer, even in a small rural town. The firflies are disappearing.

Anyone who isn't a braindead normie can tell the environment is changing. That being said, all the woke shitlibs who pretend to care about nature are dishonest lying cucks who are just being led by the neoliberal establishment to act as mouthpieces for the totalitarian green agenda that is a long term goal of the globalists, the technocrats, and the shitlibs.

The reality is that we are destroying the environment, but the primary people responsible are not the heckin antiscience republicans like all the woke leftists and normies want you to think, but rather the soi boi urbanite bugmen who insist on building massive cities and important trillions of dollar in cheaply made consumer goods from thousands of miles across the globe so that that literal trannies in San Francisco can buy cheap dildos and cell phones that will only last 2 years.

Like all form of normie culture and politics the environmentalism debate has retards on all sides. Anyone who says the environment is perfectly healthy is a retarded neocon republican, but likewise anyone who thinks the problem is muh republicans eating red meat and driving pickups is a retarded neolib democrat. The environment is absolutely changing, and urbanite bugmen and globalization are almost entirely blame.

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Anonymous No. 16292416

>>16286125
Bruh pesticides and plastics are killing wild animals and turning people intro trannies, and normie conservatives like you will cheer that one. Do you think endocrine disruptors are le based and redpilled like that tranny Lady Maga that the Zionist repulicucks always like advertise?

Anyone who support pesticides or plastics is a retard. This isn't about muh left or muh right. Normie republicans and normie democrats both support pesticides and plastics and all the other shit that will pollute the environment and turn people into faggots, junkies, retards, autists, and trannies. Globohomo literally wants to turn us into impotent, infertile, genderless automata who only exist to consoooooom SSRIs and goyslop packaged in carcinogenic microplastics that were made SEA monkeys and jeets working in sweatshops in South/Southeast asia.

Anonymous No. 16292421

>>16291990
Paying the GOVERNMENT to make LAWS.
Do you understand that government is utterly vital for law making? Are you fucking stupid?
Only the GOVERNMENT can MAKE LAWS.
Do you understand? A company cannot make laws. Only the government can.

Anonymous No. 16293040

>>16292416
>pesticides
common scare word. there are lots of substances that are used to control insects, some are toxic, some are not. i use diatomaceous earth and micronized sulphur on my own garden and have no misgivings about eating produce treated with them

Anonymous No. 16293055

>>16255878
I don't know if you have noticed but moth populations have been absolutely fucking annihilated. Older people, shit not even that old, remember driving at night through absolute snowstorms of moths, now I barely ever even clean my windshield.

Anonymous No. 16293060

>>16293040
Dude, the people that are spraying 999999999 hectares of the planet from fucking aeroplanes and giant trucks are using shit that is horribly poisonous and its not like they are even just spraying once. Average farm gets multiple rounds of fungicides, herbicides and insecticidesevery year. Your fucking four square metre vegetable garden does not matter.

Anonymous No. 16293317

>>16292416
left pic is nice but it has an interracial couple... sad!

Anonymous No. 16293949

>>16293060
cope & seethe
Buy your own farm and you'll get to run it how you want.

Anonymous No. 16293966

>>16293040
How many tards in your care did you rape while typing that worthless post?

Anonymous No. 16295131

>>16293060
>I have never worked on a farm and I have never studied agriculture and I have never grown a plant in my life, thats why I'm an expert on the topic

Anonymous No. 16295156

>>16257640
I used to see all sorts of butterflies as well as other flying bugs all over the place and now there is probably 1/10 the bug volume. Except for mosquitos, ticks, chiggers, etc. Those fuckers are still out in full force.

Anonymous No. 16296556

>>16295131
why are all urbanites like that?

Anonymous No. 16297935

>>16296556
High population density attracts people with narcissistic personalities because the high population density makes attention seeking that much easier